Repeatedly yesterday in public matches, I kept being put on teams that would not squad or work together where half my team had 0 kills (with numerous deaths so not AFK) and hardly any WPs at end of match. Therefore, almost every match I fought yesterday was my squad of 3 versus 16. I asked myself if I was a player in that situation with 0 kills, multiple deaths, and hardly any war points, "Why keep playing?". I have yet to find a plausible answer. Any ideas what could be going through these players minds?

New players, starter suits, not used to the game, trying to improve and so on.

Also and important factor, match team balancing is just wrong sometime (I see alot of sometimes).
For sure it isn't fun to be a 4 man squad again 3-4 squad on the other side.

Repeatedly yesterday in public matches, I kept being put on teams that would not squad or work together where half my team had 0 kills (with numerous deaths so not AFK) and hardly any WPs at end of match. Therefore, almost every match I fought yesterday was my squad of 3 versus 16. I asked myself if I was a player in that situation with 0 kills, multiple deaths, and hardly any war points, "Why keep playing?". I have yet to find a plausible answer. Any ideas what could be going through these players minds?

Repeatedly yesterday in public matches, I kept being put on teams that would not squad or work together where half my team had 0 kills (with numerous deaths so not AFK) and hardly any WPs at end of match. Therefore, almost every match I fought yesterday was my squad of 3 versus 16. I asked myself if I was a player in that situation with 0 kills, multiple deaths, and hardly any war points, "Why keep playing?". I have yet to find a plausible answer. Any ideas what could be going through these players minds?

Any ideas what could be going through these players minds?

would not squad or work together

Repeatedly yesterday in public matches, I kept being put on teams that would not squad or work together where half my team had 0 kills (with numerous deaths so not AFK) and hardly any WPs at end of match. Therefore, almost every match I fought yesterday was my squad of 3 versus 16. I asked myself if I was a player in that situation with 0 kills, multiple deaths, and hardly any war points, "Why keep playing?". I have yet to find a plausible answer. Any ideas what could be going through these players minds?

I think the big thing here was this:

This is not CoD. You need to work as a squad/team to be successful in DUST. Unfortunately, there are too many lone wolves.

What could be going through such a playerGÇÖs mind?

How about: GÇ£What does this button do? How do I aim this sniper riffle? Wait, where did my riffle go? Why am I now holding a pistil? How do I get my riffle back? Wowha, dead again. What hit me? What are those glowing letters?" Etc...

I know this well as a person who bought the PS3 to play DUST and had never played on a consol before and had not played an FPS in 20 years. I think I had played for close to a week before I started getting kills. This morning I went 7/2 through, so I must be getting better. I expect that is why I kept playing. Because I thought I would get better.

Basically you got teamed up with a bunch of people who were completely new to the game. This is probably a good sign for the future of DUST. I hope they stick around long enough to figure out what they are doing.

Repeatedly yesterday in public matches, I kept being put on teams that would not squad or work together where half my team had 0 kills (with numerous deaths so not AFK) and hardly any WPs at end of match. Therefore, almost every match I fought yesterday was my squad of 3 versus 16. I asked myself if I was a player in that situation with 0 kills, multiple deaths, and hardly any war points, "Why keep playing?". I have yet to find a plausible answer. Any ideas what could be going through these players minds?

I said well lets get a few skills and hunt those guys that killed me.

Best advice to give a newberry??
Nanohives=WP so drop those suckers anyplace near heavies.

To clarify based off comments, I was playing Skirmish and I was squaded with my corp mates. If it weren't for my corp mates, it would of been 1 on 16 instead of 3 on 16.
Maybe it is new players but if so, they were all on my team. I am just frustrated by my streak of losses yesterday which I could not affect no matter how much my corp mates and I tried. We also wasted a lot of good gear.

Why don't you roll with your corp then?

If you go lone wolf like myself... You have to pay that price of not being able to rely on anyone, this is why I can probably mow though a squad without support at times.

This is also what makes me a very dangerous team player when I am squadded up.

Repeatedly yesterday in public matches, I kept being put on teams that would not squad or work together where half my team had 0 kills (with numerous deaths so not AFK) and hardly any WPs at end of match. Therefore, almost every match I fought yesterday was my squad of 3 versus 16. I asked myself if I was a player in that situation with 0 kills, multiple deaths, and hardly any war points, "Why keep playing?". I have yet to find a plausible answer. Any ideas what could be going through these players minds?

With self important bloggers and social media able to influence a much wider customer base those negative reviews can start to add up and seriously dent Dust's profitability. How can you attract more people to EvE and the lore when they play for a few days get highly annoyed and vow never to come back? Not good for business.

Repeatedly yesterday in public matches, I kept being put on teams that would not squad or work together where half my team had 0 kills (with numerous deaths so not AFK) and hardly any WPs at end of match. Therefore, almost every match I fought yesterday was my squad of 3 versus 16. I asked myself if I was a player in that situation with 0 kills, multiple deaths, and hardly any war points, "Why keep playing?". I have yet to find a plausible answer. Any ideas what could be going through these players minds?

you could have been trying too hard, some matches are hopeless. unless it's a corp match you're not obligated to anyone to keep throwing away gear on a hopeless battle.

this is why i have to solo most of the time, everyone wants to try too hard in a pub match they get redlined in and they end up screaming at me because I refuse to solo hack points and get shot in the back of the head while they go negative trying to do that.

these same morons also insist on hacking CRUs since they are supposedly bound to their stupid code of honor, but in their mind it's ok to hack EVERY thing and then redline the enemy team-

I'm like.. you're doing the exact same thing by redlinging and camping the enemy team I was doing at the CRU except I didnt have to run a freakin marathon to get my kills. i can't stand most of the community is so into this and considers running/hacking to be more fun than an actual fight then they have a screaming session during/after each pub match.

