DUST Search - Proof that CCP is NOT working on PS4 port

Karl Koekwaus wrote:

2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:

Lol you guys make me laugh... I just wish it was a happy laugh....

Do you see Bungie on that list? no you dont. So if bungie is making Destiny for the ps4 and was AT the PS4 launch why are then not on the list?!

Because if your already doing development on the ps3 you dont have to have your name in for ps4 development.
Sony is not restricting companies from porting from ps3 to 4 for games in dev.

Activision Publishing, Inc. bungies publisher is on the list but for a Lab Zero, Inc game. But no bungie? so its not a complete list now is it?

It is Activision who publishes the game Bungie produces. Rockstar isn't on the list either, because they are part of Take-Two Interactive, EA sports nor EA Big are on the list either, but I do think Fifa 1x will be on the PS4, they're listed as their Publishing Company Electronic Arts Inc. I think they took a bit of creative liberty to shorten it a bit, else they would need to list all studios producing stuff for it, and than it's gonna be too long of a list.

Yet CCP is an independent Production and Publishing company, so yes, me too was a bit surprised to see CCP missing on the list.

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Kovinis Sparagas Final Fortress Happy Tree Fiends 58	Posted - 2013.02.21 12:17:00 - [1] - Quote I found this - a complete list of all ps4 third party developers and publishers. And... sorry to say this, but there is no CCP on the list. EDIT: new sourse http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/news/20130221E.pdf you can see it's from sony.net No CCP still. A lot of Mercs are saying that this is not oficial, and this doesn't mean anything, so judge for your self what is true, and what is not.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 219	Posted - 2013.02.21 12:19:00 - [2] - Quote This is hardly an official Sony report.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 219	Posted - 2013.02.21 12:19:00 - [3] - Quote Accidental double post
Kovinis Sparagas Final Fortress Happy Tree Fiends 58	Posted - 2013.02.21 12:25:00 - [4] - Quote Django Quik wrote: This is hardly an official Sony report. It was officially retweeted by oficial Playstation twitter
trollsroyce Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 164	Posted - 2013.02.21 12:27:00 - [5] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: Django Quik wrote: This is hardly an official Sony report. It was officially retweeted by oficial Playstation twitter Damn that's official :o
JL3Eleven Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 131	Posted - 2013.02.21 12:30:00 - [6] - Quote Dude I've had the Email bug for 6 months. Are you surprised? inb4itsabeta
Rupture Reaperson Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2013.02.21 12:40:00 - [7] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: Django Quik wrote: This is hardly an official Sony report. It was officially retweeted by oficial Playstation twitter Oh no3s
2-Ton Twenty-One Imperfects Negative-Feedback 232	Posted - 2013.02.21 12:54:00 - [8] - Quote Lol you guys make me laugh... I just wish it was a happy laugh.... Do you see Bungie on that list? no you dont. So if bungie is making Destiny for the ps4 and was AT the PS4 launch why are then not on the list?! Because if your already doing development on the ps3 you dont have to have your name in for ps4 development. Sony is not restricting companies from porting from ps3 to 4 for games in dev. Activision Publishing, Inc. bungies publisher is on the list but for a Lab Zero, Inc game. But no bungie? so its not a complete list now is it?
Drommy Hood Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 242	Posted - 2013.02.21 13:00:00 - [9] - Quote Here: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18f9uk10m7fwfjpg/original.jpg
Drommy Hood Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 242	Posted - 2013.02.21 13:02:00 - [10] - Quote Drommy Hood wrote: Here: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18f9uk10m7fwfjpg/original.jpg It's evidence that nothing's been decided for ps4 launch at this point I'd say. Not to say that it won't, or that it will. But that at this time ccp has not said they they either want to/will have a title ready for ps4 launch. Or that they're not a big enough name to include.... But some of them iv bever heard of, so I hope that's not the case
Karl Koekwaus Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 30	Posted - 2013.02.21 13:22:00 - [11] - Quote 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: Lol you guys make me laugh... I just wish it was a happy laugh.... Do you see Bungie on that list? no you dont. So if bungie is making Destiny for the ps4 and was AT the PS4 launch why are then not on the list?! Because if your already doing development on the ps3 you dont have to have your name in for ps4 development. Sony is not restricting companies from porting from ps3 to 4 for games in dev. Activision Publishing, Inc. bungies publisher is on the list but for a Lab Zero, Inc game. But no bungie? so its not a complete list now is it? It is Activision who publishes the game Bungie produces. Rockstar isn't on the list either, because they are part of Take-Two Interactive, EA sports nor EA Big are on the list either, but I do think Fifa 1x will be on the PS4, they're listed as their Publishing Company Electronic Arts Inc. I think they took a bit of creative liberty to shorten it a bit, else they would need to list all studios producing stuff for it, and than it's gonna be too long of a list. Yet CCP is an independent Production and Publishing company, so yes, me too was a bit surprised to see CCP missing on the list.
