Either buff tanks or nerf Av, never both.

Why I want either or.

But a lot of the tank stuff needs fixed as well, regardless of buff\nerf.

Also marauders (which are battleship like) don't function using siege mode, the advantage from battleships to marauders in eve is their marginally increased utility, which in dust's case would mean adding 2 slots on both, one in low and high. Also the only problems with Av are with Av nades.

Tanks are fine, If people spend the ISK and SP into being an AV character then they should be good at what they do. The problem is the free anti-armour class that provides everyone with more than enough fire power to take out vehicles without any trouble or effort

Swarms are definitely frustrating against both tanks and dropships.
The AV nades though are the thing that is too powerful right now.
You are absolutely right about shield tanks, they take incredible amounts of damage from hitting anything. If you back into an LAV got help your hitpoints. Also the damage indicators in tanks is awful, it's very difficult to figure out where you got hit from or by what.

Swarm trails need to linger about twice as long and it'd be nice if there was some slight plasma trail thing for forge shots just so you could tell what direction you were hit from.
When turrets hit you it is also incredibly difficult to tell where the damage is coming from.

Oh snap! We are doing tanks now! Ok here goes. I think tanks should have a hover ability that automatically kicks on when they are near proximity mines so they don't get blown up. I think tanks should have an emp emitter that jams everyone's radar and cancels out av nades. But for balance it would have cool down period. I think av equip drop suits should show up special on the map like shaped like a tiger or something so you would know how to avoid them. I think tanks need a triple hp buff and need to be immune to orbital strikes. I think tanks need a damage buff for any and all weapons systems. I think anything that can harm a tank other than another tank should be nerfed. I think the ai on turrets should be dumbed down or not work at all because sometimes tankers don't pay attention and start driving directly at an unmanned rail gun and get blown up. I think tanks should have swarm counter missiles. To be fair it's a skill you would have to unlock. I also think tanks should have an increase in turrent turn speed or at least an auto locking feature that automatically chooses the biggest threat to the tank. Oh I've also noticed that sometimes people run up too close to them and they can't shoot them from inside the tank. So, maybe either some kind gas or or flame thrower ports around the tank so you can kill everyone in the tanks blind spots.

Wait a minute, if tanks shouldn't be able to killed solo shouldn't they have to have good gunners to defend from Av? And if they're not using gunners it would be a 1v1 scenario so if the tank is running solo it should be able to be killed solo.

The only Av problems are missiles that turn corners and Av nade's lock radius

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It's good that a tank can be scared away into the redline fairly quickly, with a coordinated AV effort.
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If someone is scaring your tank away OP, I can assure you that it was a team effort!

Tanks are fine

AV nades need to lose ther homing ability, its a cheap way for bad players to get hits on a vehicle because the game makes up for ther bad positioning - Instead the nade should blow up when it hits the vehicle this means the player would actually have to get into a good position and actually throw the nades at the vehicle and not over it or wide knowing that it would it it anyways

All milita AV weapons should have the damage chopped in half, so milita FG does 1200 it would be knocked down to 600 this would at least mean that they have to skill upto basic AV stuff

AV mines need to be more useful, i dont see anyone using them prob becauses AV nades are better

Flux nades need a nerf basic flux do 1200 shield damage

You obviously fail at tanking

I rarely get hit by these things because i gtfo quick

But if you need AV nades to home in because you cannot hit the tank then you are bad at the game

Milita AV is easy street, i do it all the time

AV mines are not used

Flux nades are easy street and way too powerful

Read the thread genius, but i guess that's too hard for an idiot such as you. I argued against the only REAL Av problems which are the homing DISTANCE of av nades amd swarm lainchers turning corners on a dime. I gathered this from being in a militia tank.

Noob

STB calling me noob when they need to drop in 3 tanks into an ambush

Looks like he needs his crutches this one does