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Covert Clay
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.03.03 05:41:00 -
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I heard that they will reset everything for the full game release. Is this true? |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.03.03 05:42:00 -
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nope. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.03.03 05:42:00 -
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i heard no |
Washlee
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.03.03 05:42:00 -
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Nope no more planned resets. |
FrozenChaos
Brotherhood ofthe Commissioned
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Posted - 2013.03.03 05:45:00 -
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Covert Clay wrote:I heard that they will reset everything for the full game release. Is this true? where are people hearing this? |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.03.03 05:47:00 -
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No https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=461847#post461847
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3092
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Posted - 2013.03.03 05:49:00 -
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FrozenChaos wrote:Covert Clay wrote:I heard that they will reset everything for the full game release. Is this true? where are people hearing this? From CCP themselves. They posted it on the forums before. They also posted it here http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/01/22/dust-514s-open-beta-goes-live-today/ "There will be no more character wipes or inventory resets" |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
572
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Posted - 2013.03.03 05:51:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:
So don't mess up in your skills, everything counts. |
Bogon Vdemotch
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.03 07:08:00 -
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No skill reset an the fact that the game has been released to 100% of potential customers. Clearly this game is sill in beta. /s |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.03 07:39:00 -
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Thread saved for future reference. |
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Don Von Hulio
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.03.03 07:55:00 -
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I don't know why, but for some reason i think the answer is "no". |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.03.03 08:12:00 -
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Bogon Vdemotch wrote:No skill reset an the fact that the game has been released to 100% of potential customers. Clearly this game is sill in beta. /s Clearly your brain's in beta. |
TERMINALANCE
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.03 08:31:00 -
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stop spreading misinformation |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.03.03 08:38:00 -
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No, even the latest video with them live streaming with ign, he says no more wipes.
What is it with you people... |
Bald Crusader Two
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.03 08:48:00 -
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Covert Clay wrote:I heard that they will reset everything for the full game release. Is this true? You heard incorrectly.
CCP have not said that it will happen and they certainly do not want it to happen.
What they have not done is completely rule it out. Every statement on the matter has a broad catch all caveat that means if they really thought it was in the best interests of the game to do some kind of a reset they could and they would. They would have to have really screwed the pooch to make that a reality. However, I lived through Incarna, so you can never rule anything out.
However, there are more likely scenarios. CCP have been completely silent on new player advantages or any levelling of the playing field once the game is released.
This could include things like higher SP at birth or increased earn rate until a player hits x SP.
We are already seeing a skill gap developing and there are threads on how pub stomping of new players is more common place.
Questions also remain on the effectiveness of matchmaking to resolve this - more so with this input peripheral nonsense.
So basically I'd be more concerned about others gain than your loss. |
Syther Shadows
CowTek
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Posted - 2013.03.03 08:50:00 -
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if i got 1mill isk every time one of these threads pop up |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.03.03 11:09:00 -
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Bald Crusader Two wrote:Covert Clay wrote:I heard that they will reset everything for the full game release. Is this true? You heard incorrectly. CCP have not said that it will happen and they certainly do not want it to happen. What they have not done is completely rule it out. Every statement on the matter has a broad catch all caveat that means if they really thought it was in the best interests of the game to do some kind of a reset they could and they would. They would have to have really screwed the pooch to make that a reality. However, I lived through Incarna, so you can never rule anything out. However, there are more likely scenarios. CCP have been completely silent on new player advantages or any levelling of the playing field once the game is released. This could include things like higher SP at birth or increased earn rate until a player hits x SP. We are already seeing a skill gap developing and there are threads on how pub stomping of new players is more common place. Questions also remain on the effectiveness of matchmaking to resolve this - more so with this input peripheral nonsense. So basically I'd be more concerned about others gain than your loss. I see where you're coming from, but I think it's more the fact that CCP recently had a nasty incident with microtransactions and some memo (that was probably faked, anyway) so they probably aren't too big on committing to anything right now.
I'm paraphrasing but the language they used was that there would be no more wipes "unless something catastrophic happens." Seems pretty clear they have no desire to do another wipe unless someone manages to steal all the ISK and Assets from every player in the game and sets everyone's PS3 to explode if they run anything other than a militia heavy suit with nova knives.
All just speculation or course but I feel very confident that there in fact will not be another wipe. |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.03 11:15:00 -
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If they were smart they would, everything has changed. Even AUR prices and soon all of the dropsuit skills with completely change. They should at least let us retain 3-4 million sp. But I was under the impression that more future features were going to start coming out faster since they bragged about the streaming content Bullshit.
