oh god the monty python quotes

Its fine "tis but a scratch"
I love monty python btw but they can be weird at times

yah, but they WERE... and people still expected to wreck with them. and then they got all AV equipment nerfed

think about all the, lets face it, bad players in logi suits. maybe they came from eve, or just never played a shooter before. (i feel like dust would attract some non shooter audience) they think to themselves "man, i'm getting my ass kicked. maybe if i play a logi i can still contribute until i get my bearings here in this new type of game" and i commend them for being honest with themselves.

same deal with the mass driver, can't aim? use the gun that doesn't need precision aim. (i also suspect this is why we see so much overlap between logis and mass drivers) again, as a human being, i do not shame you. i respect you for being honest with yourself and trying to contribute, instead of trying to be cool (i still hate mass drivers but i don't BLAME the guy using it.).

I'm a logi with a mass driver.

First of all, I would like to say that the reason you mainly see MDs being used by logis is because there's so little ammo you need to be carting around a stack of nanohives (6 round clip, and you start with 12 rounds outside of the clip)

Second: I run logi because I'm always running with dumbass assaults with ARs, and heavies with HMGs. Because they suck, I profit from their mistakes with a repair tool and a nanite injector.

Mass drivers are harder to use than you AR scrubs think- I found in a thread I made that mass drivers are considered by posters up there with scrambler pistols as being the most skill intensive weapons. Try them. At close range, you have to avoid killing yourself, and learn when to stop shooting and start punching. At longer ranges, you have to deal with something much more difficult than with any other weapons- a firing arc, and a slow moving projectile. If you master this, you'll be able to kill really quickly with direct hits.
You also have to work on conserving ammo- like I said before, it's really easy to run out if you play like an AR scrub, and you have to be strategic with where and when you use your nanohives.

Not to mention the "skilled" assaults and heavies have minimal situational awareness, while being support means you have to watch everyone's ass- including your own.

Can't wait for the fighters, gunna be sick.

when they do come out, goodbye LR and Madrugar, Hello blue sky!

Blue sky is pretty rare atm. I can't wait until I can fly around with a minmatar fighter- nothing will be safe from what will probably be the fastest vehicle in dust.

And the most crashed

crashed into HAVs

or I'll just warp through the ground

First Id like to point out that at no point in this game have I seen anything that takes skill.....

The game either caters to the worst FPS players you can find. Either you spray a wall of bullets at people, you have stupid ass splash damage range, or you are sitting so far away they aren't a threat. Second the vehicles are paperweights. Look Tank **** it died. I mean I have 1 or 2 points in almost every weapon because I see no reason not to use them all, and I have a 2.5 KDR and generally come in top 5 on my team for WP, regardless of whether I run Logi, Sniper, Shotty, HMG, Assault or what have you.

So please don't act like this game takes skill in the slightest bit, I can use all the weapons because they are simple to use and made for the worst FPS players out there. This game will never be skill based and never has been, it's about gear and Aurum. Whoever has the Aurum **** is gonna win the majority of the time, even though they say Aurum gear doesn't give you an advantage is does. All the Aurum **** should be cosmetic, nothing more.

Anyway, Im done ranting. My whole point is HAV Drivers don't suck, Snipers don't suck, Logis don't suck. You can suck at a game that takes zero skill to play. Point spray bullets in general direction it dies....or shoot close to guy and my explosion will kill him. No skill game. Gear and Real Money wins.

now don't anybody flip a **** here but this is gonna be a long one, and it's gonna start kind of offensive. i wanna state that i'm not trying to insult anyone, i'm just making a point/laying out a theory.

i think most HAV drivers are just bad at videogames. (obviously this doesn't apply to everyone. last night my squad destroyed 3-4 of protoman and his squadmates tanks and he still ended up like 15/0. i remember, because it's frustrating.)

think about all the, lets face it, bad players in logi suits. maybe they came from eve, or just never played a shooter before. (i feel like dust would attract some non shooter audience) they think to themselves "man, i'm getting my ass kicked. maybe if i play a logi i can still contribute until i get my bearings here in this new type of game" and i commend them for being honest with themselves.

same deal with the mass driver, can't aim? use the gun that doesn't need precision aim. (i also suspect this is why we see so much overlap between logis and mass drivers) again, as a human being, i do not shame you. i respect you for being honest with yourself and trying to contribute, instead of trying to be cool (i still hate mass drivers but i don't BLAME the guy using it.)

red line/mountaintop snipers: also generally bad at videogames. when has one killed you once you got up on him? how often do they hold still while you pump an entire magazine and a half into them (because they're right at the edge of your range. losing a lot of damage) with just iron sights. this is not good fps behavior?