2-Ton Twenty-One Imperfects Negative-Feedback 232	Posted - 2013.02.21 13:55:00 - [12] - Quote Karl Koekwaus wrote: 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: Lol you guys make me laugh... I just wish it was a happy laugh.... Do you see Bungie on that list? no you dont. So if bungie is making Destiny for the ps4 and was AT the PS4 launch why are then not on the list?! Because if your already doing development on the ps3 you dont have to have your name in for ps4 development. Sony is not restricting companies from porting from ps3 to 4 for games in dev. Activision Publishing, Inc. bungies publisher is on the list but for a Lab Zero, Inc game. But no bungie? so its not a complete list now is it? It is Activision who publishes the game Bungie produces. Rockstar isn't on the list either, because they are part of Take-Two Interactive, EA sports nor EA Big are on the list either, but I do think Fifa 1x will be on the PS4, they're listed as their Publishing Company Electronic Arts Inc. I think they took a bit of creative liberty to shorten it a bit, else they would need to list all studios producing stuff for it, and than it's gonna be too long of a list. Yet CCP is an independent Production and Publishing company, so yes, me too was a bit surprised to see CCP missing on the list. It states its a List of Third Party Game Developers and Publishers, and as such its missing a bunch of developers that dont fit that statement, because DUST 514 could be considered 2nd or 1st party published or even a independent developer as it is being developed as an exclusive PlayStation title. Case closed no matter how you cut it. It is not a complete list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_developer
Karl Koekwaus Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 30	Posted - 2013.02.21 14:51:00 - [13] - Quote 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: It states its a List of Third Party Game Developers and Publishers, and as such its missing a bunch of developers that dont fit that statement, because DUST 514 could be considered 2nd or 1st party published or even a independent developer as it is being developed as an exclusive PlayStation title. Case closed no matter how you cut it. It is not a complete list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_developer since CCP already published stuff on the PC and even has a boardgame it's no second party developer and since last time I heard CCP was not bought by Sony it's not an First Party either. CCP could be considered an Indie developer although CCP is owned by 2 investment companies, so they're not that independent anymore. I think the only way to get Dust on the PS4 is by the use of streaming, unless CCP has something nice to say.
Shep Lando Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2013.02.21 15:08:00 - [14] - Quote Karl Koekwaus wrote: 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: It states its a List of Third Party Game Developers and Publishers, and as such its missing a bunch of developers that dont fit that statement, because DUST 514 could be considered 2nd or 1st party published or even a independent developer as it is being developed as an exclusive PlayStation title. Case closed no matter how you cut it. It is not a complete list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_developer since CCP already published stuff on the PC and even has a boardgame it's no second party developer and since last time I heard CCP was not bought by Sony it's not an First Party either. CCP could be considered an Indie developer although CCP is owned by 2 investment companies, so they're not that independent anymore. I think the only way to get Dust on the PS4 is by the use of streaming, unless CCP has something nice to say. Streaming is certainly an option, but I'm sure their goal is to get it working natively on the hardware. As for that list, lol no. That is not an end all list, period.
Chruno 5om3 75th Airborne Task Force 1	Posted - 2013.02.21 16:03:00 - [15] - Quote Drommy Hood wrote: Drommy Hood wrote: Here: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18f9uk10m7fwfjpg/original.jpg It's evidence that nothing's been decided for ps4 launch at this point I'd say. Not to say that it won't, or that it will. But that at this time ccp has not said they they either want to/will have a title ready for ps4 launch. Or that they're not a big enough name to include.... But some of them iv bever heard of, so I hope that's not the case "Or that they're not a big enough name to include...." I'll let you in on a trade secret, friend. CCP makes EVE online.
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2013.02.21 16:39:00 - [16] - Quote this game will be easy to port from 1 playstation platform to the next, im sure the playstation OS will have a certain amount of backwards compatibility. The only thing i would worry about is still using the same game engine for the next 5 years, prepare to look at mud and crappy polygon counts mean while the unreal 5 engine comes out and has nut busting particle effects.
LXicon Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 54	Posted - 2013.02.21 16:46:00 - [17] - Quote Chruno 5om3 wrote: ... "Or that they're not a big enough name to include...." I'll let you in on a trade secret, friend. CCP makes EVE online. yes, but how many playstation games has CCP finished yet? -none. it's not a surpise that CCP wasn't on the list of developers because they haven't finished developing their first game for the PS3 yet. also, it's not a full list, it's a powerpoint slide. Q-Games isn't on the list either but i'm pretty sure there will be pixeljunk games on the PS4. --final edit-- what we should be happy about is the unreal4 tech demo. THAT says more about porting Dust514 to the PS4 than anything else.
