The only problem is range to an extent.

I been saying this^ for weeks...... now you going to listen ?

Because you made it serm as if it was a major problem

As with everything you think is OP, try it out and see what it does to your KDR!

If you can come back with a significantly improved KDR, we can have a constructive discussion.

DUST has a feature called rock/paper/scissors. Not everything can be attacked as if it were an AR. Everything can be defeated, but it may require a different tactic than you would use against another AR user.

So try it out and see what counters everyone else has learned. You will die in ways you didn't anticipate and you can then use those tactics against the weapon user you were having trouble with.

man, just get some skill points, upgrade right skills and learn how to play

For assault:
At start - each heavy guy is problem for you
After 1 000 000 skill points - heavys is almost not problem, if you keep distance
After 2 000 000 skill points - most of heavys is no problem
After 3 000 000 skill points - most of them cry when meet you, except really skilled heavys, who really know why they choosed heavy class

Heavys is highly-specialized class. Yes it is beginner friendly class, but in the future most of them will regret about this choice and will change the way of upgrades.

Balance is good now. Close range - heavy have advantage, Long range - heavy is almost defenceless.

So use brain and dont cry on forum, nothing personal, just tired by cryers.

Another troll that can't read ..... "305 hp shield", "GEK", "Killing them at range"

Ohhh and btw i have nearly 2,000,000 SP, and heavies STILL are a problem.

Another troll that can't read ..... "305 hp shield", "GEK", "Killing them at range"

Ohhh and btw i have nearly 2,000,000 SP, and heavies STILL are a problem.

Another troll that can't read ..... "305 hp shield", "GEK", "Killing them at range"

Ohhh and btw i have nearly 2,000,000 SP, and heavies STILL are a problem.

They should just call it dust 514 paintball. Everyone wants whatever they don't frequently use nurf fed and everything they do use buffed. I think they should make all weapons have a 70% chance of exploding in your hands. That way the only thing people will be worried about is pulling their own trigger. The game is pretty balanced just leave it alone.

...and this is supposed to translate into a heavy NOT killing you because...?



You are an assault, the easiest class to play, with an assault rifle, the easiest weapon to use.
At low skill levels you are barely vulnerable, at high skill levels you are nearly unbeatable.
Yes, the easiest class to play, when skilled up, is also the most powerful class to play.

You have speed comparable to a scout. You have shields and armor HP totals, that when leveled up, is on par with even mid-level heavies.
Your assault rifle has next-to-nonexistent sway and kick.
You have an instantaneously stone-statue-still ADS.
Your assault rifle has dps so high that it doesn't matter if you're shooting a target that's beyond your already laughably far optimal range; if the bullets can touch that person, that person is dead.
Your gun fires 2-3 bullets for the price of one, so it's actually a mini burst rifle automatically. (Go ahead and tap your trigger and see.)
You can fire your gun indiscriminately without penalty. Your weapon does not overheat, you have no chance of accidentally blowing yourself up, and your clip is almost as long as an SMGs.

Quite honestly, with all that going for you... you have no business complaining about heavies dominating CQC, and snipers dominating LRC, because everything in-between belongs to you.
You get pissed at a sniper, you run to his perch with a LAV or some other vehicle and kill him.
You get pissed at a heavy, you shoot him across a field or at a distance down a corridor, and some of your kind can even beat heavies in CQC.

And the ONLY thing that seems to slow you guys down when you're travelling in packs, is a barrage of flux grenades.
You have nothing to complain about, except the unreasonable nerf to the Breach and Tactical ARs.

So just bite the bullet, squad up with some of the more skilled assault players, and learn from them how to play your class; because honestly any kind of complaints coming from your kind, imho, is whining and tantamount to trolling.

...and this is supposed to translate into a heavy NOT killing you because...?



You are an assault, the easiest class to play, with an assault rifle, the easiest weapon to use.
At low skill levels you are barely vulnerable, at high skill levels you are nearly unbeatable.
Yes, the easiest class to play, when skilled up, is also the most powerful class to play.

You have speed comparable to a scout. You have shields and armor HP totals, that when leveled up, is on par with even mid-level heavies.
Your assault rifle has next-to-nonexistent sway and kick.
You have an instantaneously stone-statue-still ADS.
Your assault rifle has dps so high that it doesn't matter if you're shooting a target that's beyond your already laughably far optimal range; if the bullets can touch that person, that person is dead.
Your gun fires 2-3 bullets for the price of one, so it's actually a mini burst rifle automatically. (Go ahead and tap your trigger and see.)
You can fire your gun indiscriminately without penalty. Your weapon does not overheat, you have no chance of accidentally blowing yourself up, and your clip is almost as long as an SMGs.