Remember that?
Now it'll take us less time to deliever stuff to you, like these new weapons! We won't need a content patch we'll be able to stream it in so expect it soon! and we don't mean soontm
But we've gotten no content for such a long time I didn't think people were going to be at 10 million sp before serious features we're released. We are going to start off at release mowing down drones with our sp. Where is the fun in leveling up and progressing through a finished game with 4 races of suits to choose from.
When this game is released with the other tanks and dropsuits, no one is ging to be able to use any of them at 1st. Becuase we are matched by sp and skill. So how can I use the minmatar scout if everyone at my sp and skill level in running around in prototype dropsuits in 4 months?
I just, thought people would be hitting 2 million sp as the next patch hit. At this rate release will see players allready at 20 million sp. Is that ok? I mean I guess it might be :/ |
Deskalkulos Ildigan
CrimeWave Syndicate
115
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Posted - 2013.03.03 11:42:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:if i got 1mill isk every time one of these threads pop up
Let me guess: "I would have 1 isk, since the other 999.999 isk would've been spent for gear etc."?
I have to agree with Bald Crusader Two - CCP doesn't plan it, but they can't deny the possibility (small as it is) that there might be a reset, if they happen to screw up majorly. |
Templis Offline
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.03.03 11:51:00 -
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What worries me is that there is a lot of people spending aurum very quickly who still believe that there will be a retail wipe as "thats the norm" when it comes and ccp dont do a retail wipe i can see there being a lot of hassle about 'lost' aurum resulting in a retail wipe being done. normally its nothing to worry about with free ingame money but when it comes to it that some idiot has spent $30 on protosuits because he thought he would have it all back come release then ccp start to get a lot of grief. Personally i was cautious about spending my aurum till i had an official word back and i'd hate to see a wipe now i just hit 3.2mill sps lol i just cant help shake that annoying feeling that in the end it will happen |
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.03.03 11:59:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
So don't mess up in your skills, everything counts.
Actually, I think CCP Eterne once hinted that the closest we might come to a tests will be a skills reset, meaning that we keep all our SP but will have to reallocate them. This will most likely happen anytime new skills are introduced.
EDIT: Here is the post:
CCP Eterne wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:no. there will be no SP resets what-so-ever Just a note, we've said we won't reset skill points to 0 (without a HUGE GIANT CURRENTLY-UNFATHOMABLE reason). There might still conceivably be a time where we reset skill point allocation. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.03 14:27:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:
What I think the poster meant was, "Where are people hearing that there will be a reset?"
Because every week there is some thread about the full game release character reset. No matter how many times CCP syas it will not happen. People still show up and ask:
"So when are we gonna get a character reset? Will there be a stat reset when the game launches?" |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.03 15:22:00 -
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We ARE in release. Sorry to burst your bubble. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.03.03 16:29:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:We ARE in release. Sorry to burst your bubble.
We ARE NOT in release. Bubble restored. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
911
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Posted - 2013.03.03 16:59:00 -
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FrozenChaos wrote:Covert Clay wrote:I heard that they will reset everything for the full game release. Is this true? where are people hearing this?
Why we still havent had this stickied..... |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.03 17:57:00 -
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Covert Clay wrote:I heard that they will reset everything for the full game release. Is this true?
I would like to know where or who provided you such information. As other players have now replied to you, I don't need to extend my comment.
Thanks. |
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Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
421
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Posted - 2013.03.03 17:59:00 -
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Wish people could learn to understand this... No more resets! |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.03 18:31:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
So don't mess up in your skills, everything counts.
Actually, I think CCP Eterne once hinted that the closest we might come to a tests will be a skills reset, meaning that we keep all our SP but will have to reallocate them. This will most likely happen anytime new skills are introduced. EDIT: Here is the post: CCP Eterne wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:no. there will be no SP resets what-so-ever Just a note, we've said we won't reset skill points to 0 (without a HUGE GIANT CURRENTLY-UNFATHOMABLE reason). There might still conceivably be a time where we reset skill point allocation.
There will have to be a major change to the skill books for this to happen. A likely possibility of this happening is like how CCP removed the 'Learning' skill books from Eve Online because they were detrimental to the progression of Eve players who happen to be 14-day trial as they were forced to waste a significant amount of time training up unnecessary skills before even getting started with training up skills for ships. This caused many trial users to get discouraged from continuing to play and also broke the level of immersion for new players.