Seamie Schmoove Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 64	Posted - 2013.02.21 17:13:00 - [18] - Quote Patience is a virtue seemingly lost on some people here as is sense. Why would they start developing a ps4 port of a game that hasn't even fully launched on the ps3. And that's if they even intend to do it anyway...
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.02.21 17:14:00 - [19] - Quote Odd CCP for the longest time was not mentioned as a 3rd party developer for the PS3 either.
Luke Vetri D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 48	Posted - 2013.02.21 17:32:00 - [20] - Quote EnIgMa99 wrote: this game will be easy to port from 1 playstation platform to the next, im sure the playstation OS will have a certain amount of backwards compatibility. The only thing i would worry about is still using the same game engine for the next 5 years, prepare to look at mud and crappy polygon counts mean while the unreal 5 engine comes out and has nut busting particle effects. They stated in the the event that there is no backward compatibility at all, that's direct compatibility, I think the streaming is the exception, and they way they will do it. Also I can almost guarantee that CCP are working on the PS4 version, they have stated many times that they have a 10 year plan for Dust, there is no way that a game could stay competitive on a 16 year old platform. Given CCP's track record for amazing visuals and pushing the boundaries, I'd say that's a strong case for a YES
Kovinis Sparagas Final Fortress Happy Tree Fiends 58	Posted - 2013.02.21 17:46:00 - [21] - Quote EnIgMa99 wrote: this game will be easy to port from 1 playstation platform to the next, im sure the playstation OS will have a certain amount of backwards compatibility. The only thing i would worry about is still using the same game engine for the next 5 years, prepare to look at mud and crappy polygon counts mean while the unreal 5 engine comes out and has nut busting particle effects. EVE Online has changed game engine completely over 10 years, so it will be no exception for Dust
Kaeralli Sturmovos KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 117	Posted - 2013.02.21 18:51:00 - [22] - Quote this thread is a waste of space, ccp can choose to jump in when their ready right now they have the ps3 version to work on. when there are enough of an install base in ps4 then they can consider the upgrade. EVE didnt make super leaps in upgrades throughout its 10yrs why start work on something that has no population yet. the game will be there on psn day one the upgrade will come down the road.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 580	Posted - 2013.02.21 18:52:00 - [23] - Quote Is it just me, or should CCP be focusing on getting the PS3 version running properly before they spend time porting to a system that isn't out yet?
Drommy Hood Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 242	Posted - 2013.02.21 18:58:00 - [24] - Quote Chruno 5om3 wrote: Drommy Hood wrote: Drommy Hood wrote: Here: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18f9uk10m7fwfjpg/original.jpg It's evidence that nothing's been decided for ps4 launch at this point I'd say. Not to say that it won't, or that it will. But that at this time ccp has not said they they either want to/will have a title ready for ps4 launch. Or that they're not a big enough name to include.... But some of them iv bever heard of, so I hope that's not the case "Or that they're not a big enough name to include...." I'll let you in on a trade secret, friend. CCP makes EVE online. Thanks friend, I had no idea......... My point was, ccp isn't exactly namco or sega. My next point was that iv never heard of some of them, thus although lots of people are like ccp who? They likely won't have heard of nixxes or genki. Cos I never have. Thanks for the trade secret tho, mums the word
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 633	Posted - 2013.02.21 19:17:00 - [25] - Quote Django Quik wrote: This is hardly an official Sony report. No, but this is: http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/news/20130221E.pdf Still, not confirmation of any nonexistence. The list isn't presented as "these are the only developers who are working on games for the PS4 and no others can possibly exist."
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2013.02.21 19:44:00 - [26] - Quote Dear original poster, I don't see this as an official source. Sony has screwed up on marketing on several occasions. For example: Sony once announced that the DUST 514 game would be coming out on October 2012. CCP proved them wrong when they announced that wasn't happening. Sony also accidentally implied that the October release was a complete game by failing to mention it was just getting updated. Then CCP announced that the official release would most likely be during the summer of 2013 which is shortly after fanfest. Therefore I would rather hear it from CCP directly about the PS4 port than to hear it from someone whose information is not even from CCP.
Vin Vicious Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2013.02.21 20:03:00 - [27] - Quote how about you wait until fanfest
