DUST Search - [Request] Please extend the event by 2 hours or make the event go the whole day

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Naturi Riclenore wrote:

I will say though I am glad they at least extended the hours to give some America players a chance to participate, but there has to be a better way. I hear automation works well Roll

You should have been happy to have seen this part of CCP Eterne's post then:

CCP Eterne wrote:

we're working on getting a fix for one of our biggest hurdles toward making them much longer events.

This says that, in future (Hopefully more soon than SOONGäó) they'll be able to run events over longer periods of time than they're currently able to manage.

And I have to ask, even as you're complaining about this, you're sounding very reasonable and well-thought-out in your complaints. Have you backed people up who are getting shouted down by other Americans saying "deal with it" when another region is being screwed over? Because you sound like the kind of person who would actually be supportive of that kind of complaint even when it's not you making it.

And if you HAVE been one of the "deal with it" people in the past, has this situation made you feel guilty about that attitude?

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Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 173	Posted - 2013.03.07 14:12:00 - [31] - Quote GM Vegas wrote: Cleared the thread of silly comments. Please refrain from having a go at each other on the forum. Thanks. Just to clarify some things here as well. Deciding on extending the Event has nothing to do with picking any region as favorite or anything like that, it is simply to try to accommodate for the player base if we can (And in this case, as mentioned by CCP Eterne, we can!). You don't ask, you don't get. A bigger window will allow more players to participate. Why not just be happy about it? And why do we need someone present at CCP during the Event? Well considering the 'Let's all go home and hope the event will run itself fine. If something goes wrong... well who cares?' approach isn't an option here. Making sure everything goes as planned and you guys enjoy it is! I guess some people are just hard to please! See you in battle! Don't let them get to ya Vegas. There are always some that want more etc. no matter what you do Cheers from a very happy Duster for all ye lot are doing.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 309	Posted - 2013.03.07 14:14:00 - [32] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Naturi Riclenore wrote: I will say though I am glad they at least extended the hours to give some America players a chance to participate, but there has to be a better way. I hear automation works well You should have been happy to have seen this part of CCP Eterne's post then: CCP Eterne wrote: we're working on getting a fix for one of our biggest hurdles toward making them much longer events. This says that, in future (Hopefully more soon than SOONGäó) they'll be able to run events over longer periods of time than they're currently able to manage. And I have to ask, even as you're complaining about this, you're sounding very reasonable and well-thought-out in your complaints. Have you backed people up who are getting shouted down by other Americans saying "deal with it" when another region is being screwed over? Because you sound like the kind of person who would actually be supportive of that kind of complaint even when it's not you making it. And if you HAVE been one of the "deal with it" people in the past, has this situation made you feel guilty about that attitude? Of course i dont feel guilty about it I'm an american and the global axis of the Earth is set so that it literally revolves around our country . Having read the GM post i understand the nature of keeping people in office to tackle any issues that arise from the event thats is a great thing to do and glad they do it. I was going to suggest they run these types of events for 24-48 hours especially since its just a participation award. But given what the GM said i understand why they can't do that. Might I ask is it possible for someone from CCP Shanhai to also monitor the event on their end? Or do you guys have a chinese wall around these types of things. (It's not a pun, its an actual phrase).
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 210	Posted - 2013.03.07 14:15:00 - [33] - Quote Also, what some people aren't understanding, is that there are CCP employees that are conducting activities as pilots in Eve for the corresponding events happening in space over our heads. Often our actions require the help of extraction teams, or local police forces etc. Typically this means setting up in a staging system a few systems from where the conflict is. Safely getting to the battle area, conducting the role play, then retreating/attacking as the event unfolds. Many players in Eve get involved in the event as well, and game mechanics also could define how things unfold as friendly logisitics may come in to help repair the event team, or extremely quick frigates could weapons jam and warp jam the event team in order to keep them from achieving their objectives. Here is a good event summary from last month's Mordu's Legion conflict.
Dr Stabwounds Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 8	Posted - 2013.03.07 14:18:00 - [34] - Quote GM Vegas wrote: Cleared the thread of silly comments. Please refrain from having a go at each other on the forum. Thanks. Just to clarify some things here as well. Deciding on extending the Event has nothing to do with picking any region as favorite or anything like that, it is simply to try to accommodate for the player base if we can (And in this case, as mentioned by CCP Eterne, we can!). You don't ask, you don't get. A bigger window will allow more players to participate. Why not just be happy about it? And why do we need someone present at CCP during the Event? Well considering the 'Let's all go home and hope the event will run itself fine. If something goes wrong... well who cares?' approach isn't an option here. Making sure everything goes as planned and you guys enjoy it is! I guess some people are just hard to please! See you in battle! I greatly appreciate that someone is willing to put in the extra effort/time to accommodate more of the user base (myself included). This extra 2 hrs should give me time to get a game or two in during the window. TY Vegas and CCP Extra hours
Soraya Xel Gentlemen's Foreign Legion Gentlemen's Agreement 16	Posted - 2013.03.07 14:50:00 - [35] - Quote Two hour extension = Basically just a tease. "Yeah, we extended it, but you still won't get home from work in time, so screw you."
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 219	Posted - 2013.03.07 15:02:00 - [36] - Quote Dear GMs Thank you for extending the event by two hours.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 175	Posted - 2013.03.07 15:04:00 - [37] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Two hour extension = Basically just a tease. "Yeah, we extended it, but you still won't get home from work in time, so screw you." Come on! If you read any of Eterne's posts you'd know that there is only so much they can do. And they're doing extra. Once they have systems implemented properly everyone will be able to join in. Until then how about you show some kind of appreciation for what is here at the moment. I'm all on for good feedback, positive or negative, all long as it's constructive. Nobody is forcing anyone to play so if you're not happy with the present setup, leave and come back later when it's up to your standards. A bit of common courtesy goes a long way.
stormtroopin Cygnus Tactical Operations 52	Posted - 2013.03.07 15:16:00 - [38] - Quote GM Vegas wrote: And why do we need someone present at CCP during the Event? Well considering the 'Let's all go home and hope the event will run itself fine. If something goes wrong... well who cares?' approach isn't an option here. Making sure everything goes as planned and you guys enjoy it is! I guess some people are just hard to please! See you in battle! CCP should know better than anyone you can't please all of this community. That said, there are a few who appreciate the hard work you guys do for us. I certainly wouldn't want to stay at work later than I have to. Thanks for making this event available to us now! Much appreciated.
Stinker Butt UnReaL. 110	Posted - 2013.03.07 15:52:00 - [39] - Quote GM Vegas wrote: Cleared the thread of silly comments. Please refrain from having a go at each other on the forum. Thanks. Just to clarify some things here as well. Deciding on extending the Event has nothing to do with picking any region as favorite or anything like that, it is simply to try to accommodate for the player base if we can (And in this case, as mentioned by CCP Eterne, we can!). You don't ask, you don't get. A bigger window will allow more players to participate. Why not just be happy about it? And why do we need someone present at CCP during the Event? Well considering the 'Let's all go home and hope the event will run itself fine. If something goes wrong... well who cares?' approach isn't an option here. Making sure everything goes as planned and you guys enjoy it is! I guess some people are just hard to please! See you in battle! I see that my post was deleted. So for my part, you have my apologies. And thank you again.
Thrawn01 Aldeland Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 15	Posted - 2013.03.07 16:17:00 - [40] - Quote Thank you CCP for working to accommodate. much appreciated. *** especially since I hadn't decided on a good excuse for ditching work a half hour early to catch the tail end of the event. :-P

