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Israckcatarac
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:43:00 -
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IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf. |
Kane Fyea
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
65
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:44:00 -
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Israckcatarac wrote:IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf. It's just you..... |
Honda Element
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
8
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:44:00 -
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Israckcatarac wrote:IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf.
I think nerfing needs to be nerfed. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
454
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:45:00 -
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Israckcatarac wrote:IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf.
Actually an AR can shoot further then my LR, fancy that.
So I skilled AR after viziam now.
What's that?
The gek and exile have less recoil then the proto duvolle?
I can hold R1 at long range and rip people apart?
Yes I can. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
463
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:49:00 -
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26 meters un skilled isn't too far.
real rifles go up to 300 meters. don't you love when science fiction weapons suck worst than modern ones. |
ImperfectFan514
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
53
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:50:00 -
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Israckcatarac wrote:IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf.
Your smoking crack get some freaking skill and quit whining about the AR CCP has already nerfed it enough for PVE scrubs. |
General John Ripper
Killshot Corp
39
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:53:00 -
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bet hes a sniper who got shot down by an ar. noob |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
455
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:53:00 -
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ImperfectFan514 wrote:Israckcatarac wrote:IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf. Your smoking crack get some freaking skill and quit whining about the AR CCP has already nerfed it enough for PVE scrubs.
It needs nerfed again.
And recoil needs fixed.
Actually fix recoil and voil+á. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
257
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:54:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:26 meters un skilled isn't too far.
real rifles go up to 300 meters. don't you love when science fiction weapons suck worst than modern ones. Well... They use plasma which would probably burn right through tank armor. And btw it isn't 26meters its like 60 meters |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
442
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:56:00 -
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Israckcatarac wrote:IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf.
no it's just you.
and this |
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GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
179
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:58:00 -
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no ARs DO NOT need a range nerf, they are fine. they just need more space between tiers to give us a reason to use higher teir. LR do way more dmg than an AR at range |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
455
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Posted - 2013.02.28 01:02:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:no ARs DO NOT need a range nerf, they are fine. they just need more space between tiers to give us a reason to use higher teir. LR do way more dmg than an AR at range
True, but at the same range being able to simply hold R1 is ridiculous.
Also, when I armor tank and stack damage mods, I feel no difference between my elm and gek at range.
Viziam is another story though.
AR's simply need
Less recoil for proto, more for the lower tiers,
They also need a damage difference or something to make you want proto. |
James Thraxton
The Exemplars
82
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Posted - 2013.02.28 01:35:00 -
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AR's are fine where they are, changing them would unbalance every other weapon in the game. for the hate of the nerfbat htfu |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
157
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Posted - 2013.02.28 01:39:00 -
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Train sharpshooter proficiency and then get back to us with an extra dose of QQ. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
403
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Posted - 2013.02.28 01:40:00 -
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Lr needs longer range |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
168
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Posted - 2013.02.28 02:07:00 -
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Haha, as a heavy it's a delight to read a nerf post in regard to another weapon. Thank you OP. But you're wrong. ARs range is grand. Everything is actually fairly well setup now. A well mixed squad can handle most situations. Any tweaks should be of the nerf/buff feather type rather than lump hammer style. |
Vexen Krios
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
0
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Posted - 2013.02.28 08:28:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:no ARs DO NOT need a range nerf, they are fine. they just need more space between tiers to give us a reason to use higher teir. LR do way more dmg than an AR at range True, but at the same range being able to simply hold R1 is ridiculous. Also, when I armor tank and stack damage mods, I feel no difference between my elm and gek at range. Viziam is another story though. AR's simply need Less recoil for proto, more for the lower tiers, They also need a damage difference or something to make you want proto.
Agreed. Everything is pretty even right now lot better than it was. I don't have too much to complain about except lack of new content. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1163
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Posted - 2013.02.28 08:33:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:no ARs DO NOT need a range nerf, they are fine. they just need more space between tiers to give us a reason to use higher teir. LR do way more dmg than an AR at range True, but at the same range being able to simply hold R1 is ridiculous. Also, when I armor tank and stack damage mods, I feel no difference between my elm and gek at range. Viziam is another story though. AR's simply need Less recoil for proto, more for the lower tiers, They also need a damage difference or something to make you want proto.
