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Syther Shadows CowTek 7	Posted - 2013.02.27 08:54:00 - [1] - Quote Hey guys you may have seen me in game or around the forums this is something i think Every one needs to know snipers ARE OP ! And yes i have tested it ive played them seen other people playing them and i Don't think the problem will be fixed until ccp removes Sniper rifles its so silly ! Honestly i saw my younger brother sniping he is what 14 ? One match it took him to get good at sniping i hope That this will make you think about what needs to be fixed in dust and that is all
Syther Shadows CowTek 7	Posted - 2013.02.27 08:54:00 - [2] - Quote and now we wait.
Mithridates VI New Eden Research Foundation 184	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:02:00 - [3] - Quote I agree. Please, if anyone can, name one weapon IRL which can accurately fire over 500 goddamn meters! No? Nothing. Exactly. Now imagine that same impossibility, but your arms are made of metal. It's ridiculous. Sniper rifles should be removed from play and people with skills in sniping have their experience automatically put into sensor upgrades so they can actually help their team.
Bald Crusader Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 35	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:04:00 - [4] - Quote Is this not a feedback / request thread and should it be moved to a more appropriate forum?
Syther Shadows CowTek 7	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:07:00 - [5] - Quote Bald Crusader wrote: Is this not a feedback / request thread and should it be moved to a more appropriate forum? this thread has neither feedback or requests only chocolate
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative 0	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:16:00 - [6] - Quote I dont get it.... HMG's are OP, AR's are OP, now snipers too? There is a limit to how many things are OP before they all are exactly the same in terms of effectiveness. So you got sniped out from across the map a few times, and maybe it was a one hit kill, and maybe it stopped your rampage of carnage.... Well thats fine its what snipers are meant to do. I dont quite understand what you expect CCP to do about snipers. Damage nerf? That would make snipers useless. Accuracy Nerf? Maybe but hit boxes are screwy enough without penalising them further.... Sniper Rifles do high damage in all games OHKing or two shotting everything and a good sniper will take you out every time. Trust me Im a guy who is a sniper magnet. Just remember this is a future where technology has advanced to such a degree that drop ships and orbital ballistic strikes are possible not to mention that the application of drop suits in modern warfare caused the need for firearms and weaponry to become exponentionally more potent. In this case Sniper Rounds would be designed to puncture shields and armour alike and remember that what is beneath that armour is still flesh and bone. Also most games support one hit sniper kills with unerring accuracy. Halo does it, CoD does it.
Bald Crusader Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 35	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:17:00 - [7] - Quote Syther Shadows wrote: Bald Crusader wrote: Is this not a feedback / request thread and should it be moved to a more appropriate forum? this thread has neither feedback or requests only chocolate The title does however and it should be moved for the sake of transparency and consistency.
Cathro Adalsteinn Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:17:00 - [8] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: I agree. Please, if anyone can, name one weapon IRL which can accurately fire over 500 goddamn meters! No? Nothing. Exactly. Now imagine that same impossibility, but your arms are made of metal. It's ridiculous. Sniper rifles should be removed from play and people with skills in sniping have their experience automatically put into sensor upgrades so they can actually help their team. "The longest kill recorded in the Vietnam War was at a range well over a mile; a Marine Corps sniper armed with an M2 .50-caliber machinegun (they'll fire singles if you use one thumb on the trigger) made the shot. The longest confirmed recorded kill by a military sniper is 2430m (about 1.5 miles), set during Operation Anaconda (Afghanistan, 2002) by a Canadian soldier, Rob Furlong. The previous record was indeed set in Vietnam, 1962, by Carlos Hathcock at a distance of 4576m (about 2.6 miles)." Source: How Far Can A Sniper Rifle Shoot? - WikiAnswers I honestly don't see why sniping should be removed - I understand this is a game, but you're not going to have the opposing side in an actual war say, Quote:* Hey you guys! Take out your snipers, sheesh! They're too cheap and we can't get any of our guys anywhere thanks to your well trained and highly skilled snipers! I can see maybe reducing the attack power and nerfing some of the higher-power sniper rifles, but removing the weapons altogether is as absurd as saying shotguns should be removed from the game because of the ability to kill most players in one shot at point-blank range.
Herrick Arcos The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries 56	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:18:00 - [9] - Quote I cant help but agree with all these points and thereby conclude that the cake is both alive, and a lie. My argument is thus, 1. (A v B) GÇó (~Z GÇó B) 2. ~A 3. B GÇó ~Z \ X
Orenji Jiji Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:20:00 - [10] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: I agree. Please, if anyone can, name one weapon IRL which can accurately fire over 500 goddamn meters! M24. Effective range listed at 800m with 7.62+ù51mm round. With 8.58+ù70 mm it's 1500m. AK-74. Effective at 600m. Minigun. 1000m. We done?