Naturi Riclenore BetaMax. 125	Posted - 2013.03.07 16:25:00 - [41] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: And I have to ask, even as you're complaining about this, you're sounding very reasonable and well-thought-out in your complaints. Have you backed people up who are getting shouted down by other Americans saying "deal with it" when another region is being screwed over? Because you sound like the kind of person who would actually be supportive of that kind of complaint even when it's not you making it. And if you HAVE been one of the "deal with it" people in the past, has this situation made you feel guilty about that attitude? I have backed others and in other games as well. I feel if you have a worldwide game, you need to make sure events are run at times when people in all time zones can play. Whether it be they are run for 24 hours (or longer) or separate events for different regions, you have to make sure to try and cater to those timezones. It's different than say I am in America, and I decided to play on an EU server instead of my own America server. And I / we (at least most of us) understand that not all events can happen at times we in particularly agree with. It just happens that way sometimes. But when you start to see a pattern emerge, you begin to wonder. All we are asking is to have events that we can participate in at a decent time. And as mentioned, even with the extension, West Coast is still screwed. Like I said, we appreciate someone from CCP is willing to stay so the event could be extended, but there has got to be a better way to manage these events.
Concept Proof HavoK Core 2	Posted - 2013.03.07 16:43:00 - [42] - Quote Thank you CCP! I would like to propose the following for a potential solution. CCP has offices in Iceland, China, and in the USA. This provides a nearly 24 hour coverage of someone within the organization being at work during their normal hours of operation. We also know that the matches need to be created manually at the moment. Why not have someone in one of the offices remote desktop into the system that the matches are being created on? Thanks again, the extension has been a huge help!
Ademis Kalel WarRavens 1	Posted - 2013.03.07 18:19:00 - [43] - Quote Im sure going to give it a try to make the time frame. Disgruntled at GMT time.
Thumb Green Starship Troppers 32	Posted - 2013.03.07 19:39:00 - [44] - Quote GM Vegas wrote: Making sure everything goes as planned and you guys enjoy it is! I guess some people are just hard to please! Kind of hard to enjoy it if you can't participate in it. Yeah you extended the time frame and that's great for some people but it still leaves a lot of people out. You're right though, it is necessary to have someone there to make sure it goes according to plan; I didn't think of mishaps, fortunately Concept Proof has provided us with a solution. Concept Proof wrote: I would like to propose the following for a potential solution. CCP has offices in Iceland, China, and in the USA. This provides a nearly 24 hour coverage of someone within the organization being at work during their normal hours of operation. You're going to have to do this eventually if you don't want the majority of the western hemisphere raging at you every time you hold an event, especially one that gives away stuff.
Drake435 SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 21	Posted - 2013.03.09 22:49:00 - [45] - Quote WOW! I truly am thankful that CCP granted my request even though I couldn't make the event (stupid tennis match took longer than expected) but still glad that some other people were satisfied .
Bald Crusader Two Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2013.03.09 23:05:00 - [46] - Quote GM Vegas wrote: Deciding on extending the Event has nothing to do with picking any region as favorite or anything like that, it is simply to try to accommodate for the player base if we can (And in this case, as mentioned by CCP Eterne, we can!). You don't ask, you don't get. A bigger window will allow more players to participate. Why not just be happy about it? And why do we need someone present at CCP during the Event? Well considering the 'Let's all go home and hope the event will run itself fine. If something goes wrong... well who cares?' approach isn't an option here. Making sure everything goes as planned and you guys enjoy it is! So in the spirit of this new found egalitarianism will we be seeing a roll in TZs for the EVE AT next year to spread the CCP word to new regions in prime time? All it would need would be a bit of that planning you talked about from this global company. Didn't think so.


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