player in STB complaining about tanks...thats rich.

Only cowards hide in tanks to fight infantry. The people on leader boards have to hide in 20,000 plus armour tanks and spam blaster fire and people to get kills. I mean really how is this fair to put tanks against infantry.

Some solutions
1 make no tank server lists
2 instant death to vehicles entering red zone
3 limit vehicles on the map

No, no, no, no...

I put all my SP into anti vehicle. Every last drop. Some days I wait 5 , 6, or more matches just waiting for a tank to show up. I could not stand to play any more instant battles just scraping by with a junk assault fitting...

And I refuse to skill into assault rifles. Vehicles are the only thing that give this game a little flavor.

Unless there is a melee only server. I would fight on a melee only server...

Only cowards hide in tanks to fight infantry. The people on leader boards have to hide in 20,000 plus armour tanks and spam blaster fire and people to get kills. I mean really how is this fair to put tanks against infantry.

Some solutions
1 make no tank server lists
2 instant death to vehicles entering red zone
3 limit vehicles on the map

I have some decent Av skills but there is nothing you can do when the tanks keep pulling to the red lines to heal up. Regardless of who in any corp uses them they are cheap when used on infantry maps. Personally i think infantry should be able to solo tanks better. Even in the real world there are weapons that can disable tanks by an individual. I'm just tired of seeing tanks rolling over infantry.

Only cowards hide in tanks to fight infantry. The people on leader boards have to hide in 20,000 plus armour tanks and spam blaster fire and people to get kills. I mean really how is this fair to put tanks against infantry.

Some solutions
1 make no tank server lists
2 instant death to vehicles entering red zone
3 limit vehicles on the map

I agree with the removal of vehicles in ambush. Only a scrub takes vehicles into ambush.

Limit to 3 vehicles per match is ridiculus though

Only cowards hide in tanks to fight infantry. The people on leader boards have to hide in 20,000 plus armour tanks and spam blaster fire and people to get kills. I mean really how is this fair to put tanks against infantry.

Some solutions
1 make no tank server lists
2 instant death to vehicles entering red zone
3 limit vehicles on the map

I do think the size of the map plus the game mode should dictate the amount of havs a map should allow. More than two on the smallest map in ambush turn into tanks killing you before your done spawning. but that would require alot of programming because to make it fair, if your speced into havs the matchmaking would need to allow you to get into a match were you could call in your tank, possibly making your search for battle take alot more time.

Your an idiot. Fair play is for losers who hate to get owned. If you dont like it dont play. Until then we will continue to own your stupid fair play butt with our tanks!

Matchmaking is not based on skills one has trained, fittings, ISK, or personal assets. It's based on total SP. Someone who's put 2mil SP into AR and assault suit is going to roll over someone who's put the same SP into AR, Assault suit, droplinks, nanohives, SMGs, grenades when it comes to a toe to toe 1v1 battle. The difference is that the second person has more versatility which can be an advantag in it's own right. So don't expect matchmaking to go "Oh look. He can deploy HAVs as most of his 2mil SP are in the necessary skills. Better keep him out of this match where, though the opposing team has a lot of AV options, they don't have the skills to field an equivalent HAV."

:(

I expected better from STB...

full of tryhards with AR's + Damage mods thinking they have "gun game" because they're OP.

I have some decent Av skills but there is nothing you can do when the tanks keep pulling to the red lines to heal up. Regardless of who in any corp uses them they are cheap when used on infantry maps. Personally i think infantry should be able to solo tanks better. Even in the real world there are weapons that can disable tanks by an individual. I'm just tired of seeing tanks rolling over infantry.

I'm at a loss for a proper response myself.

Get good doesn't seem to work in this situation...
anyone got another good one liner to help out the OP?

For the ones that are amazed that someone from STB complaining about tanks. You do realize that every corporation has tank drivers. STB isn't full of tankers but we do have some. We are just recognized as tankers cause we do it the right way. Lurchasaurus and I made STB known for a "tank corporation" 2 builds ago when it was just me and him tanking... come on guys really

I've seen several people here agreeing that tanks should not be allowed in ambush but not one has said an actual reason why they want this? If you're complaining about tanks on the manus peak ambush rolling whole teams, I've destroyed several tanks on that map with my AV fit because the map's too small to hide a big ass tank on. I don't know what your problems are.

You obviously have not played against a high level tank. Yeah its easy to kill militia tanks. The problem is a good tank is not going to die from one or two AV guys. They have about 8 times the shields and mods that greatly reduce and recover damage. The Greatest problem is they just drive away and hide when ever they start taking damage. I think Shield tanks should be removed. There is too much of an imbalance in game play. Most games prevent this Imbalance by making tanks require a separate gunner and a lot longer repair time. I like mixed unit fights in games like planetside and battlefield series games the Maps on dust are too small.

