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ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:53:00 -
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Firstly, I just like to say that the SLAYER Role exist in DUST 514. Regardless of, if CCP wanted it or not. As of right now, the Slayer is a legitimate role in both corp battles and public lobbies. In order to further promote this role, I believe CCP give WP Bonuses to effective players in this field. For example, Support players when they Rep a player receive the Repair WP. Furthermore, if that said person healed gets a kill the support player also receive a another WP bonus. The Slayer should be no different, if they complete a task that further benefits their team then there should be no reason why they can't be further rewarded.
Ok just to make sure there is no confusion I am going to briefly outline the slayer role in both Ambush and Skirmish. Hopefully, this will explain why Slayer is the one of the most important roles if not the most Important in DUST 514.
Slayer Role in Ambush -Kill as many clones as fast as possible. -Focus on AV and Support players for easy kills -Protect AV and support players from enemy slayers
Slayer Role in Skirmish -Kill as many clones as fast as possible. -Focus on AV and Support players for easy kills -Protect AV and support players from enemy slayers -Open up pathways to objectives by killing -Hacking the objective -Protect objective
So here are a couple WP bonus I think A slayer should receive:
1.) Multiple kill feed bonus
a.) Double kill - Player who kills two players in span of 3 secs or less will receive 10+ WP
b.)Triple Kill -Player who kills three players in span of 3 secs or less for each kill will receive 20+WP
c.) Multi Kill -Player who kills four or more players in span of 3 secs or less for each kill will receive 25+WP
2.) Killing Sprees
a.) Five Kills without dying= +50 WP
b.)Ten Kills without dying= +100 WP
c.)twenty Kills without dying= +200 WP
The slayer role is important role on the battlefield, and there is no reason why players who preform well in this roles should not get a War point bonus. So CCP, please put these bonuses in!
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BobThe843CakeMan
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
133
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:56:00 -
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ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:Firstly, I just like to say that the SLAYER Role exist in DUST 514. Regardless of, if CCP wanted it or not. As of right now, the Slayer is a legitimate role in both corp battles and public lobbies. In order to further promote this role, I believe CCP give WP Bonuses to effective players in this field. For example, Support players when they Rep a player receive the Repair WP. Furthermore, if that said person healed gets a kill the support player also receive a another WP bonus. The Slayer should be no different, if they complete a task that further benefits their team then there should be no reason why they can't be further rewarded.
Ok just to make sure there is no confusion I am going to briefly outline the slayer role in both Ambush and Skirmish. Hopefully, this will explain why Slayer is the one of the most important roles if not the most Important in DUST 514.
Slayer Role in Ambush -Kill as many clones as fast as possible. -Focus on AV and Support players for easy kills -Protect AV and support players from enemy slayers
Slayer Role in Skirmish -Kill as many clones as fast as possible. -Focus on AV and Support players for easy kills -Protect AV and support players from enemy slayers -Open up pathways to objectives by killing -Hacking the objective -Protect objective
So here are a couple WP bonus I think A slayer should receive:
1.) Multiple kill feed bonus
a.) Double kill - Player who kills two players in span of 3 secs or less will receive 10+ WP
b.)Triple Kill -Player who kills three players in span of 3 secs or less for each kill will receive 20+WP
c.) Multi Kill -Player who kills four or more players in span of 3 secs or less for each kill will receive 25+WP
2.) Killing Sprees
a.) Five Kills without dying= +50 WP
b.)Ten Kills without dying= +100 WP
c.)twenty Kills without dying= +200 WP
The slayer role is important role on the battlefield, and there is no reason why players who preform well in this roles should not get a War point bonus. So CCP, please put these bonuses in!
If they do this then i would like extra points for slaying the slayer. :D.
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Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1029
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:56:00 -
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stfu grunt, you'll get enough to keep you alive, nothing more. |
Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
63
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:57:00 -
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It smells like fish in here.
I think its a cod |
Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
205
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:57:00 -
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Rewarding multiple kills seems reasonable and doesn't really disadvantage anyone. I'm sure people could quite happily get multi-kill/killing spree while being medic/pilot, etc. |
ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:59:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:It smells like fish in here.
I think its a cod
Really so CODs the only game that rewards multi kills.
Better yet, maybe this game should become more like COD
Last time I checked COD was more balanced then this game |
Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
65
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:07:00 -
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COD is balanced because all of the weapons are almost identical.
with CCP going for so much depth its going to take a while to balance it out.
