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WR3CK HAVOC
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:22:00 -
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Only cowards hide in tanks to fight infantry. The people on leader boards have to hide in 20,000 plus armour tanks and spam blaster fire and people to get kills. I mean really how is this fair to put tanks against infantry.
Some solutions
1 make no tank server lists
2 instant death to vehicles entering red zone
3 limit vehicles on the map
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
389
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:23:00 -
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Simply not happening |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:24:00 -
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STB member asking for a tank limit...?
What is this I don't even.
If the other team had any brains, they would pull out some swarms and blow those tanks up. Sadly... blueberries lack any sort of matter between their ears. |
KryptixX
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:24:00 -
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player in STB complaining about tanks...thats rich. |
General Hornet
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
21
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:25:00 -
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Who just owned you with there tanks on ambush? |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:25:00 -
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KryptixX wrote:player in STB complaining about tanks...thats rich.
I'm at a loss for a proper response myself.
Get good doesn't seem to work in this situation...
anyone got another good one liner to help out the OP? |
GeneralButtNaked
Burnwall Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:25:00 -
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ambush maybe, but you got to let people still LAV it up. Skirmish limit is a no go though. If you can afford it, you can bring it in |
Syther Shadows
CowTek
7
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:27:00 -
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so i brought this here tank ~
but i can't use it since some guy decided to ask ccp to ban / limit tanks on a map in a game where players are only going to get more rich and HAV's are only going to become more common
forcing me to get into the game and spawn a tank instantly or be disallowed due to the limit and forced to support our tank
and forget trying to kill the other one eventually there will be a best fit and best ect ect
and it will be so strong you will need another hav to take it down if it has other players supporting it
"im sure they will make a no vehicle support map or something some where"
i will hate that day >.>
but if they do i hope they make it a indoors map that would be cool |
Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
264
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:28:00 -
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Have you tried killing them? Yes tanks are good but can be countered.
The uber death armor tanks cry like little girls and run away from a decent swarm launcher or higher tier av grenades.
Shield tanks get the bejuesus scared out of them by flux/forge guns.
The tanks that powerful cost boat loads of isk so killing one will generally justify however many suits you used to kill them.
So no none of your ideas are good. Andnonce we get more vehicles mav fighters mtacs gunships you will have even more counters to tanks.
Also using them on infantry ... what else are we going to use them on?
The mcc? |
WR3CK HAVOC
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:32:00 -
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I have some decent Av skills but there is nothing you can do when the tanks keep pulling to the red lines to heal up. Regardless of who in any corp uses them they are cheap when used on infantry maps. Personally i think infantry should be able to solo tanks better. Even in the real world there are weapons that can disable tanks by an individual. I'm just tired of seeing tanks rolling over infantry. |
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WR3CK HAVOC
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:37:00 -
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I expect all the tanks to come and cry because they dont know what to do if they have to step out and actually fight. They want all the infantry which is 90% of the players to be forced to fight them on unequal terms. |
Rachoi
HavoK Core
17
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:38:00 -
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STB complaning about tanks... i'm a-*******-mazed here folks.
the removal of tanks on the AMBUSH maps makes sense.... but limits on others? as if.
i'm not losing out to deploy my dropship because some newberry ***** pull their cars out before i get a chance. ESPECIALLY if one of those newberries wants a ride when they get blown up...
there will eventually be some limits... like.. 20 a map or something. i dunno, but its not likely to happen any time soon, not untill we get the full team sizes and full sized maps |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
96
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:43:00 -
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My favorite part was the "no tank servers". Servers with no vehicles. On a game known for being single shard. |
Professormohawk
Stasis Military Support
22
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:55:00 -
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yeah. no. that aint happening |
Lanky Chew
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
65
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Posted - 2013.02.20 04:57:00 -
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No, no, no, no...
I put all my SP into anti vehicle. Every last drop. Some days I wait 5 , 6, or more matches just waiting for a tank to show up. I could not stand to play any more instant battles just scraping by with a junk assault fitting...
