DUST Search - So what's the point of the HMG?

XeroTheBigBoss wrote:

Psi R wrote:

An assault rifle deals more DPS (a lot more in fact, especially at higher tiers), costs less and is less skillpoint intensive. The fact that it has a smaller magazine is mitigated by the fact that the AR has better range AND accuracy.

If the HMG at least had any AV use, but it can hardly dent a LAV...

So what's the point of HMG's again?

I agree with you, the HMG are so damn UP! You should be able to use the HMG like a jet pack and shoot lightning bolts and fireballs out of it. All fireballs should have ATLEAST 500 splash damage. Only the same amount of range as a Assault Rifle with deadly accurate shots to match the AR in a gun fight? Screw that gimme Laser or sniper rifle range! Let's get HMG buffed please I am tired of them being so weak and never allowing me to push objectives with 1 or 2 more heavys.

Also what is with our weak armor? I can only take like 2-3 clips I am supposed to be the Terminator with my HMG I should ATLEAST have 20k HP with 100k Shields CCP please stop ignoring Heavy and HMGers show THEM (TROLLED) some respect!

EDIT- Please let our HMGs wreck Proto tanks too, thanks!

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Vin Vicious Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:40:00 - [61] - Quote im tired of answering these whiny threads about guns, so im gunna keep it short. HMG is support class, go into any match with two-three heavies running around WITH THEIR TEAM and they'll win that match. dont base their roles on a typical pubby match, considering they are usually always one sided ( caused by 6-8 snipers doing nothing for the team.)
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 642	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:40:00 - [62] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: You need to take your own advice and HTFU and stop crying about spool time. Last I heard it has been confirmed in IRC. EDIT-LOL chicago stop ranting about sammiches. I found my pen if you still want me to sign your HMG. lol good one....confirmation in IRC... I'll wait and see that. If CCP does that I'm done with this game, as they would have shown they listen to crybabies. "WAAAAA THE HMG NEED SPOOL TIME... but hey, I'm a beast player!" lol
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:43:00 - [63] - Quote I'll QQ about whatever I want thank you very much, it might actually get something done, just like all those other QQ threads have apparently convinced CCP to nerf the HMG.
Vin Vicious Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:46:00 - [64] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: I'll QQ about whatever I want thank you very much, it might actually get something done, just like all those other QQ threads have apparently convinced CCP to nerf the HMG. cool, you whiners will get the game changed so much, it wont even be DUST 514 anymore, itll be WHINE 247
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:46:00 - [65] - Quote Psi R wrote: An assault rifle deals more DPS (a lot more in fact, especially at higher tiers), costs less and is less skillpoint intensive. The fact that it has a smaller magazine is mitigated by the fact that the AR has better range AND accuracy. If the HMG at least had any AV use, but it can hardly dent a LAV... So what's the point of HMG's again? So is your problem that AR's have more range? Or that they are more accurate? Because HMGs out DPS ARs 10/10 if you can hit with at least half of the shots... I think your problem lies with you running out of cover, not using the HMG in its optimal range, and overall just being bad at the game.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:47:00 - [66] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: You need to take your own advice and HTFU and stop crying about spool time. Last I heard it has been confirmed in IRC. EDIT-LOL chicago stop ranting about sammiches. I found my pen if you still want me to sign your HMG. lol good one....confirmation in IRC... I'll wait and see that. If CCP does that I'm done with this game, as they would have shown they listen to crybabies. "WAAAAA THE HMG NEED SPOOL TIME... but hey, I'm a beast player!" lol Can I have your stuff at least? Half a second spool time and a 5% range nerf will not break the HMG. The good heavies will be fine. Its not even that big of a nerf compared to what ccp did to the creadron AR.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:54:00 - [67] - Quote Vin Vicious wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: I'll QQ about whatever I want thank you very much, it might actually get something done, just like all those other QQ threads have apparently convinced CCP to nerf the HMG. cool, you whiners will get the game changed so much, it wont even be DUST 514 anymore, itll be WHINE 247 You whiners? Hey if If my HMG gets nerfed, then why shouldn't everything else? because I guarantee you that's where this game is going if CCP keeps listening to the QQers, which you seem to think I'm a part of for some reason.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 72	Posted - 2013.02.22 22:01:00 - [68] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: You need to take your own advice and HTFU and stop crying about spool time. Last I heard it has been confirmed in IRC. EDIT-LOL chicago stop ranting about sammiches. I found my pen if you still want me to sign your HMG. lol good one....confirmation in IRC... I'll wait and see that. If CCP does that I'm done with this game, as they would have shown they listen to crybabies. "WAAAAA THE HMG NEED SPOOL TIME... but hey, I'm a beast player!" lol Can I have your stuff at least? Half a second spool time and a 5% range nerf will not break the HMG. The good heavies will be fine. Its not even that big of a nerf compared to what ccp did to the creadron AR. The good ones will keep it pre-spooled at all times or at least whenever they feel it is needed, the bad ones will start to spool it after taking hits to the face. Its like the bad Forge -Gunners, after a 2s charge up they abandon it because you've hit em with 2 rounds and just press em hard enough they switch to flee mode. Edit: just saying, i have no issues with how it is right now, but if they buff or nerf it i don't mind eitherway.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 22	Posted - 2013.02.23 11:57:00 - [69] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Being nerfed to crap, apparently By scrubs that are one-dimensional.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 22	Posted - 2013.02.23 11:58:00 - [70] - Quote trollsroyce wrote: Suppress ppl in a corner with it and throw a grenade there. Fun :) The only gun that can surpass a HMG suppress spray is forge gun. Forge guns are awesome. Did you like that orbital I dropped on your head a few days ago?

fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 212	Posted - 2013.02.23 12:18:00 - [71] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Psi R wrote: An assault rifle deals more DPS (a lot more in fact, especially at higher tiers), costs less and is less skillpoint intensive. The fact that it has a smaller magazine is mitigated by the fact that the AR has better range AND accuracy. If the HMG at least had any AV use, but it can hardly dent a LAV... So what's the point of HMG's again? I agree with you, the HMG are so damn UP! You should be able to use the HMG like a jet pack and shoot lightning bolts and fireballs out of it. All fireballs should have ATLEAST 500 splash damage. Only the same amount of range as a Assault Rifle with deadly accurate shots to match the AR in a gun fight? Screw that gimme Laser or sniper rifle range! Let's get HMG buffed please I am tired of them being so weak and never allowing me to push objectives with 1 or 2 more heavys. Also what is with our weak armor? I can only take like 2-3 clips I am supposed to be the Terminator with my HMG I should ATLEAST have 20k HP with 100k Shields CCP please stop ignoring Heavy and HMGers show THEM (TROLLED) some respect! EDIT- Please let our HMGs wreck Proto tanks too, thanks! if its taking you more then a clip and a half to kill a heavy you suck, less then a clip well done sir.
James-5955 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 151	Posted - 2013.02.23 16:21:00 - [72] - Quote Lol.... Wow... HMG is pure pwnage, AR doesn't hold a candle if you use it correctly.. IE, point and shoot while staying within your optimal areas (CQC & mid range, obv). Hell, I've mowed down several people in a row with the HMG in my type II suit, the gun is ridiculous.. you can't kill that many people in one clip of AR. HMG is excellent for crowd control, run in there with a ton of HP like the walking tank you are, with a weapon that will tear up any suit within a second or two & has 500 shots before having to reload. It's beast, IDK what people are complaining about claiming that HMG is underpowered. Though I will admit, I think that AR on heavy is pretty beast, people keep claiming that it isn't great but I don't see what would be so bad about it.. play it like you would a defensive assault almost, keep the medium distance and use cover, only thing they can see is a portion of your body AND you have that much HP AND you have the ARs accuracy. IDK, guess I shouldn't knock it before I try it. I've got a heavy alt, and when I play him I laugh and realize how ridiculous I feel the HMG is. Buff it and I'll be switching to make my main my heavy xD & People trying to base weapon balance off of pub results is incredibly annoying. Some keep acting like a team of assault/AR is all you need to win, which I think is a lie. In an organized match the guys that use a variety of weapons & coordinate with each other would stomp a team full of assault/AR; easily. Oh, they're at laser range? Hey laser guy, melt them within 2 seconds. Ah, behind cover? Hey MD user... Oh they're close to the objective, send in the walking tank with the HMG & shotgunner. ARs are versatile, but against other competent players that know what they're doing they should be losing.
Hecarim Van Hohen Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 8	Posted - 2013.02.23 16:59:00 - [73] - Quote I would like to see comparison of Proto AR vs Proto HMG, DPS vs DPS HMG should be doing more dmg 10 out of 10 if I'm not mistaken in my calculations.
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2013.02.23 17:40:00 - [74] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: I'll QQ about whatever I want thank you very much, it might actually get something done, just like all those other QQ threads have apparently convinced CCP to nerf the HMG. HTFU
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2013.02.23 17:41:00 - [75] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: You need to take your own advice and HTFU and stop crying about spool time. Last I heard it has been confirmed in IRC. EDIT-LOL chicago stop ranting about sammiches. I found my pen if you still want me to sign your HMG. lol good one....confirmation in IRC... I'll wait and see that. If CCP does that I'm done with this game, as they would have shown they listen to crybabies. "WAAAAA THE HMG NEED SPOOL TIME... but hey, I'm a beast player!" lol Can I have your stuff at least? Half a second spool time and a 5% range nerf will not break the HMG. The good heavies will be fine. Its not even that big of a nerf compared to what ccp did to the creadron AR. Half a second is all it takes to kill a heavy with a GEK. Spoolup time is dumb.