Joey-Number1 Maniacal Miners INC The Omega Industries 32	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:30:00 - [11] - Quote This is sci-fi not our world in this age... there could be weapons that fires 10 kilometers straight especially railgun based technology....
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1915	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:33:00 - [12] - Quote Charge sniper rifles are far too good for level 2, that's for sure. I SUCK at sniping, yet I can easily get 10-20 kills in a match with my charge sniper. Or you shouldn't be able to hold the charge indefinitely, if you hold it too long it should expend the shot and overheat the gun for a little while.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 768	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:37:00 - [13] - Quote I see what you did there.

Syther Shadows CowTek 7	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:38:00 - [14] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Charge sniper rifles are far too good for level 2, that's for sure. I SUCK at sniping, yet I can easily get 10-20 kills in a match with my charge sniper. Or you shouldn't be able to hold the charge indefinitely, if you hold it too long it should expend the shot and overheat the gun for a little while. even with changes to the gun its simple aiming at a target and keeping your cross hair on that players head even CODBLACKOPS players can do that (not that there bad but.....) if they don't fix sniping then ill just sit there all day long sniping racking up wp and over all taking from the community that has so much potential
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1916	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:41:00 - [15] - Quote When people get to comfy with their snipers, I crush them with my dropship
Syther Shadows CowTek 7	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:46:00 - [16] - Quote Herrick Arcos wrote: I can't help but agree with all these points and thereby conclude that the cake is both alive, and a lie. My argument is thus, 1. (A v B) GÇó (~Z GÇó B) 2. ~A 3. B GÇó ~Z \ X i agree with this 100X just to state this was just for fun i wanted to see how people reacted and i must say i am really happy this community be it still in open beta is a good one they respected my opinion they did not say i was wrong just for stating something that i personally think is basically ignorant and naive this game is based of skill not luck keep in mind any one who posts against me after this either thinks sniping needs to be Nerfed or removed or they saw my first comment and instantly rage reply'd wish i had more time to headshot
Tiluvo Digital Mercs 10	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:47:00 - [17] - Quote Yesterday I read that snipers are all useless and deserve to be suicide-bombed by their own teammates. Now they dominate the game and are OP? Wow, dust forumites, you really motivated those snipers to be helpful. Only 24 hours and they're winning games solo. Ooh, ooh, yell and threaten to blow me up next. I need some motivation to get enough SP for proto-logi.
Panther Alpha Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 46	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:49:00 - [18] - Quote You reference to "other" shooting games is irrelevant : http://www.geforce.com/Active/en_US/shared/images/guides/lag-guide/lag-5.jpg Most shooter games have bullet drop, recoil, and scope movement when aiming in any stance ( Prone ), most of them even have a "Hold you breath" button, to steady you aim for few seconds. Dust 514, have none of those.
Syther Shadows CowTek 7	Posted - 2013.02.27 09:53:00 - [19] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: You reference to "other" shooting games is irrelevant : http://www.geforce.com/Active/en_US/shared/images/guides/lag-guide/lag-5.jpg Most shooter games have bullet drop, recoil, and scope movement when aiming in any stance ( Prone ), most of them even have a "Hold you breath" button, to steady you aim for few seconds. Dust 514, have none of those. just chocolate goodness my friend nothing more but i don't think we need to talk about sniping in cod or bf2 >...< bf2 felt so smooth then i was playing it but the sniper was just to good at doing all round everything but capping points especially in hard core mode
Full Metal Kitten Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 154	Posted - 2013.02.27 11:16:00 - [20] - Quote Snipers are not OP. You will adapt.

Rei Shepard Spectre II 72	Posted - 2013.02.27 11:20:00 - [21] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: I agree. Please, if anyone can, name one weapon IRL which can accurately fire over 500 goddamn meters! No? Nothing. Exactly. Now imagine that same impossibility, but your arms are made of metal. It's ridiculous. Sniper rifles should be removed from play and people with skills in sniping have their experience automatically put into sensor upgrades so they can actually help their team. Can you name all the battleships & cruisers we got lying around our planet ? No? Nothing. Exactly. Snipers are fine, if you go out in the open, have a plan where to walk instead of straight lining it somewhere and asking to be shot.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 214	Posted - 2013.02.27 11:24:00 - [22] - Quote yea um no. I HATE snipers but I would not have them removed. That said you are riught the sniping mechanic needs some work, travle time and bullet drop would be good place to start.