As a result, those learning skills were removed and ultimately a new "annual attribute reallocation' system was implemented in place of that which allows players to decide every year which skill types can be trained faster while other skill types suffer slower skill training. For example: if you focused your character attributes to Willpower and Perception and taking away from other attributes such as Intelligence and Memory, then any skills you have that are effected by Willpower and Perception will train faster while your skills that are affected by Intelligence and Memory will suffer a slower training time. This is a once-a-year system for players. In no way does this ever allow SP reallocation. Only the speed of skill training for certain skill types.
I can see this 'Annual Attribute Reallocation' system working for Dust as well. It's a good compromise as it appeases both sides of the "SP Respeccing" debate. In Dust's case, the SP requirements for each level of a certain skill type will be reduced while other skill types will see a marked increase in SP requirements. It would also allow players to specialize faster in Dust. |
DementedReality
One-Armed Bandits Orbital Rights
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Posted - 2013.03.03 18:42:00 -
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*** I posted a comment regarding the attributes, but did not read it thoroughly. I removed my comment as it practically restated what the previous comment stated. |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
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Posted - 2013.03.03 20:23:00 -
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Is this skill reset still being mentioned in the merc pack purchase or something ... or is it just some word of mouth rumour thing now ?
A while ago it was still being stated somewhere, I presume CCP have remedied it. |
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XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
31
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Posted - 2013.03.03 20:35:00 -
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They will need to do a reset. If they do not this is NOT a BETA. They use the word BETA only to hide the insecurities of their ability to make a game and keep up with consumer expectations. IF there is no reset to start things over on game release than the game is already OFFICIALLY released. There is no such thing releasing a product out of beta state that is already used and tested with finger prints still on product. Beta is used for testing the game and finding out glitches and preparing for the end product. There is no way in hell you can release something allowing game testers (beta testers) to keep everything they have earned in beta.
The only thing I could sympathize for the beta testers is that we get in return the money they have spent with merc packs they have bought or aur they have bought during BETA. Once more IF there is no plans on reset once the game is officially released than the game is NOT in BETA anymore it is OFFICIALLY RELEASED. So take off the this game is in beta and being worked on. Most games that are released are still being worked on. Stop using words like BETA just to lower expectations if this game is already released. |
Bald Crusader Two
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.03.03 20:49:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:I would like to know where or who provided you such information. I'm sorry but what kind of comment is this?
What if he tells you it was his mate down the pub when they were both pissed as lords?
What if he tells you it was from an inside contact at Sony working on Dust related stuff?
Where does it put you then.
I swear CCP need to give up on this endless lust for retribution when the public aren't on corporate message.
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XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
31
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Posted - 2013.03.03 20:52:00 -
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Bald Crusader Two wrote:GM Hercules wrote:I would like to know where or who provided you such information. I'm sorry but what kind of comment is this? What if he tells you it was his mate down the pub when they were both pissed as lords? What if he tells you it was from an inside contact at Sony working on Dust related stuff? Where does it put you then. I swear CCP need to give up on this endless lust for retribution when the public aren't on corporate message.
Lol! You guys talk funny. Pissed as lords haha nice I like that. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
473
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Posted - 2013.03.03 20:54:00 -
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Bald Crusader Two wrote:GM Hercules wrote:I would like to know where or who provided you such information. I'm sorry but what kind of comment is this? What if he tells you it was his mate down the pub when they were both pissed as lords? What if he tells you it was from an inside contact at Sony working on Dust related stuff? Where does it put you then. I swear CCP need to give up on this endless lust for retribution when the public aren't on corporate message. will you please give it a rest, he just wants to stop misinformation being spread, nothing sinister about that.
XeroTheBigBoss wrote:They will need to do a reset. If they do not this is NOT a BETA. They use the word BETA only to hide the insecurities of their ability to make a game and keep up with consumer expectations. IF there is no reset to start things over on game release than the game is already OFFICIALLY released. There is no such thing releasing a product out of beta state that is already used and tested with finger prints still on product. Beta is used for testing the game and finding out glitches and preparing for the end product. There is no way in hell you can release something allowing game testers (beta testers) to keep everything they have earned in beta.