Quite honestly, with all that going for you... you have no business complaining about heavies dominating CQC, and snipers dominating LRC, because everything in-between belongs to you.
You get pissed at a sniper, you run to his perch with a LAV or some other vehicle and kill him.
You get pissed at a heavy, you shoot him across a field or at a distance down a corridor, and some of your kind can even beat heavies in CQC.

And the ONLY thing that seems to slow you guys down when you're travelling in packs, is a barrage of flux grenades.
You have nothing to complain about, except the unreasonable nerf to the Breach and Tactical ARs.

So just bite the bullet, squad up with some of the more skilled assault players, and learn from them how to play your class; because honestly any kind of complaints coming from your kind, imho, is whining and tantamount to trolling.

Just make them turn slower

Troll as much as you want, but you know is true.

Couldn't agree more. I use an assault rifle, I even put an assault rifle on a type II heavy suit and run around with that occasionally. The snipers that are safe from me are also often useless or easy to avoid. If I catch a heavy off guard, even at close range I still have a decent chance of killing them. Scouts melt like butter to hip fire at close range. When my squad is moving together as a pack with multiple assault rifles only a tank or well coordinated enemy squad will slow us down.

My deaths are mistakes, not the result of game imbalances. I ran into too many enemies alone. I took the risk of facing down a heavy at close range. I stupidly chased a scout with a shotgun around a corner.

The HMG is getting ridiculous... they starting to get instant kills all the time now.

They kill me in 0.50 seconds all the time, and i running 305 hp shield, in my tier II assault suit. And trying to kill them from range doesn't work, because their range is starting to match my GEK too.

I been trying to stick to my assault dropsuit, but is starting to feel pointless at this point.

Troll as much as you want, but you know is true.

The HMG is getting ridiculous... they starting to get instant kills all the time now.

They kill me in 0.50 seconds all the time, and i running 305 hp shield, in my tier II assault suit. And trying to kill them from range doesn't work, because their range is starting to match my GEK too.

I been trying to stick to my assault dropsuit, but is starting to feel pointless at this point.

Troll as much as you want, but you know is true.

You are at wrong range ? Use laser from 70m up or shot gun it the face and if you scout there is no chance they will kill you ass log you are not in front of them ,heavy turn too slow

So you saying that playing as an assault clone is useless ? and i should be playing as another class ?

CCP remove the AR and assault dropsuit, because is not point on using them any more. Thanks.

...and this is supposed to translate into a heavy NOT killing you because...?



You are an assault, the easiest class to play, with an assault rifle, the easiest weapon to use.
At low skill levels you are barely vulnerable, at high skill levels you are nearly unbeatable.
Yes, the easiest class to play, when skilled up, is also the most powerful class to play.

You have speed comparable to a scout. You have shields and armor HP totals, that when leveled up, is on par with even mid-level heavies.
Your assault rifle has next-to-nonexistent sway and kick.
You have an instantaneously stone-statue-still ADS.
Your assault rifle has dps so high that it doesn't matter if you're shooting a target that's beyond your already laughably far optimal range; if the bullets can touch that person, that person is dead.
Your gun fires 2-3 bullets for the price of one, so it's actually a mini burst rifle automatically. (Go ahead and tap your trigger and see.)
You can fire your gun indiscriminately without penalty. Your weapon does not overheat, you have no chance of accidentally blowing yourself up, and your clip is almost as long as an SMGs.

Quite honestly, with all that going for you... you have no business complaining about heavies dominating CQC, and snipers dominating LRC, because everything in-between belongs to you.
You get pissed at a sniper, you run to his perch with a LAV or some other vehicle and kill him.
You get pissed at a heavy, you shoot him across a field or at a distance down a corridor, and some of your kind can even beat heavies in CQC.

And the ONLY thing that seems to slow you guys down when you're travelling in packs, is a barrage of flux grenades.
You have nothing to complain about, except the unreasonable nerf to the Breach and Tactical ARs.

So just bite the bullet, squad up with some of the more skilled assault players, and learn from them how to play your class; because honestly any kind of complaints coming from your kind, imho, is whining and tantamount to trolling.

Every new guy i see now, plays assault for one battle, then starts a new character as a heavy, because they get vaporize by them almost instantly. ( True Story )

You are an assault, the easiest class to play, with an assault rifle, the easiest weapon to use.
At low skill levels you are barely vulnerable, at high skill levels you are nearly unbeatable.
Yes, the easiest class to play, when skilled up, is also the most powerful class to play.