Kovinis Sparagas Final Fortress Happy Tree Fiends 58	Posted - 2013.02.21 20:09:00 - [28] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Dear original poster, I don't see this as an official source. Sony has screwed up on marketing on several occasions. For example: Sony once announced that the DUST 514 game would be coming out on October 2012. CCP proved them wrong when they announced that wasn't happening. Sony also accidentally implied that the October release was a complete game by failing to mention it was just getting updated. Then CCP announced that the official release would most likely be during the summer of 2013 which is shortly after fanfest. Therefore I would rather hear it from CCP directly about the PS4 port than to hear it from someone whose information is not even from CCP. Thank you, I will update my original post
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 414	Posted - 2013.02.21 20:17:00 - [29] - Quote list currently developing. CCP is making ps3 game at moment. They need to get ps3 out of beta before starting port. Depending on difficulty(unreal 3 to x86 used by pc should be pretty easy, since engine was ported to ps3 from x86 originally) they might have port done by ps4 launch. Say they get game finished enough to loose beta status late summer, few months to do port and a small expansion for winter. So, it could be out on ps4 at launch but not be in development for ps4 yet, or they may start ps4 port a year or two from now. Even if twitter post is 100% accurate it would not mean no dust on ps4 eventually, and it may not be accurate anyway.
Goric Rumis Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 80	Posted - 2013.02.21 22:59:00 - [30] - Quote All this proves is that Sony hasn't put CCP's name on a list. That could be for any number of reasons, and it's completely pointless to speculate (maybe CCP didn't want it on there, maybe Sony didn't want it on there, maybe Sony just didn't check to see whether CCP wanted it on there and thought it's better safe than sorry, maybe CCP doesn't want to jump the gun and make people expect a release, maybe CCP wants to play safe and see how Dust pans out on the PS3 before making any kind of announcement about the PS4, maybe Sony wants to play it safe before they commit to distributing it on the PS4, etc., etc., etc.). It's been expressed that CCP intends for Dust to work on the next generation of Playstation consoles. Barring any unforeseen problems, I expect it will be on the PS4.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2013.02.21 23:17:00 - [31] - Quote Why is this thread still alive? Seriously, why is this not dead by now?
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 639	Posted - 2013.02.21 23:21:00 - [32] - Quote they haven't even finished the PS3 version yet... You talking about the PS4 version?...oh boy
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2013.02.21 23:29:00 - [33] - Quote Definition of a 2nd party developer: "The term "second-party" developer is colloquially used in the sense of "subsidiary", referring to a non-owned third-party developer specializing in development for a particular platform. Some studios may have exclusive publishing agreements (or other business relationships) with a manufacturer, while maintaining independence. " Seems to me CCP fits the definition of 2nd party, and not 3rd party as they do have an exclusive publishing contract for Dust with Sony, after all...
Kovak Therim ZionTCD Legacy Rising 158	Posted - 2013.02.22 01:00:00 - [34] - Quote A lot of devs are still checking out the dev kits wondering "What can we do with this thing that will blow people's minds?" I'm betting CCP is at that stage right now, hard at work getting this game going on PS3 while contemplating what can be done on the PS4.
Sony Network Expert Intervention Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.02.22 01:11:00 - [35] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: Django Quik wrote: This is hardly an official Sony report. It was officially retweeted by oficial Playstation twitter Thats the people who come to the event -_-
Jotun Hiem Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 411	Posted - 2013.02.22 01:39:00 - [36] - Quote Guerrilla Games isn't on the list, yet they were showing off their up and coming game on the PS4 at the convention. Your argument is invalid.
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2013.02.22 01:47:00 - [37] - Quote it's allready a ps4 port, they allready told us they have it running on a ps4 in house, stop spreading lies
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2013.02.22 02:35:00 - [38] - Quote This is ********. It's not going to launch with the PS4. It'll come some time later.
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2013.02.22 04:57:00 - [39] - Quote They have a 10 year plan for ps3. They'll probably port it on the dying days of ps4.
DigiOps DUST University Ivy League 85	Posted - 2013.02.22 05:07:00 - [40] - Quote TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote: They have a 10 year plan for ps3. They'll probably port it on the dying days of ps4. Or be supported by both from the get-go. Props for Timesplitters love, btw.
Jotun Hiem Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 411	Posted - 2013.02.22 05:11:00 - [41] - Quote TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote: They have a 10 year plan for ps3. They'll probably port it on the dying days of ps4. No, they have a ten year roadmap for the game. There's probably already plans to port the thing over to PS4.
Doshneil Antaro SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 24	Posted - 2013.02.22 06:42:00 - [42] - Quote CCP has too much on their hands, you think a port should be a priority?
Imp Smash On The Brink 51	Posted - 2013.02.22 07:20:00 - [43] - Quote I'm betting it gets ported. And with a better engine to boot

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