The only thing I could sympathize for the beta testers is that we get in return the money they have spent with merc packs they have bought or aur they have bought during BETA. Once more IF there is no plans on reset once the game is officially released than the game is NOT in BETA anymore it is OFFICIALLY RELEASED. So take off the this game is in beta and being worked on. Most games that are released are still being worked on. Stop using words like BETA just to lower expectations if this game is already released. and xero this is quite clearly still a beta, the majority of the features haven't even been released yet and this is far from the quality a released product should have, i will state though that i don't think this game should have gone into open beta quite yet, way to early and gives people a poor impression of the game. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
31
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Posted - 2013.03.03 20:57:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Bald Crusader Two wrote:GM Hercules wrote:I would like to know where or who provided you such information. I'm sorry but what kind of comment is this? What if he tells you it was his mate down the pub when they were both pissed as lords? What if he tells you it was from an inside contact at Sony working on Dust related stuff? Where does it put you then. I swear CCP need to give up on this endless lust for retribution when the public aren't on corporate message. will you please give it a rest, he just wants to stop misinformation being spread, nothing sinister about that. XeroTheBigBoss wrote:They will need to do a reset. If they do not this is NOT a BETA. They use the word BETA only to hide the insecurities of their ability to make a game and keep up with consumer expectations. IF there is no reset to start things over on game release than the game is already OFFICIALLY released. There is no such thing releasing a product out of beta state that is already used and tested with finger prints still on product. Beta is used for testing the game and finding out glitches and preparing for the end product. There is no way in hell you can release something allowing game testers (beta testers) to keep everything they have earned in beta.
The only thing I could sympathize for the beta testers is that we get in return the money they have spent with merc packs they have bought or aur they have bought during BETA. Once more IF there is no plans on reset once the game is officially released than the game is NOT in BETA anymore it is OFFICIALLY RELEASED. So take off the this game is in beta and being worked on. Most games that are released are still being worked on. Stop using words like BETA just to lower expectations if this game is already released. and xero this is quite clearly still a beta, the majority of the features haven't even been released yet and this is far from the quality a released product should have, i will state though that i don't think this game should have gone into open beta quite yet, way to early and gives people a poor impression of the game.
It is in beta right now because they are generous enough to allow everybody opportunity to play this potentially great game.I give them props for that. I just think IF you are going to release game you have to start it a new. You can't release a product officially and have everybody already at top tier day1 of official release. If they don't plan on reset the game is official regardless what's missing or what isn't. |
Covert Clay
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.03.03 21:03:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:Covert Clay wrote:I heard that they will reset everything for the full game release. Is this true? I would like to know where or who provided you such information. As other players have now replied to you, I don't need to extend my comment. Thanks.
Thanks for responding to my thread Hercules. The reason I am wondering is because it seems VERY likely that their would be a reset. Look at all the other games that had a "beta". The beta players stats were all reset, But I digress. XeroTheBigBoss stated almost exactly the reasons I would think their would be a reset.XeroTheBigBoss wrote:to start things over on game release than the game is already OFFICIALLY released. There is no such thing releasing a product out of beta state that is already used and tested with finger prints still on product. Beta is used for testing the game and finding out glitches and preparing for the end product. There is no way in hell you can release something allowing game testers (beta testers) to keep everything they have earned in beta.
The only thing I could sympathize for the beta testers is that we get in return the money they have spent with merc packs they have bought or aur they have bought during BETA. Once more IF there is no plans on reset once the game is officially released than the game is NOT in BETA anymore it is OFFICIALLY RELEASED. So take off the this game is in beta and being worked on. Most games that are released are still being worked on. Stop using words like BETA just to lower expectations if this game is already released |
Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
221
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Posted - 2013.03.03 21:14:00 -
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Covert Clay wrote:GM Hercules wrote:[quote=Covert Clay]I heard that they will reset everything for the full game release. Is this true? I would like to know where or who provided you such information. As other players have now replied to you, I don't need to extend my comment. Thanks.
Thanks for responding to my thread Hercules. The reason I am wondering is because it seems VERY likely that their would be a reset. Look at all the other games that had a "beta". The beta players stats were all reset/quote]
So "I heard" is now synonymous with "I imagine it probable".
Good to know. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1180
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Posted - 2013.03.03 21:40:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:We ARE in release. Sorry to burst your bubble. We ARE NOT in release. Bubble restored.
I'll bet you on it. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
468
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Posted - 2013.03.03 22:29:00 -
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FrozenChaos wrote:Covert Clay wrote:I heard that they will reset everything for the full game release. Is this true? where are people hearing this?
probly butthurt noobs with negative KDRs who sit-in local and rumor monger |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2962
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Posted - 2013.03.03 22:30:00 -
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Bald Crusader Two wrote:GM Hercules wrote:I would like to know where or who provided you such information. I'm sorry but what kind of comment is this? What if he tells you it was his mate down the pub when they were both pissed as lords? What if he tells you it was from an inside contact at Sony working on Dust related stuff? Where does it put you then. I swear CCP need to give up on this endless lust for retribution when the public aren't on corporate message.
Rumor mongering hunting. We got some trolls out there. |
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