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.23 17:50:00 - [76] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: You need to take your own advice and HTFU and stop crying about spool time. Last I heard it has been confirmed in IRC. EDIT-LOL chicago stop ranting about sammiches. I found my pen if you still want me to sign your HMG. lol good one....confirmation in IRC... I'll wait and see that. If CCP does that I'm done with this game, as they would have shown they listen to crybabies. "WAAAAA THE HMG NEED SPOOL TIME... but hey, I'm a beast player!" lol Can I have your stuff at least? Half a second spool time and a 5% range nerf will not break the HMG. The good heavies will be fine. Its not even that big of a nerf compared to what ccp did to the creadron AR. Half a second is all it takes to kill a heavy with a GEK. Spoolup time is dumb. Even with a duvolle and complex damage mods it takes about 2-3 seconds to kill a heavy. Just keep it spooled up.
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 29	Posted - 2013.02.23 17:53:00 - [77] - Quote Heavy Machine GUns are heavy support platforms meant for Assaulting dug in positions. This is a team game, a support logistics keeps their repair tool on them, and meanwhile the Assault suits keep the heavies flanks clear. This is basic tactics. Get your head out of the COD mentality, and you might learn something.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 165	Posted - 2013.02.23 18:00:00 - [78] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: You need to take your own advice and HTFU and stop crying about spool time. Last I heard it has been confirmed in IRC. EDIT-LOL chicago stop ranting about sammiches. I found my pen if you still want me to sign your HMG. lol good one....confirmation in IRC... I'll wait and see that. If CCP does that I'm done with this game, as they would have shown they listen to crybabies. "WAAAAA THE HMG NEED SPOOL TIME... but hey, I'm a beast player!" lol Can I have your stuff at least? Half a second spool time and a 5% range nerf will not break the HMG. The good heavies will be fine. Its not even that big of a nerf compared to what ccp did to the creadron AR. Half a second is all it takes to kill a heavy with a GEK. Spoolup time is dumb. Even with a duvolle and complex damage mods it takes about 2-3 seconds to kill a heavy. Just keep it spooled up. Fixed: "Half a second headstart is all it takes to kill a heavy with a GEK, unless you suck. Spoolup time is dumb." And while keeping HMG spooled up in the old 1990s Alien vs Predator really added to the atmosphere, the heavy has enough issues with being big, slow, and easily seen. Adding in the non stop sound of a heavy having to keep there HMG spooled up would just just be the same as sticking a big flashing bulb on the heavy's head with a voice saying "fat f*** approaching, please throw your grenades here. Thank you, and enjoy your day"
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.23 18:09:00 - [79] - Quote There really is no reason to use an AR right now other the movement. Slap speed mods on a heavy and you have the ultimate tryhard rambo class. You might as well throw the AR in the trash with the range HMG has at sharpshooter V. Spool time will stop these people from turning this game into HMG RAMBO CoD 514. 80% of heavies play this game like rambo. Add mobility V on all these tryhard heavies and the game will be break. Its just a matter of time.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 165	Posted - 2013.02.23 19:01:00 - [80] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: There really is no reason to use an AR right now other the movement. Slap speed mods on a heavy and you have the ultimate tryhard rambo class. You might as well throw the AR in the trash with the range HMG has at sharpshooter V. Spool time will stop these people from turning this game into HMG RAMBO CoD 514. 80% of heavies play this game like rambo. Add mobility V on all these tryhard heavies and the game will be break. Its just a matter of time. I don't know. I think it'll be the introduction in the next expansion of roller blades for heavies that will break the game. There'll be no hiding from them then. Cue a heavy grinding along a rail while tearing up everyone below. It'll be terrible carnage

Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.23 19:36:00 - [81] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: I'll QQ about whatever I want thank you very much, it might actually get something done, just like all those other QQ threads have apparently convinced CCP to nerf the HMG. HTFU . . . lol
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 212	Posted - 2013.02.24 00:24:00 - [82] - Quote spool time are the stupidest thing known to man, how about some situational awareness. The HMG is like the LR in that DPS builds up....... unless the heavy sticks his gun up your pooper, in which case you deserve the instadeath.


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