Much Much agreed on the recoil part except i think Damage can stay as is. But definitely, recoil needs to be upped on low grade ARs. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
4
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Posted - 2013.02.28 08:43:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:no ARs DO NOT need a range nerf, they are fine. they just need more space between tiers to give us a reason to use higher teir. LR do way more dmg than an AR at range True, but at the same range being able to simply hold R1 is ridiculous. Also, when I armor tank and stack damage mods, I feel no difference between my elm and gek at range. Viziam is another story though. AR's simply need Less recoil for proto, more for the lower tiers, They also need a damage difference or something to make you want proto.
I agree at least the militia one needs more recoil. And you are right about the Proto one as well. But I would rather like a slight increase of ROF over the tiers, so the higher recoil make sense (due to higher DPS) |
Kamiya Musume
Suffer Inc.
70
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Posted - 2013.02.28 08:49:00 -
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Remove ARs altogether, every other FPS has them and only CoD kiddies use them, let's have electromagnetic catapults! also some nice wooden crossbows...
oh, and where are all the exploding barrels? |
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
196
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Posted - 2013.02.28 08:58:00 -
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To Op... please be more accurate
Tactical version of AR ... are about 130m at start Breach about 50m dont hit anythig.
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
291
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Posted - 2013.02.28 09:21:00 -
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I can hit stuff pretty far away with my Gek @ sharpshooter lvl 4, but it doesn't do much of anything unless I am shooting a scout with very little shield or armor protection. Otherwise I have to crouch to do any kind of relevant damage against anybody who has somewhat decent shields/armor.
Until the HMG gets a range nerf, the AR's shouldn't be touched. I got out-ranged by a heavy tonight with my most shield-tanked suit I can muster up (had almost 600 in health), which reminded me how ridiculous of a range they actually have. |
Vexen Krios
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
1
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:04:00 -
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Granted range on hmgs are kinda ridiculous, you shouldn't go head on with a heavy. I do sometimes but rarely. I always use the element of suprise |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
291
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:08:00 -
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Vexen Krios wrote:Granted range on hmgs are kinda ridiculous, you shouldn't go head on with a heavy. I do sometimes but rarely. I always use the element of suprise
Yeah, if by head-on you mean 200 feet away, then sure
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trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
167
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:10:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Lr needs longer range
This. |
Vexen Krios
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
1
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:13:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Vexen Krios wrote:Granted range on hmgs are kinda ridiculous, you shouldn't go head on with a heavy. I do sometimes but rarely. I always use the element of suprise Yeah, if by head-on you mean 200 feet away, then sure
Haha I meant head on as in them seeing us as at all lol |
Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines
1
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:33:00 -
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Seriously, Duvolle rifles need a price drop or a recoil buff, I'm not burning all that ISK to get dropped by a GEK in a head on conflict. Before someone says "ERRR FIX UR GUNGAME", I switched to GEK and do just fine. |
dabest2evadoit7
Cyberdyne Systems and Technology The Revenant Order
39
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:06:00 -
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Israckcatarac wrote:IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf.
You fail to realize that you can skill up sharp shooter which increases the damage done at further distances. Keep that in mind next time you get shot from across the map. |
LrDr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:36:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:
real rifles go up to 300 meters. don't you love when science fiction weapons suck worst than modern ones.
real HMG go up 1500-2000 meters, ..... fix them right from 50-80m in dust ?)))) |
Monkxx
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:38:00 -
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Buff LR range. Oh, and yeah....nerf AR range. |
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
444
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:43:00 -
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LrDr wrote:Necrodermis wrote:
real rifles go up to 300 meters. don't you love when science fiction weapons suck worst than modern ones.
real HMG go up 1500-2000 meters, ..... fix them right from 50-80m in dust ?)))) There's the range the bullets go, then there's the range up to which it will have any effect at all against sci-fi armor. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
404
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:43:00 -
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Wait wouldn't more recoil per tier make it harder to use but still easy mode at the same time? I hope it's intended like that. |
LrDr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:11:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote: There's the range the bullets go, then there's the range up to which it will have any effect at all against sci-fi armor.
our shield`s look like awesome, 50m from hgm - from full to zero at 0.2sec. 55m from gmh - no any damage. Spaceawemoswmagic i think. |
xXCleopatra FlippantXx
LABRADOR LAV's
0
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:29:00 -
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assult rifles are boss, cuz u need skill to use em aswell, i'd say, its a good investment. if u wanna be a slow poking heavy machine gunner, fine, i'll try and out flank and poke you, while i stay in cover, and try to run behind and jack you while surrounded . its super fun to try, but u can allso die in fire.. u have to play the role, not just use weapons, and assult is gracefull. i do admit its the scariest weapon in the game tho, in the hands of madmen like seraphim 4 example |
semperfi1999
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:39:00 -
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LrDr wrote:Necrodermis wrote:
real rifles go up to 300 meters. don't you love when science fiction weapons suck worst than modern ones.
real HMG go up 1500-2000 meters, ..... fix them right from 50-80m in dust ?))))
