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Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.22 17:02:00 - [1] - Quote http://youtu.be/XlOTm64A9nc This thread in a nutshell^ Also this... http://youtu.be/3Rrng_WmV9I
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:23:00 - [2] - Quote Fornacis Fairchild wrote: Its group support providing "Spray and Pray". The problem is there are to many idiots that think it should be a rambo/slayer class. Spool time will put the herpy derps in their place.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:42:00 - [3] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Fornacis Fairchild wrote: Its group support providing "Spray and Pray". The problem is there are to many idiots that think it should be a rambo/slayer class. Spool time will put the herpy derps in their place. So having a spool time on a CQC weapon makes sense? By that logic shotguns also need a "spool time" by means of charging before they shoot no? Spool time means a ranged weapon, so in that case, give the Assault HMG a spool time, but decrease spread and increase dmg. The spool time will force HMG users to play the objective. The range nerf will help enforce it. The HMG should not be rambo class with the same range as an AR. Spool time without a range nerf and you will see lots of heavies camping table top with sharpshooter V. Range nerf without spool time and we will still have rambos with HMG. Range nerf and spool time will put HMG users where they should be.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.22 19:13:00 - [4] - Quote myBad Furry wrote: Psi R wrote: An assault rifle deals more DPS (a lot more in fact, especially at higher tiers), costs less and is less skillpoint intensive. The fact that it has a smaller magazine is mitigated by the fact that the AR has better range AND accuracy. If the HMG at least had any AV use, but it can hardly dent a LAV... So what's the point of HMG's again? its to hold down a point with 1 - 2 guys in a closed room now stop crying. Lance I have seen you running around like rambo and I have punished you for doing it. Trying to act like you don't play the class outside of its role isn't going to stop the nerf hammer. Range nerf and spool time will force HMG users to play the objective. Right now HMG is the ultimate rambo class. My hmg alt has a 9 kdr and I don't even take my stats seriously on that account. I run around like rambo and wreck everyone. Keep defending HMGs though. You look incredibly foolish in my eyes. Thats almost double digit KDR and I didn't even have to try.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.22 19:29:00 - [5] - Quote You tried to 1 vs 1 me on my roof at my objective by yourself...(wasn't a good idea) Rambo much? Even if you do play your role as it should be most of the time that doesn't change the fact that 75% of HMG users run all over the map like rambo. Small range nerf+short spool up time will fix this. If you really do play HMG like it should be played then range nerf and spool time won't effect you anyways.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.22 19:54:00 - [6] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: it should be played And you have the right to dictate how it should be played why exactly? "It should be CQC weapon, so give it the range of an SMG", It does best in CQC, that doesn't make it a CQC weapon only, you're trying to force it to be one... and a useless one at that. All you want to do is turn HMG's into the next nova knives. The HMG is fine as is. No buffs, no nerfs, just leave it as is. Nerf the HMG and I will just switch over to an AR, or a shotgun for CQC. That seems to be what you want, everyone going around in ARs. No I want everyone running around with HMG in assualt/scout suits with no spool up time. Golf clap for lance* it only took you a few days to figure out I was trollolololing you. For real though, I was the only one that roof. No one wants hmgs to have smg range. 5-10% has been thrown around a lot. Sharpshooter V on the HMG is insane though.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:01:00 - [7] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: it should be played And you have the right to dictate how it should be played why exactly? "It should be CQC weapon, so give it the range of an SMG", It does best in CQC, that doesn't make it a CQC weapon only, you're trying to force it to be one... and a useless one at that. All you want to do is turn HMG's into the next nova knives. The HMG is fine as is. No buffs, no nerfs, just leave it as is. Nerf the HMG and I will just switch over to an AR, or a shotgun for CQC. That seems to be what you want, everyone going around in ARs. No I want everyone running around with HMG in assualt/scout suits with no spool up time. Golf clap for lance* it only took you a few days to figure out I was trollolololing you. For real though, I was the only one that roof. No, you weren't. I don't jump off roofs cuz I see 1 guy... Jane was below the building. You lost the gunfight and jumped off.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:16:00 - [8] - Quote That was me on the roof. She was swinging around the left side of the building to flank. You must have seen her name through the building and thought I was her. I JUMPED after you when you jumped off and killed you. I remember it like it was yesterday... Becuase it was. If you do play the hmg like it should then you should be fine with a spool time and small range nerf. Considering you will still able to hold tight areas and objectives.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:20:00 - [9] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Good Afternoon Boys and Girls, Please gather around so our good friend Bleeding Moon XLV can tell us all another story. Please don't interrupt him as his vivid imagination allows for him to paint quite the picture of his imaginary settings And NO MATTER WHAT do not contradict his fictional tales. He is prone to forgetting his meds and this will often send him over the deep end. Simply smile, nod your head, and allow the boy to spin his tales for the enjoyment off all! yes Lance... this means you too LOL I love my fans. Do you want me to sign your HMG?