And I refuse to skill into assault rifles. Vehicles are the only thing that give this game a little flavor.
Unless there is a melee only server. I would fight on a melee only server... |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
904
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Posted - 2013.02.20 05:33:00 -
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No. If you allow the tank to land in an ambush map you deserve to get stomped. |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
414
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Posted - 2013.02.20 06:39:00 -
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WR3CK HAVOC wrote:Only cowards hide in tanks to fight infantry. The people on leader boards have to hide in 20,000 plus armour tanks and spam blaster fire and people to get kills. I mean really how is this fair to put tanks against infantry.
Some solutions
1 make no tank server lists
2 instant death to vehicles entering red zone
3 limit vehicles on the map
Man up and grab a Forge Gun. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2013.02.20 07:26:00 -
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There is a limit, I think it's 4 hav now going to 12 total vehicle per side next build. |
Rachoi
HavoK Core
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Posted - 2013.02.20 07:32:00 -
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Lanky Chew wrote:No, no, no, no...
I put all my SP into anti vehicle. Every last drop. Some days I wait 5 , 6, or more matches just waiting for a tank to show up. I could not stand to play any more instant battles just scraping by with a junk assault fitting...
And I refuse to skill into assault rifles. Vehicles are the only thing that give this game a little flavor.
Unless there is a melee only server. I would fight on a melee only server...
might happen eventually, never know if there is going to be a blood arena somewhere... everyone loves to see some brutality
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XXfootnoteXX
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
76
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Posted - 2013.02.20 08:31:00 -
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:(
I expected better from STB... |
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2013.02.20 08:37:00 -
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WR3CK HAVOC wrote:Only cowards hide in tanks to fight infantry. The people on leader boards have to hide in 20,000 plus armour tanks and spam blaster fire and people to get kills. I mean really how is this fair to put tanks against infantry.
Some solutions
1 make no tank server lists
2 instant death to vehicles entering red zone
3 limit vehicles on the map
Ridiculous thread. You want to ban someones playstyle because he dominates yours Ok, if we do that I want a ban on AV characters, only 3 can be used on the map, that's fair right? I also want only 4 logis per team, 6 assaults 1 sniper and a max of two heavies at any time on the map.
1) There are no "server lists", do you not understand this is a war that will change **** across New Eden? Stop be such a ******* carebear.
2) Instant death for anyone that enters the redzone or none at all.
3) No. |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
318
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:09:00 -
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I agree with the removal of vehicles in ambush. Only a scrub takes vehicles into ambush.
Limit to 3 vehicles per match is ridiculus though |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
220
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:09:00 -
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WR3CK HAVOC wrote:I have some decent Av skills but there is nothing you can do when the tanks keep pulling to the red lines to heal up. Regardless of who in any corp uses them they are cheap when used on infantry maps. Personally i think infantry should be able to solo tanks better. Even in the real world there are weapons that can disable tanks by an individual. I'm just tired of seeing tanks rolling over infantry.
If you're keeping a tank way back in its base, you're doing your job and keeping the tank out of the game. You may not kill it but that's at least one player and a significant killing machine not out on the battlefield. |
BattleCry1791
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
116
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:17:00 -
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Hang on, hang on, hang on...
CCP has said on many occasions that they want to offer a full FPS experience for incoming players. And part of that is infantry only maps.
It's been going on since BF2 for the PC.
Now, so I personally consider it as only playing PART of the game? Yes. But at the same time, it would be a good way for new players to learn about the maps, tactics, and how to shoot without running into a Gunnlogi.
Back on MAG I was a proponent of actually locking lower level players out of the advanced game modes because they caused more problems than they solved.
I'm not proposing the same here...but the fact is, Infantry only servers are all over BF3, BF2, etc. Some guys just like to shoot and think that 1v1 is all that matters. Fine. Let em Live.