Sorry, don't want to see multi-kill bonuses, would rather see incentives stay for a squad to work as a unit.
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WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
19
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:11:00 -
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I would like to see new WP from offensive actions like multikill, savior, avenger. Why not? Also, headshot. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
679
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:11:00 -
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Here comes the CoD vs any other FPS arguments |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
50
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:12:00 -
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I could get on board for a headshot bonus, but let the rest of them stay in the trashpile you found them in. |
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ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:14:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:COD is balanced because all of the weapons are almost identical.
with CCP going for so much depth its going to take a while to balance it out.
Sorry, don't want to see multi-kill bonuses, would rather see incentives stay for a squad to work as a unit.
Firstly, all the weapons in cod are not identical. Play COD at the competitive level and you will understand that. Keep jumping on the Cod hate Ban wagon you think it makes your point.
I'm not going to even remark on that second point lol
Lastly, how does promoting role bonus WP system hurt squad play ??? If anything it promotes specializing, which... wait for... promotes squad play and is needed in corp battles |
Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
67
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:25:00 -
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ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:COD is balanced because all of the weapons are almost identical.
with CCP going for so much depth its going to take a while to balance it out.
Sorry, don't want to see multi-kill bonuses, would rather see incentives stay for a squad to work as a unit.
Firstly, all the weapons in cod are not identical. Play COD at the competitive level and you will understand that. Keep jumping on the Cod hate Ban wagon you think it makes your point. I'm not going to even remark on that second point lol Lastly, how does promoting role bonus WP system hurt squad play ??? If anything it promotes specializing, which... wait for... promotes squad play and is needed in corp battles
I bolded a key word for you, you seem to have missed it.
lol at your failure to comment on my second point.
getting WPs for kills is promoting roles. Why not rez streaks? Nanohive streaks? That's right, because its dumb. |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
56
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:29:00 -
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Slayer is not a role, because you run and jump are you an athlete role? should we get points for moving so ar or jumping over so many obstacles? No because moving and killing should be done regardless of reward, no ones gonna stop killing people because theres only a 50WP reard where as if healing didnt reward no one would heal or barely anyone would, same for hacking ect |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
196
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:31:00 -
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Would it give bonuses to slayers in vehicles? IMO I think they get enough support points for their team that that might unbalance them. So I would support this if it didn't apply to tank drivers. |
Ghesh Tkall
DUST University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:03:00 -
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ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:Firstly, all the weapons in cod are not identical. Play COD at the competitive level and you will understand that. Keep jumping on the Cod hate Ban wagon you think it makes your point.
Cod? Competitive?! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THAT'S HILARIOUS!!!!!!!
Cod is about as competitive as watching paint dry! |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
414
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:04:00 -
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I'm all for bonus points for the multi-kill and things like defending an objective and saving someone's life (savior) and head shots.
Kill streaks I can go without, have enough snipers already don't need to give extra incentive to camp.
I see going forward there to be a great variety to obtain WP.
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aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:06:00 -
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Yes I need a better reward for being a slayer. |
dabest2evadoit7
Cyberdyne Systems and Technology The Revenant Order
41
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:15:00 -
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ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:Firstly, I just like to say that the SLAYER Role exist in DUST 514. Regardless of, if CCP wanted it or not. As of right now, the Slayer is a legitimate role in both corp battles and public lobbies. In order to further promote this role, I believe CCP give WP Bonuses to effective players in this field. For example, Support players when they Rep a player receive the Repair WP. Furthermore, if that said person healed gets a kill the support player also receive a another WP bonus. The Slayer should be no different, if they complete a task that further benefits their team then there should be no reason why they can't be further rewarded.
Ok just to make sure there is no confusion I am going to briefly outline the slayer role in both Ambush and Skirmish. Hopefully, this will explain why Slayer is the one of the most important roles if not the most Important in DUST 514.