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:22:00 - [10] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: That was me on the roof. She was swinging around the left side of the building to flank. You must have seen her name through the building and I was her. I JUMPED after you when you jumped off and killed you. I remember it like it was yesterday... Becuase it was. If you do play the hmg like it should then you should be fine with a spool time and small range. Considering you will still able to hold tight areas and objectives. If I thought it was only you there, you really think I would have jumped off if I saw an AR looking at me? Please. You're not that special...sorry to burst your bubble. If I died, which I do against proto AR's easy enough, I would have stood my ground at least. Spool time is a stupid idea, and CCP won't do it. I did have a proto AR and you didn't stand your ground Trollolol. <3 Denial is always fun. At least chicago admits to getting turned on by me. Spool time is a great idea and ccp will do it.

Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:31:00 - [11] - Quote You need to take your own advice and HTFU and stop crying about spool time. Last I heard it has been confirmed in IRC. EDIT-LOL chicago stop ranting about sammiches. I found my pen if you still want me to sign your HMG.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:47:00 - [12] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: You need to take your own advice and HTFU and stop crying about spool time. Last I heard it has been confirmed in IRC. EDIT-LOL chicago stop ranting about sammiches. I found my pen if you still want me to sign your HMG. lol good one....confirmation in IRC... I'll wait and see that. If CCP does that I'm done with this game, as they would have shown they listen to crybabies. "WAAAAA THE HMG NEED SPOOL TIME... but hey, I'm a beast player!" lol Can I have your stuff at least? Half a second spool time and a 5% range nerf will not break the HMG. The good heavies will be fine. Its not even that big of a nerf compared to what ccp did to the creadron AR.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.23 17:50:00 - [13] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: You need to take your own advice and HTFU and stop crying about spool time. Last I heard it has been confirmed in IRC. EDIT-LOL chicago stop ranting about sammiches. I found my pen if you still want me to sign your HMG. lol good one....confirmation in IRC... I'll wait and see that. If CCP does that I'm done with this game, as they would have shown they listen to crybabies. "WAAAAA THE HMG NEED SPOOL TIME... but hey, I'm a beast player!" lol Can I have your stuff at least? Half a second spool time and a 5% range nerf will not break the HMG. The good heavies will be fine. Its not even that big of a nerf compared to what ccp did to the creadron AR. Half a second is all it takes to kill a heavy with a GEK. Spoolup time is dumb. Even with a duvolle and complex damage mods it takes about 2-3 seconds to kill a heavy. Just keep it spooled up.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 187	Posted - 2013.02.23 18:09:00 - [14] - Quote There really is no reason to use an AR right now other the movement. Slap speed mods on a heavy and you have the ultimate tryhard rambo class. You might as well throw the AR in the trash with the range HMG has at sharpshooter V. Spool time will stop these people from turning this game into HMG RAMBO CoD 514. 80% of heavies play this game like rambo. Add mobility V on all these tryhard heavies and the game will be break. Its just a matter of time.

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