EvE was never like that the Aurum items were cosmetic only (last I played) and gave no discernible edge in any area. Could you imagine the backlash of having to train all that time for a T2 ship then they go a head and produce an Aurum model that can be used with T1 SP but comparable to the T2 variant?

Why then in Dust did they make the Aurum items so vital to play? Is it to give newer people without the SP to use the higher meta level with ISK but to get it one step sooner with Aurum? But then the Aurum items are simply devastating with those who have higher skills which would tip the balance out of favor of the new people. Unless you put in an SP cap at which point you can no longer use Aur items when the next higher tier of those with ISK can be used.

What drew me to Dust was its connections to EvE, but that won't be enough to hold me here if there is not more content added soon. Along with a more even playing field when there is a lot that could be done to improve game play. It has been the same small maps, same broken content for weeks. How much more can be tested beyond the stress test for the servers?

If the AUR items are the same as ISK what advantage do more experienced players get from them?

It should be a way for new players to be able to compete with more experienced players on a more even footing without getting ruthlessly stomped. Or they can suck it up and play with what they got. Something needs to be done about it though or Dust won't have a player base that will compete with the last of this generations shooters or into the next gen systems.

If nothing new happens to Dust and once Defiance comes out in a few weeks I am out. Not even its connection to EvE will keep me around. And when it does launch I don't really see a reason to come back to it.

Yes but they continue to get outclassed by those with higher SP anyway. Part of this game whether people want to acknowledge it or not, comes down to gear. EvE is no different. A well fitted T1 Frigate can more than take out a Cruiser. A group of well fitted and coordinated frigates can take out a battleship. What if they don't buy the Mercenary pack and get the free aurum? The tutorial is dreadful in what it explains and how the game works. How SP really effects what can and can't be used.

So you have a tier 3 weapon that you're using at tier 2 because of aurum and then you come across a player or a squad in proto gear and it doesn't matter anyway.

The big issue is how small maps are which allows certain builds to dominate along with tanks being the linchpin of any coordinated team. This is why they need to start expanding both maps and content or they will be losing players to new games as they come out. Both WoW and Rift has allowed new players a more even chance to reach the top and compete fairly which is why you see such high numbers for their subscriptions.

Where as you look at EvE and their reverse approach for giving almost no viable way for new people to truly matter keeps the game population low. 30k may be playing EvE at any given time on one server but you have that many and much more in WoW playing on just one of many servers. I can see the same thing happening in Dust much like it does with PlanetSide 2. The more experienced players with the best gear will completely dominate keeping the small core population content but rarely bringing in new customers.

It is a shame because the EvE universe is simply amazing.

When there are so many other games out there that don't require that and that puts you on an even footing right at the start of every match why play a game where you are negatively handicapped for being new or not putting real money into it? What appeal does Dust have to draw in new players?

Ok, I see what you mean. The only solution then is to remove all gear from the game and give everyone that same equipment though? What else could you do?

They can do what ALL MMOs do and match players based on progress, make game modes that restrict the type/level of gear used. This forces people to play with others that have advanced as far as you have. Ofcourse you will only be able to squad with friends of the same level. WOW does this, FFXIV, FFXI, SWTOR. If you play shooters all your life its hard to see the obvious solution.

Repeatedly yesterday in public matches, I kept being put on teams that would not squad or work together where half my team had 0 kills (with numerous deaths so not AFK) and hardly any WPs at end of match. Therefore, almost every match I fought yesterday was my squad of 3 versus 16. I asked myself if I was a player in that situation with 0 kills, multiple deaths, and hardly any war points, "Why keep playing?". I have yet to find a plausible answer. Any ideas what could be going through these players minds?

Repeatedly yesterday in public matches, I kept being put on teams that would not squad or work together where half my team had 0 kills (with numerous deaths so not AFK) and hardly any WPs at end of match. Therefore, almost every match I fought yesterday was my squad of 3 versus 16. I asked myself if I was a player in that situation with 0 kills, multiple deaths, and hardly any war points, "Why keep playing?". I have yet to find a plausible answer. Any ideas what could be going through these players minds?

"I like turtles"

Repeatedly yesterday in public matches, I kept being put on teams that would not squad or work together where half my team had 0 kills (with numerous deaths so not AFK) and hardly any WPs at end of match. Therefore, almost every match I fought yesterday was my squad of 3 versus 16. I asked myself if I was a player in that situation with 0 kills, multiple deaths, and hardly any war points, "Why keep playing?". I have yet to find a plausible answer. Any ideas what could be going through these players minds?

Without those people, I would have far less kills than I do.

When there are so many other games out there that don't require that and that puts you on an even footing right at the start of every match why play a game where you are negatively handicapped for being new or not putting real money into it? What appeal does Dust have to draw in new players?

Why don't you roll with your corp then?

If you go lone wolf like myself... You have to pay that price of not being able to rely on anyone, this is why I can probably mow though a squad without support at times.

This is also what makes me a very dangerous team player when I am squadded up.

Repeatedly yesterday in public matches, I kept being put on teams that would not squad or work together where half my team had 0 kills (with numerous deaths so not AFK) and hardly any WPs at end of match. Therefore, almost every match I fought yesterday was my squad of 3 versus 16. I asked myself if I was a player in that situation with 0 kills, multiple deaths, and hardly any war points, "Why keep playing?". I have yet to find a plausible answer. Any ideas what could be going through these players minds?