Sorry but you fail at recognizing the difference between RL and game balance.
If you want R/L then in reality the HMG should have a chance to jam when its being used and clearing the jam should take a heavy 3 times the normal reload speed. After extensive use they should also have to clean the gun in the MQ since they would get dirty really fast and cause even more jams if you use it without cleaning properly. It could be a minigame for the heavies to have to clean their HMGs and put it back together right or it explodes the next time you try to shoot it.
So cut the RL example idiocy. This isnt RL. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
663
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:42:00 -
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Israckcatarac wrote:IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf.
You were probably killed by someone who has already maxed out Light Sharpshooter and is now a few skill levels into Light Sharpshooter Proficiency.
See... If you skill into things, it makes them better. He put points into being able to shoot you at a long distance, you didnt.
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LrDr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:07:00 -
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semperfi1999, sorry, about R/L AR to 300 meters - my words to? Meybe - first look, then write ?))
btw: what about blaster & railgun in R/L? I think it`s wery close to personal nuclear reactor for dropsuit. |
semperfi1999
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:06:00 -
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LrDr wrote:semperfi1999, sorry, about R/L AR to 300 meters - my words to? Meybe - first look, then write ?))
btw: what about blaster & railgun in R/L? I think it`s wery close to personal nuclear reactor for dropsuit.
If you look at the quote its obvious who said what. I quoted your post which you had already quoted someone else. I was responding to your post only but I think I made it pretty clear that I think comparing a game to RL is idiotic. If you didnt understand that in my post then I will make it clear. Game Balance > Real Life If you start talking about RL in relation to gaming you have already lost the arguement.......because noone cares about RL for gaming its about balance. If this game was RL its likely 1 strike from an orbiting ship would completely glass the entire map that we play on making any further fighting futile.
BTW when people quote they are usually quoting and speaking to the person specifically that made that post not necessarily to all the people who you might have quoted beforehand. |
LrDr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.02.28 22:06:00 -
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semperfi1999, let`s go from start: - R/L rifles up to 300m - somebody say - Yap - answer i - HMG up to 2000m, fix AR and HMG as R/L? (i hope you understand that meen "sarcasm" ) - R/L HMG jam, slow reload [....many other word abour R/L...], overall: comparing a game to RL is idiotic - say You to me twice, and twice write many words about R/L. There logic, man?
btw - i not be strike from orbit, i throw the shuttle or frigat - more effective. 2th bwt - you may edit quote text - it`s simble and not take many time, try it, it`s realy simplifies dialogue. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2013.02.28 22:11:00 -
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Most of the rilfes can get ranges comparable to snipers with BETTER accuracy because of the maxed skills for less kick. Once they twaek laser rifles, ARs are going to be a joke at long range as Laser rifles are at close range. |
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Fornacis Fairchild
Kat 5 Kaos
26
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Posted - 2013.02.28 22:31:00 -
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Hahaha.....sniper butt hurt.
The range is fine ...
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Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.02.28 23:01:00 -
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oh look, another AR thread, while were at it ,lets nerf the reload time. seeing we want the recoil, range, dmg nerfd, may as well make it an even four. |
Israckcatarac
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.02.28 23:11:00 -
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Like Moth's to the fire. After listening to you all QQ about the Range of my HVY for the last 2 months, and a lack of AR nerf requests. It felt it was time to break the monopoly. OOh and for all you -5k kills with less then 2.00 KDR you can kiss my Big Fat HVY 10k+ kill's Buttock's. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
416
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:30:00 -
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sniper rifle does full damage to 600m. AR does full to about 36m, 78m max range before plasma disappears.
both can be improved by sharpshooter kills, my ar now has max of about 106m, my sniper does full damage to 800m+.
Ar doesn't rival sniper rifle range, snipers are shooting from to close most of the time.
Real life, plasma weapons were looked into and not pursed due to short range before plasma dispersed to nothing. So, the ar range is about right from that angle too. They use them for the high damage. M-16 would out range a gek, but do nothing to our armour when it hits.
Laser rifle does max damage at far side of it's range, ar at the close side. So, even with similar ranges they fit different engagement ranges best. Rather then more range, it would be nice if the laser dropped in damage for a while after the current max. |
Evicer
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:45:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:Train sharpshooter proficiency and then get back to us with an extra dose of QQ.