You obviously have not played against a high level tank. Yeah its easy to kill militia tanks. The problem is a good tank is not going to die from one or two AV guys. They have about 8 times the shields and mods that greatly reduce and recover damage. The Greatest problem is they just drive away and hide when ever they start taking damage. I think Shield tanks should be removed. There is too much of an imbalance in game play. Most games prevent this Imbalance by making tanks require a separate gunner and a lot longer repair time. I like mixed unit fights in games like planetside and battlefield series games the Maps on dust are too small.

Why remove shield tanks and not armor? Armor tanks are superior to shield tanks.

no fair play...? what kind of child are you?

if there is no 'fair play' then you get no new people in, meaning the game slowly stagnates, and dies.

balances are important, but there will always be something that will kick your ass.

i don't like tanks, i do my damnedest to blow tanks sky ******* high, i only think they need removed from standard ambush, because most of the time that is where the no AV skill players like to sit, and when i play ambush, i'm looking for team on team carnage, not one side steamrolling the other.

if they do make Infantry only maps, i pray to God that they limit those kinds of spots.

and... if this is gonna be a real war in New Eden.... think about it, vehicles might not always be accessible. at RANDOM TIMES it is possible you end up on a battlefield where you have no armor support, or air support. there will be times when you do and the enemy doesn't. there will be times you dont have the armor access, but they do.

when that happens, you adapt and move the **** on. no one is going to coddle your candy ass through every shooter you play.

it even says in the intro movie and i quote: "YOU WILL DIE".

so kindly get the **** over yourself about vehicle limits. and tankers... take the big plaything in the middle of the feild and not hide on some mountain pass, i mean seriously, if you have the big toy, then use it in the midst of everything, because then someone will learn, and try to fight you off.

Grow. Adapt. Kill. Die. Repeat.

that is the cycle of DUST 514, get used to it tank kiddies, you too QQ ground troops, Welcome to New Eden.

You obviously have not played against a high level tank. Yeah its easy to kill militia tanks. The problem is a good tank is not going to die from one or two AV guys. They have about 8 times the shields and mods that greatly reduce and recover damage. The Greatest problem is they just drive away and hide when ever they start taking damage. I think Shield tanks should be removed. There is too much of an imbalance in game play. Most games prevent this Imbalance by making tanks require a separate gunner and a lot longer repair time. I like mixed unit fights in games like planetside and battlefield series games the Maps on dust are too small.

Only cowards hide in tanks to fight infantry. The people on leader boards have to hide in 20,000 plus armour tanks and spam blaster fire and people to get kills. I mean really how is this fair to put tanks against infantry.

Some solutions
1 make no tank server lists
2 instant death to vehicles entering red zone
3 limit vehicles on the map

You obviously have not played against a high level tank. Yeah its easy to kill militia tanks. The problem is a good tank is not going to die from one or two AV guys. They have about 8 times the shields and mods that greatly reduce and recover damage. The Greatest problem is they just drive away and hide when ever they start taking damage. I think Shield tanks should be removed. There is too much of an imbalance in game play. Most games prevent this Imbalance by making tanks require a separate gunner and a lot longer repair time. I like mixed unit fights in games like planetside and battlefield series games the Maps on dust are too small.

define "right way"?
cuz i tank, we got tankers but yea we dont drop 4+ in 1 match
most u will see us drop is 2

Ad tbqh it wasnt u and lurch that made STB known as a tank corp it was ur actions of droppin 3+ tanks regularly
sometimes ppl u would class as assault players (youngcuz) would drop a tank as well to accompany u lurch and rage

so ya thats where ppl started callin u a "tank corp"

You obviously have not played against a high level tank. Yeah its easy to kill militia tanks. The problem is a good tank is not going to die from one or two AV guys. They have about 8 times the shields and mods that greatly reduce and recover damage. The Greatest problem is they just drive away and hide when ever they start taking damage. I think Shield tanks should be removed. There is too much of an imbalance in game play. Most games prevent this Imbalance by making tanks require a separate gunner and a lot longer repair time. I like mixed unit fights in games like planetside and battlefield series games the Maps on dust are too small.

Shield tanks removed? LOL. Armor is far superior this build. The modules work better. Hell you can blow a shield tank up by crashing an LAV into it. Did you know that everything in the game has a soft spot. Tank's being in between the tracks on the ass end. LAV'S being where the motor would be. Infantry, of course the face. I haven't tried to find the one on the drop ship yet.

Shield tanks removed? LOL. Armor is far superior this build. The modules work better. Hell you can blow a shield tank up by crashing an LAV into it. Did you know that everything in the game has a soft spot. Tank's being in between the tracks on the ass end. LAV'S being where the motor would be. Infantry, of course the face. I haven't tried to find the one on the drop ship yet.