Vin Vicious Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2013.02.27 11:25:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: I see what you did there. The funniest part? 2 pages and no one has noticed. i will admit i didnt notice it the first time though
Panther Alpha Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 46	Posted - 2013.02.27 11:28:00 - [24] - Quote Vin Vicious wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: I see what you did there. The funniest part? 2 pages and not a single person has noticed. i will admit i didnt notice it the first time though I notice, and i still think that is irrelevant , or stupid... pick one.
KalOfTheRathi CowTek 169	Posted - 2013.02.27 11:40:00 - [25] - Quote I don't agree. If, and that is a very big IF, CCP fixes the Hit Box Detection Bug then Snipers will start dropping like flies. I don't know if the problem is Can they fix it versus Will they fix it or When they might fix it. But, most players don't understand it. They just get into Rage and post on the Forums in cute QQ posts of their horrible experience with invincible Snipers with their flashing shields while receiving no damage. Anyone can get around it if they understand the problem. The Hit Box doesn't accurately match the 3D-model of the Sniper (or anyone else probably). Aim a little high and just half the pip to the left. Dead Sniper. It takes some practice but it pays off. The Hit Box is slightly off (to the left I believe) and can be worse if you are facing their side. Test it, practice it and watch their Deaths climb. When running with one or two of my regular Squads. They just go on a Sniper hunt, killing most if not all and chasing the rest away. If we recognize them from the Player List then Sniper Hunting is priority one. Hunt, Kill, watch +50 appear and nobody is around to save their clones including their pricy rifles. My weapon of choice is a Large Rail Gun. They stay out of sight after a series of rounds popping around them. Splash damage is great if I cannot actually pop them directly. And a LRG head shot is a wonderful thing to pull off. The biggest problem DUST has is Blues not getting into Squads if one considers not having a mic as normal New Berry behavior. Run a Squad, set commands, collect the commissions and drop and OB on the a group of Snipers. Good Times.
Soozu 5o1st 4	Posted - 2013.02.27 12:04:00 - [26] - Quote The answer to the sniper problem is having your own snipers hunt snipers. That way snipers have their own sniping sniper battles. Anyway, any squad / team who lacks a basic element or counter to that element will suffer at the hands of said element. Soozu
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 399	Posted - 2013.02.27 12:55:00 - [27] - Quote I'm pretty sure I killed you at Ar distance using a sniper yesterday
Kaeralli Sturmovos KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 117	Posted - 2013.02.27 13:02:00 - [28] - Quote snipers are not OP we just need more maps where there isnt an incentive to hide like cowards in unreachable safe zones on the map, would like to see some useable buildings and indoor maps or where the terrain isnt 100% bowl shaped so that snipers have the vantage point at all times.
The Dragon Ascendant Algintal Core Gallente Federation 102	Posted - 2013.02.27 13:35:00 - [29] - Quote Vin Vicious wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: I see what you did there. The funniest part? 2 pages and no one has noticed. i will admit i didnt notice it the first time though Aw man, I was about ready to come into this thread and laugh at this guy for such a stupid suggestion, but now I see what he's done and I realise it's just a massive troll. Such a shame, I had the perfect response lined up and everything.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 317	Posted - 2013.02.27 14:14:00 - [30] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Charge sniper rifles are far too good for level 2, that's for sure. I SUCK at sniping, yet I can easily get 10-20 kills in a match with my charge sniper. Or you shouldn't be able to hold the charge indefinitely, if you hold it too long it should expend the shot and overheat the gun for a little while. I sorta agree with this only a little stronger. I think 1 of 2 things need to be done to the sniper rifle. #1 Give bullets travel time so you have to lead the target appropriately for speed and distance (IE no hit scan mechanic for sniper rifles). #2 If you dont want to do #1 or if #1 is too difficult to pull off then change all sniper rifles to charged sniper rifles that CANNOT hold a charge period. IE in order to hit someone you have to start the charge such that when the charge is done and the gun it fired the crosshairs were on your target or you have to keep your crosshairs on your target for the length of the charge either of these would gain you a hit on that enemy based on this mechanic. By not being able to hold a charge you essentially give the sniper rifles something similar to bullet travel. I dont know how fast the charge is right now but you can even make the charge pretty fast as long as its not instantaneous it would force snipers to show some level of skill as my militia sniper with no skills at all is crazy powerful since I can crouch and get 0 sway after half a second.



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