I really don't have a big problem with this just so long as there isn't a ton of developing time spent on it and that the server space should be limited for it.
I'll also tell you this...it'll probably be the most played mode on the game.
I don't like it, but why fight reality? |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2013.02.20 12:11:00 -
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OP needs to HTFU tbh
His corp drops tanks all the damn time so really what goes around comes around |
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2013.02.20 12:36:00 -
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I couldn't care less if tanks are removed from ambush tbh. The whole game mode sucks and is full of tryhards with AR's + Damage mods thinking they have "gun game" because they're OP.
That and the fact it's a mind knumbing clusterf*$k with zero direction. |
Soldiersaint
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.20 17:25:00 -
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WR3CK HAVOC wrote:Only cowards hide in tanks to fight infantry. The people on leader boards have to hide in 20,000 plus armour tanks and spam blaster fire and people to get kills. I mean really how is this fair to put tanks against infantry.
Some solutions
1 make no tank server lists
2 instant death to vehicles entering red zone
3 limit vehicles on the map
Your an idiot. Fair play is for losers who hate to get owned. If you dont like it dont play. Until then we will continue to own your stupid fair play butt with our tanks! |
Soldiersaint
Reaper Galactic
6
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Posted - 2013.02.20 17:28:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:I agree with the removal of vehicles in ambush. Only a scrub takes vehicles into ambush.
Limit to 3 vehicles per match is ridiculus though
Lol another idiot. What do you want a bf3 clone? Your playing the wrong game. You want to know what a real scrub is? Some one who does not shut up and play the game. That makes YOU a scrub. |
LeCuch
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
2
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Posted - 2013.02.20 20:44:00 -
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I am a good tank driver and i have been reading around the forums and am here to voice my opinions
Firstly, tanks are not overpowered. You know how slow the armor tank is? Someone with about 200k skill points in forge gun and 30k in AV grenades can drive up, forge gun, 3 av grenade you. You have 7000 armor? Woah. Still, thats about 2 guys with swarm launchers trapping you in the open for maybe 10 seconds, and you are dead. Hey look its a railgun turret *boom* 1500 armor gone *boom* 1500 armor gone. While you're worrying about your tank, 3 seconds and it takes you out and you lose all that money.
The right tank although seeming overpowered, isn't. I can tell you from personal experience you can die pretty dang quick. Other players can spawn with militia swarm launchers, say 3 of them decide to run up to a hill. Each of those hits for 800-1500 depending on your buffs. Every maybe 5-7 seconds. So that gives you a maximum of 14 seconds to get out of the huge range of the swarm launcher before you die.
Ok, some tanks have like 8000 armor 2000 shield and can heal fast. That tank costs over 300k ISK, heck mine cost 474k and 647k depending. If i get an unlucky turn or get stuck for maybe 5 seconds a precision strike can instantly kill me and make me lose 647k like that. Or, free swarm launchers or a few thousand dollar AV grenades.
I admit, tanks can be very strong, but if you have even 2 players on the other team that know what they are doing they can easily take you out. You have the option of a free swarm launcher, and a free forge gun (if you picked that starter class.) Are the tanks free? No. The cheap ones die to fast anyways, so if your complaining about a tank, the dude has most likely over 1,000,000 skill points into tanks in the first place, and has a lot of money into them. Im sure if you put 1,000,000 skill points into swarm launchers, you wouldn't have the same problems taking them out now would you? Don't hate on tanks because people put time and money into them, just learn to adapt, or avoid them
Thank you :P |
drake sadani
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2013.02.20 20:54:00 -
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i use standard soma. i have maxed 17 kills . you know why because everyone is AR-ing in a firefight after i make enough of a foot print . i get 3 swarms from any high ground . this is the same with heavies , quit trying to remove anything that gets in your way with a ban and blow it up .
LIKE CHUCK NORRIS -__________- a man so powerful he once split a abrams tank in half with his bare hands |
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