Thukkers are silly. Why can't we buy them with ISK? Now they are just AUR? Really? Lame CCP.

Anyway, yeah, they either need to go or they need to be available in some format to everyone. I have plenty of AUR and thukkers are awesome. Then again, that's the problem.

400 000 aur / 15 = 26 666

lulz, yeah, that IS sort of the issue

I know they are only accessible via a merc pack (and if I understood the new post in the announcements section, for 15 AUR a piece in the marketplace), but they are not right for this game. They need to be replaced by something else.

Basically fused grenades make possible grenade spamming similar to that of a month ago, but on steroids. Panic grenades are insta-death if you've taken any damage at all, you cannot run from them, with a nanohive or supply depot you have what equates to a mass driver that does 400~600ish damage (don't recall the exact damage off hand), that doesn't have to be reloaded, is easier to aim, and doesn't even take up a weapon slot.

In addition, I think thukker grenades need to stay in the past for the same reasons.



In the case that they are not removed, the splash should be reduced to around .5 meters. You get almost a direct hit, fine, it auto explodes and auto-kills. But only if you are a REALLY good shot with it.



And while we are on the topic of grenades, I think the grenade indicator needs a LOT of work.



Lastly, no, I'm not some noob who got killed by one and is crying OP. I've been in this game for over 6 months now, and after seeing the announcement about fused grenades being AUR bought for the next week, I decided something needed to be said.

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Well there only Aururm and most people don't pay for this game. I know i do but i am not buying those grenades i personnaly like the regular grenades because i can then cook them untill they explode.

EDIT: ok after read all the posts. I don't have problem with fused nade in general.
After read some of your replies, I'm not sure if you are either. So you want it to be removed from the game or you want it to be available in isk so everyone can happily spam it ?? You can only choose one here. those two are entirely different issue.

Who ever has the most ISK wins, that is the new Eden way is it not?

Wasn't the pack changed since last reset where it just gave you regular locus nades now?

IMO a way to nerf it is to have it only go off if it directly hits someone :D

No Iron Wolf Saber, they are known as 'Core Locus' you get 50 of them and they are Thukkers just a different name and much lower CPU.PG needs.

Fused dont cook they blow up on impact with whatever they hit

I know they are only accessible via a merc pack (and if I understood the new post in the announcements section, for 15 AUR a piece in the marketplace), but they are not right for this game. They need to be replaced by something else.

Basically fused grenades make possible grenade spamming similar to that of a month ago, but on steroids. Panic grenades are insta-death if you've taken any damage at all, you cannot run from them, with a nanohive or supply depot you have what equates to a mass driver that does 400~600ish damage (don't recall the exact damage off hand), that doesn't have to be reloaded, is easier to aim, and doesn't even take up a weapon slot.

In addition, I think thukker grenades need to stay in the past for the same reasons.



In the case that they are not removed, the splash should be reduced to around .5 meters. You get almost a direct hit, fine, it auto explodes and auto-kills. But only if you are a REALLY good shot with it.



And while we are on the topic of grenades, I think the grenade indicator needs a LOT of work.



Lastly, no, I'm not some noob who got killed by one and is crying OP. I've been in this game for over 6 months now, and after seeing the announcement about fused grenades being AUR bought for the next week, I decided something needed to be said.

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If anyone has bought a merc pack and recieved the fused grenades,and used them to their enjoyment, those people have no gripes in my opinion. I have bought 2 merc packs and have used 0 of them.

QQ about grenades...

Again.

MOAR DEATH!

I'm sick of seeing a /0 after anyone's name on the end game screen.

The point of "easy mode" devices like Fused Grenades is that noobs remain a threat to the guy in a Proto suit with 6M SP and a 7.2 KDR.

Working As Intended.

Or the guy in the proto suit can run them and further grief noobs. Just saying this needs to be looked into, especially since they are now 15 AUR a piece

The guy in the Proto suit has more efficient ways of killing noobs that 15 AUR grenades that come in a two pack. Just about everybody with a KDR over 2.0 has better ways to grief than 15 AUR grenades.

I don't see a lot of "rookie" players complaining about grenades, I see a lot of "elite" players.

I havent used mine either until i read this thread and also bought 2 merc packs (value can't be beat really).

Took a suit, dropped down a gauged hive and went to town ....normally i get 5-8 pm's about being a hacker on PC shooters a day and i get to harvest some tears, so far on Dust i got 2 mails total or so.

1 game with Fused nade spam nets me 2 mails lol :p

Been a while since i harvested some tears.

I really have no issue with the Fused nade itself, but being able to spam em ontop a of a Nano hive or depot is a bit OP, coupled with a Proto Suit so i did not die at all and it lets me keep my nade.

Maybe they should change nades & hives and any deployable as expended the moment you throw/use them instead of only losing them on death. Makes sense afterall.

I throw AV grenades at the enemy. Half the time its a blast watching them duck and dive,than feeling duped

This proto suit guy begs to differ with both of your points. I underlined and emboldened the important part about the protosuit for you.

A) no complaints

B) griefed ppl with fused grenades

Thermal grenades- moderate bonus against shields, contact explosion, can kills, but reduced armor damage.

Pulse flux- half the radius of normal flux, 25% damage, but pulses 3-4 times over 6 seconds.

'Brutor' Grenade- Nuclear based, massive damage against shields, massive damage vs armor, 10.5m blast radius, causes temporarily blindness to any looking at the mushroom cloud. DoT is applied to anyone who survives. Leaves an on going AoE of radiated ground. Mutates clone DNA- chance of having SP randomly reallocated.

Locus nades are pay to win in their current iteration.

The fact that you have a instant nade that has the same effect as the previous locus nades prior to the contact fuse fix is a major problem and one the community has widely spoken on.


Im not against them being in the game but then they need to have a nerf in radius or damage. Perhaps even both. There needs to be a trade off for using a grenade that blows up on contact and isk/aur cost cant be that trade off as its not really a gameplay deterrant.

In fact now weapon, suit, module in this game should be attempted to be risk/reward adjusted using ISK/AUR as the adjustment factor as it isn't a true deterrent in the long run.

It will either create P2W or it will allow ISK rich corps to run a constant barage of gear that others simply couldnt match.

Balance for these things need to be created around weapon tradeoffs risk/reward not anything else.

So if a weapon has a benefit in one area it has to have a deficiency somewhere else.

Yep, that's basically what I'm trying to get across to people.

FYI...the fused nades on the Raider scout can only be used w/ that suit.

fuzed grenades: the lazy mans gernade

Emeril's guide how to learn to cook like a pro

BAM!!!