Now i am willing to acknowledge that some players can be GOOD at that stuff i listed above, so i'm not trying to paint EVERYONE with the same brush. but comon... can we just be honest here and accept that for most cases what i've said is probably true?

this takes us to HAVs. there are certainly decent HAV guys out there, but i destroyed 5 HAVs tonight, and i almost had a sixth. (credit where it's due, did NOT expect you to run from the orbital strike INTO the red line. thought you would run towards me and my squad and we'd get you. not bad. but you totally got saved by the match ending!)

NONE of the HAVs we destroyed were even so much as MOVING when we killed them... one of them was inexplicably parked on top of one of MY supply depots? (thanks by the way, i don't think i could have gotten you otherwise...)

There was a thread on here a few days ago by a guy complaining he got killed by swarms. upon further investigation he actually got killed by an enemy tank, 2 turrets, a forge gunner, some av grenades, and FINISHED OFF BY some prototype aurum swarms. and he was running a shield booster on a madrugar? is it me?

i SUSPECT that "bad" players are specing into HAVs just like they spec into logi suits, mass drivers, and redline sniping because they expect to just trade isk for success. there's a reason MOST of the tank crying we've been seeing is coming from relatively unknown names, or "new tankers"

where's noc? i think he had one complaint about orbitals being unavoidable. (he's not wrong, they pretty much are. i'll never feel bad for a tanker though; the orbital that "might" kill a tank "will" kill infantry so we've got it worse.)

where's bad furry?

where's that other guy who's been crying so little i forgot their name? (This isn't a joke there WERE other "infamous" tankers. like that guy who was using an armor tank before it was cool, like several builds ago. or who had the first black ops HAV back when those still existed?)



So yah, that's my theory. and don't get me wrong, i don't think i'm that good. this isn't an e-peen thing, it's a "stop demanding wins and kills just because you threw isk at it" thing.

you might just suck. and CCP can't balance around suck, because if they buff suck up to not suck; competent ends up steamrolling for 3 builds. get out of your tank, and lets have a gunfight. you can probably beat me...

Should have just named the thread "I have a theory about players of every role."

90% of the people in any given role are trash in the eyes of top tier players. Another 9% are what would be considered average. And then there's 0.9% that are good, well before you get to the great players. It's pretty much like this in any game, but my god, I think this is the lowest skilled player base I have ever seen. It doesn't matter the role, it's rare to see someone that looks like they know what they're doing.



Yet they're trying to.

LOL i was wondering when some of the tankers, Logies and MD bros were gonna beat this dudes post into the ground. Most good tankers and players have skills in FPS and this dude just made lots of enemies.

I love seeing the drama. Guy probably has less than 1.5 KDR or something. LOL. Cant wait to give his name to all the poor tankers, Logies, MD in this game i know (cause if they drive a tank they suck right.). I say we all hunt this dude whenever possible.

where's that other guy who's been crying so little i forgot their name? (This isn't a joke there WERE other "infamous" tankers. like that guy who was using an armor tank before it was cool, like several builds ago. or who had the first black ops HAV back when those still existed?

OP

Another pointless "my play style is better than your playstyle" thread.

In my opinion, HAV drivers are better at video games than you. Chess players find the best strategy to win for themselves. Same with any game, you always do what works out best for you. Making some kind of frustrated argument just points out the fact that you are terrible at this game because you can't formulate strategies that will defeat opponent, so you attack them socially; pointing out the immorality of thier position.

think about all the, lets face it, bad players in logi suits. maybe they came from eve, or just never played a shooter before. (i feel like dust would attract some non shooter audience) they think to themselves "man, i'm getting my ass kicked. maybe if i play a logi i can still contribute until i get my bearings here in this new type of game" and i commend them for being honest with themselves.