Hate to flame ya but this guy is absolutely right......
to the OP:this guy that shot you probably has lvl5.
Im sick of punk whinners
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
4
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:12:00 -
[46] - Quote
I've gotten taken out at longer ranges by a few AR's (typically while sniping). It can be a suprise when I run across someone who mows me down from farther away than expected with an AR, but as other's have said it is a rifle so it's meant for more than strictly up-close work, and with the sharpshooter skills the effective range can get pretty good. I think it's cool the skills can have such a noticeable effect if you put the points in to specialize.
When I get tagged from afar w/ the AR I just chalk it up to my needing better tactics or situational awarenss and I re-spawn. I don't think they need to be nerfed for range or damage (although I do agree w/ the comments on more recoil for lower tier AR's).
I kind of like the idea of using the Tac AR w/ my scout suit for some mid-range strategic sniping (this seems like it would be a particularly good compromise w/ the scout suits that only have 1 weapon slot). If I can make it more effective w/ the sharpshooter skill, all the better.
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trollface dot jpg
Destined 4 Biomass
32
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Posted - 2013.03.01 12:05:00 -
[47] - Quote
Kamiya Musume wrote:Remove ARs altogether, every other FPS has them and only CoD kiddies use them, let's have electromagnetic catapults! also some nice wooden crossbows...
oh, and where are all the exploding barrels? Now THERE'S an idea... |
Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
70
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Posted - 2013.03.01 12:53:00 -
[48] - Quote
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40886&find=unread
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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
130
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Posted - 2013.03.01 13:56:00 -
[49] - Quote
WTF?
what is wrong with you people?
AR is fine.
it's you players that are broken.
Peace B |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
226
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Posted - 2013.03.01 14:25:00 -
[50] - Quote
Vermaak Doe wrote:Lr needs longer range
yep |
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
112
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Posted - 2013.03.01 14:37:00 -
[51] - Quote
Nothing wrong with the AR. |
Prangstar RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
64
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Posted - 2013.03.10 12:34:00 -
[52] - Quote
Israckcatarac wrote:IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf. I smell a sniper ***** getting owned every single game. Nerf noobs. |
Firestorm Zulu
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
173
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Posted - 2013.03.10 12:41:00 -
[53] - Quote
They need to increase the range of ARs. Dissapearing bullets is not a good mechanic. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
319
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Posted - 2013.03.10 12:44:00 -
[54] - Quote
Maximum Effective range on the 'M16' for a Point Target = 550 meters Max Effective Range for an Area Target = 800 meters
Maximum effective range for the SA80 is 400 meters.
Just sayin' |
J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.03.10 13:59:00 -
[55] - Quote
The longest range you'll get with a Gallente AR is 170 some meters. That's with a Duvolle Tactical AR and Sharpshooter + Sharpshooter Proficiency 5.
Gallente AR are fine. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
397
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Posted - 2013.03.10 15:42:00 -
[56] - Quote
Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:no ARs DO NOT need a range nerf, they are fine. they just need more space between tiers to give us a reason to use higher teir. LR do way more dmg than an AR at range True, but at the same range being able to simply hold R1 is ridiculous. Also, when I armor tank and stack damage mods, I feel no difference between my elm and gek at range. Viziam is another story though. AR's simply need Less recoil for proto, more for the lower tiers, They also need a damage difference or something to make you want proto.
Don't really know what you're talking about. You cannot hold down R1 with any assault rifle and not have to compensate for recoil. Especially not across the map. Even the exile requires some control. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
400
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Posted - 2013.03.10 15:54:00 -
[57] - Quote
Israckcatarac wrote:IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf.
yes it is ccp nerf the AR |
Doc Audio
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.03.10 16:11:00 -
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Israckcatarac wrote:IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf.
Its not near as bad as it was in closed beta. Im assuming you were not here when they nerfed the AR the first few times? It was the same complaint though....Nerf the AR, it shoots across the map, it does to much damage etc..
Im thinking that maybe its the Light Weapon Sharpshooter skill bonus that is causing you grief not the AR itself. Honestly id rather ccp work on the game content at this point....the weapon balance is decent and ccp can make minor changes in weapon balance after we get the full feel of what the game has to offer!
Additionally, the maps we are playing on are about 1/8th of what they are supposed to be. Once we get the full size maps you snipers will have plenty of opportunities to be untouchable! Then again, at that point this thread would read "Nerf Sniper Rifles" they can shoot across the map?
