I get the feeling that this is intended to make sorting pub teams easier, which will hopefully result in fewer multi-corp teams stomping all blueberry teams.

How do you sort pub teams quickly in <1 min?

Normally not all are on comms, it takes >30 seconds for everyone to load in, then adding people to contacts to invite them to your squad, then load contacts, means that you might have a few seconds to talk on comms and sort it out...?

Squads are not required to have comms, team chat is available from the get go without a uvt in war room or battle. This is basically rolling it back to the days where they first brought in squads and before forcing the public to be in squads.

I guess I see people's points made in other threads too. This is basically a way to force everyone to be on team chat together initially.

Since one fo jis patch note predictions came true I convince Iron wolf knows more than what hes telling us.

I get the feeling that this is intended to make sorting pub teams easier, which will hopefully result in fewer multi-corp teams stomping all blueberry teams.

Well after today's downtime public squads have been removed. As a lone wolfer I would enjoy this change as it will allow me to talk to the entire team again.

I think this is a positive change for all the randoms, to increase voice use awareness and get some level of organization going.

Seems pointless. If you wanted team chat as default, set team chat as default. Otherwise leave my squad alone.

Most likely this.




If this was the case, they could have made team chat the default rather than squad.

I am not a dev and I am not related to CCP Wolfman.

Well thats the way it was back in e3 builds, people worked as teams mostly with the voice comms that where available. even those who couldnt talk got with the program.

Well after today's downtime public squads have been removed. As a lone wolfer I would enjoy this change as it will allow me to talk to the entire team again.

I think this is a positive change for all the randoms, to increase voice use awareness and get some level of organization going.

Intel is shared between the whole team if you spot a guy everyone can see it.

Wow... seriously?

Who the heck wants to squad up when we could have the eyes of an entire team of players spotting!

Definitely looking forward to soling tonight! Going to be hard to go back to 4 man squads when we could potentially have a 16 man squad with eyes on all parts of the battlefield and all that wonderful intel pouring in.

It's always been shared between the whole team - whether you are in a squad or not, if a teammate sees someone, you can see the blip on your radar and/or screen.

Honestly I don't think so. I was always under the impression (and was told) that only those in your squad can spot enemies to show up on the radar.

I have witnessed this in experience too, a whole group of blues could be hammering down on a group of reds, yet the only time they show up is when a squad member gets eyes on them. Isn't this orbital 101 kind of stuff? Get squad members to get eyes on red dots so they show up on the map, and therefore the one with an orbital can get a better idea where to put it? Many times i have had a surprise red dot, or multiple red dots, show up behind or in front of me despite a blue dot, or multiple blue dots, looking right at them.

Also I have been in squads of 1 before and never saw red dots unless I got eyes on them myself (or my scanners picked them up in close proximity).


I dunno, unless something isn't working correctly for me, blue dots getting eyes on a red dot never made them show up on my radar or map. I find blue dots shooting at red dots all the time and I only see the red dot on radar/HUD/map when I, or a squad member, look at them.

Most likely the latter, there was an attempt to declutter the battlefield view to most relevant. Which may produce some odd results.

So is there any difference between a squad member spotting a red dot and a bluedot spotting one? Maybe a red dot spotted by a squad member always shows up on my HUD/radar/map, but the bluedot spotting a red only shows up under the circumstances you are saying (most relevant battlefield intel).

I get the feeling that this is intended to make sorting pub teams easier, which will hopefully result in fewer multi-corp teams stomping all blueberry teams.

I think you are correct.

I am not sure, but if each solo pubbie is not put into a squad from the get-go, the game will have to sort out less voice comm channels, since there will be fewer one or two man squads. Its mostly an efficiency thing I think. Should ease up stress on the hardware and who knows....this might give more stability to our comms since the backend is not as cluttered.

If blueberries aren't automatically in a squad, they will not only be forced to learn the mechanisms to get in one, but this might finally give meaning back to team chat. Hopefully.

Love this change. As someone who has low FPS skills, I tend to focus on support. With 90% of the team all being in the "no squad" squad, that means they can all use my CRUs

Awesome to make it behind enemy lines, place a well hidden CRU and then watch 8+ people jump in to help out.

PS removal is awful. If you add yourself in to a squad, and the game ends. the system does not let you join other games, as you are not the leader.

Also, as most people dont squad up, there are fewer orbital strikes and no objectives set. On many games, I just follow the herd, or run where there are lots of blues, as there is no organisation.

What I have thus seen is 1 boon and 1 bane

Boon: People in team chat can talk to each other and form private teams

Bane: People in team chat that reeeally need to learn mic etiquette broadcast their nastiness to everyone. By this I mean I had to listen to someone mouth breathe and make horrid gargled snorting noises every minute or so while people tried to talk over him. It was horrifying.

You can (and should) mute people who do that. If it's bad enough to be annoying, it should be easy to spot who it is. Just look for who's mic icon goes green while the offending sounds are happening

Can you mute individual people? I've only seem total mute that turns off everything. Also a lot of those green things go off constantly just cause you can hear them playing the same game lol

Well after today's downtime public squads have been removed. As a lone wolfer I would enjoy this change as it will allow me to talk to the entire team again.

I think this is a positive change for all the randoms, to increase voice use awareness and get some level of organization going.

my observations

-new players do not squad up, missing the chance to have orbital strikes.
-More experienced players squad up, and get to use orbital strikes, giving them an advantage
-People still do not generally communicate or set objectives. There is no strategy, except for following larger groups of players, to stay alive.

I have a headset and set objectives, but most people do not.

I would suggest automatic squad creation, that way you introduce new players to squads, and squad objectives. That encourages teamwork.