Slayer Role in Ambush -Kill as many clones as fast as possible. -Focus on AV and Support players for easy kills -Protect AV and support players from enemy slayers
Slayer Role in Skirmish -Kill as many clones as fast as possible. -Focus on AV and Support players for easy kills -Protect AV and support players from enemy slayers -Open up pathways to objectives by killing -Hacking the objective -Protect objective
So here are a couple WP bonus I think A slayer should receive:
1.) Multiple kill feed bonus
a.) Double kill - Player who kills two players in span of 3 secs or less will receive 10+ WP
b.)Triple Kill -Player who kills three players in span of 3 secs or less for each kill will receive 20+WP
c.) Multi Kill -Player who kills four or more players in span of 3 secs or less for each kill will receive 25+WP
2.) Killing Sprees
a.) Five Kills without dying= +50 WP
b.)Ten Kills without dying= +100 WP
c.)twenty Kills without dying= +200 WP
The slayer role is important role on the battlefield, and there is no reason why players who preform well in this roles should not get a War point bonus. So CCP, please put these bonuses in!
I am for this, all day. Love the idea. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
136
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:27:00 -
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Isnt COD one of the best sellers of all time? |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2300
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:27:00 -
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sorry but no reg |
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Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
72
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:28:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Isnt COD one of the best sellers of all time?
So is Mac Donalds. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
136
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:30:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Isnt COD one of the best sellers of all time? So is Mac Donalds. So a cheeseburger is a hmg |
Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
417
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:31:00 -
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Killing is already one of the most efficient ways to earn war points. There's no reason to throw more points in that direction and simply deny valuable support contributions the ISK they deserve under the current public match rewards algorithm. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
259
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:31:00 -
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Well seeing as the point of ambush is to slay i concur.
Also again support roles are meaningless if they dont have slayers to support and last i checked slayers are what clear entrenched areas for support players to hack objectives (at least if they are playing their roles right)
Im all for additional revenues of WP as long as they adjust the WP requirement for OBs to balance it out.
Also multi-kill bonuses and kill streak bonuses are would be available to support players as well just in the same way a slayer can carry a inj/rep tool/hive etc and get points by using it.
The difference is a support player is more likely to earn support points while a slayer is likely to get slayer points.
Fact is one hand washes the other and right now in 8v8 6-7 slayers with 1 support can wreck shop. The ratio works pretty much 3 slayers to 1 support can pretty much wreak havoc. If the 4 man slayer squad manages their equipment slots they can run around without a primary support and utterly decimate, thats been proven enough.
Slayers should be rewarded. The only question is how it might effect SL commissions as i leech enough off of the frago when i put it on you slayers already.
But killing is an important aspect to and essential function and should have a bonus to it if done in quick succession or without dying(by dying i mean statistical death).
Like i said though before make sure you adjust WP for OB's to compensate.
Oh and for ppl thinking this is to get some sort of edge, its not like we're asking for the broken KZ3 ribbon system. Or killstreak bonuses like an tactical nuke (oh wait ). Moreover every shooter gives recognition for a difficult series of killing accomplishments from goldeneye, halo, cod, bf uc, kz, cs, gr, TC/RS, if i have to spell out these abbreviations for you then really not my target audience i guess. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
279
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:31:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Isnt COD one of the best sellers of all time? So is Mac Donalds. So a cheeseburger is a hmg More like Chicken Nuggets |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
136
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:34:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Isnt COD one of the best sellers of all time? So is Mac Donalds. So a cheeseburger is a hmg More like Chicken Nuggets Thats the bullets |
Xender17
Oblivion S.G.X
5
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:34:00 -
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If wishes were fishes the sea would be full. |
Ghesh Tkall
DUST University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:36:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:Oh and for ppl thinking this is to get some sort of edge, its not like we're asking for the broken KZ3 ribbon system. Or killstreak bonuses like an tactical nuke (oh wait ). Moreover every shooter gives recognition for a difficult series of killing accomplishments from goldeneye, halo, cod, bf uc, kz, cs, gr, TC/RS, if i have to spell out these abbreviations for you then really not my target audience i guess.
Wait, when the hell did CS give rewards for killing sprees?! |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
34
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:37:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:I could get on board for a headshot bonus, but let the rest of them stay in the trashpile you found them in.
Headshot bonus already exists - you kill your target faster. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
259
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:37:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:Killing is already one of the most efficient ways to earn war points. There's no reason to throw more points in that direction and simply deny valuable support contributions the ISK they deserve under the current public match rewards algorithm.
Ugh based on regs WP suggestions that kind of rewards arent going to outstrip my rev/rez/rep/kill potential.
Also you can always put a cap on it like there is on support WPs now.
If you earn the same X WP in Y time then there is a Z timeout. Perhaps it should be a bit tighter with the slay bonus since the bonuses will occur with less frequency id imagine. Well except in Regs case and a few others in his league spread throughout the corps. |
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