Just remember, the majority of the community uses the AR. If we nerf that again ccp will have to nerf everything else to make the majority happy? |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2094
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Posted - 2013.03.10 16:16:00 -
[59] - Quote
Please nerf the ARs range, it is getting too close to my sniper rifle's base range of 599m |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
687
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Posted - 2013.03.10 16:18:00 -
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Israckcatarac wrote:IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf.
No it's just you, but take into account that the sharpshooter skill increases range by 5% per level, so that's an extra 25% for maxed skill. |
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1953
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Posted - 2013.03.10 16:29:00 -
[61] - Quote
Love the AR guys getting all up in arms |
Doc Audio
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.03.10 16:38:00 -
[62] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:Love the AR guys getting all up in arms
Im not an AR guy, just being honest. The AR is nothing now compared to what it was 3 or 4 months ago!
There are a lot of nerf threads posted without any actual thought put into the game mechanics, this is one of them! Just because a few people every three or four pub matches can shoot from one objective into another doesn't mean that the AR needs a nerf? I can promise you the OP had this happen on one of the smaller ambush or 3 point skirmish maps. While we are at it Nerf hmg's as well cus they can do the same thing!
As a logi-bro I guess I wouldn't complain. Less effective range on everything would make my game time a lot easier! |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1953
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Posted - 2013.03.10 16:40:00 -
[63] - Quote
It's less about how far the AR can shoot, and more about how accurate it is at extreme range. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
150
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Posted - 2013.03.10 16:49:00 -
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it's less about getting clobbered with an ar with better aiming skills because you can't seem to hide far enough away to not get clobbered...
and more about how far up the tampon can go before it pops out the nose.
most of you snipers aren't even out on the field anyway.
the ar guys have to come find you because you're all hiding.
then when the ar scopes you out, because you're in a light suit, you get jack hammered in 3 rounds.
and whine about.
Peace B |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
81
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Posted - 2013.03.10 17:20:00 -
[65] - Quote
Congratulions on being the 10,00th nerf thred creator, you won a career change, your wisdom has proven to us all you derserve a position more fitting for you than the grunt work on the battlefield, report to the target range for your new position ASAP |
Prangstar RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
65
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Posted - 2013.03.10 22:02:00 -
[66] - Quote
all these ***** ass snipers need to buy Sniper 2 ghost warrior, that game is made for you. Stop whining when someone who actually do know how to play the game murders your hiding bitchass |
Drake435
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
21
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Posted - 2013.03.10 22:18:00 -
[67] - Quote
Israckcatarac wrote:IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf.
Its called "Light Weapon Sharpshooter". Without it, AR's don't reach very well. Also, there's a burst variant that operates with a sniper-like scope. |
Happy Violentime
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.03.10 23:30:00 -
[68] - Quote
I'm looking forward to more tears when we get our scopes back :) |
Rifter7
Improvise.
61
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Posted - 2013.03.10 23:34:00 -
[69] - Quote
they do hit really far, but they lose damage the farther the bullet travels and the spread increases a lot as well.
if you're HPs on par with a militia suit and you're fighting a high sp user you're going to die, but most of the mid range and beyond weapons can deal with ar users at their optimals pretty easily.
you still need to be able to survive what they CAN hit you with tho. |
Drake435
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
21
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Posted - 2013.03.11 00:11:00 -
[70] - Quote
Rifter7 wrote:they do hit really far, but they lose damage the farther the bullet travels and the spread increases a lot as well.
if you're HPs on par with a militia suit and you're fighting a high sp user you're going to die, but most of the mid range and beyond weapons can deal with ar users at their optimals pretty easily.
you still need to be able to survive what they CAN hit you with tho.
The Burst variant has little to no spread. It does suffer from reduced damage at range so Light wep. sharpshooter is a must for all AR users regardless of which variant they use. |
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
33
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Posted - 2013.03.11 00:39:00 -
[71] - Quote
Israckcatarac wrote:IS it me or is the AR Reaching across the assault maps like a Sniper Rifle, look's like it needs a range nerf. OMG!!!! Stop with the complaining about about nerf this nerf that! My *****y hurts, htfu and get better!! I think laser rifles are OP but who cares! Find a way to counter it. Here's a thought, OPEN YOUR EYES!!! Don't stroll around in the open and I won't shoot you with my GEK with all appropriate skills maxed out from 300 meters away, just stop it, please, all you babies are giving me a freaking anurism. |
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