You have speed comparable to a scout. You have shields and armor HP totals, that when leveled up, is on par with even mid-level heavies.
Your assault rifle has next-to-nonexistent sway and kick.
You have an instantaneously stone-statue-still ADS.
Your assault rifle has dps so high that it doesn't matter if you're shooting a target that's beyond your already laughably far optimal range; if the bullets can touch that person, that person is dead.
Your gun fires 2-3 bullets for the price of one, so it's actually a mini burst rifle automatically. (Go ahead and tap your trigger and see.)
You can fire your gun indiscriminately without penalty. Your weapon does not overheat, you have no chance of accidentally blowing yourself up, and your clip is almost as long as an SMGs.

Quite honestly, with all that going for you... you have no business complaining about heavies dominating CQC, and snipers dominating LRC, because everything in-between belongs to you.
You get pissed at a sniper, you run to his perch with a LAV or some other vehicle and kill him.
You get pissed at a heavy, you shoot him across a field or at a distance down a corridor, and some of your kind can even beat heavies in CQC.

And the ONLY thing that seems to slow you guys down when you're travelling in packs, is a barrage of flux grenades.
You have nothing to complain about, except the unreasonable nerf to the Breach and Tactical ARs.

So just bite the bullet, squad up with some of the more skilled assault players, and learn from them how to play your class; because honestly any kind of complaints coming from your kind, imho, is whining and tantamount to trolling.

Do you guys even "read" things before you answer ?

I could use a heavy my self with a Forge gun.... true. But I USING AN ASSAULT DROPSUIT BECAUSE I WANT TOO!!

I shouldn't need to OP my self because IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN PLAY THE GAME.

At this rate is going to be Heavies V's Heavies, with snipers trying to kill them from 5 miles away. Fun game huh?

...and this is supposed to translate into a heavy NOT killing you because...?



You are an assault, the easiest class to play, with an assault rifle, the easiest weapon to use.
At low skill levels you are barely vulnerable, at high skill levels you are nearly unbeatable.
Yes, the easiest class to play, when skilled up, is also the most powerful class to play.

You have speed comparable to a scout. You have shields and armor HP totals, that when leveled up, is on par with even mid-level heavies.
Your assault rifle has next-to-nonexistent sway and kick.
You have an instantaneously stone-statue-still ADS.
Your assault rifle has dps so high that it doesn't matter if you're shooting a target that's beyond your already laughably far optimal range; if the bullets can touch that person, that person is dead.
Your gun fires 2-3 bullets for the price of one, so it's actually a mini burst rifle automatically. (Go ahead and tap your trigger and see.)
You can fire your gun indiscriminately without penalty. Your weapon does not overheat, you have no chance of accidentally blowing yourself up, and your clip is almost as long as an SMGs.

Quite honestly, with all that going for you... you have no business complaining about heavies dominating CQC, and snipers dominating LRC, because everything in-between belongs to you.
You get pissed at a sniper, you run to his perch with a LAV or some other vehicle and kill him.
You get pissed at a heavy, you shoot him across a field or at a distance down a corridor, and some of your kind can even beat heavies in CQC.

And the ONLY thing that seems to slow you guys down when you're travelling in packs, is a barrage of flux grenades.
You have nothing to complain about, except the unreasonable nerf to the Breach and Tactical ARs.

So just bite the bullet, squad up with some of the more skilled assault players, and learn from them how to play your class; because honestly any kind of complaints coming from your kind, imho, is whining and tantamount to trolling.

man, just get some skill points, upgrade right skills and learn how to play

For assault:
At start - each heavy guy is problem for you
After 1 000 000 skill points - heavys is almost not problem, if you keep distance
After 2 000 000 skill points - most of heavys is no problem
After 3 000 000 skill points - most of them cry when meet you, except really skilled heavys, who really know why they choosed heavy class

Heavys is highly-specialized class. Yes it is beginner friendly class, but in the future most of them will regret about this choice and will change the way of upgrades.

Balance is good now. Close range - heavy have advantage, Long range - heavy is almost defenceless.

So use brain and dont cry on forum, nothing personal, just tired by cryers.

The HMG is getting ridiculous... they starting to get instant kills all the time now.

They kill me in 0.50 seconds all the time, and i running 305 hp shield, in my tier II assault suit. And trying to kill them from range doesn't work, because their range is starting to match my GEK too.

I been trying to stick to my assault dropsuit, but is starting to feel pointless at this point.

Troll as much as you want, but you know is true.

+1

If run right at a heavy 1 on 1 in close quarters u will die everytime dude. U think heavys are easy and that the dudes who play as them are just lucky scrubs who killed you because there gun is OP. HMM I know alot of heavys and they have assault caracters and they kick @ass wiht it as well. Skill up your dude and learn better tacktics. My heavy and other heavys will die if you do the right things.