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Icedslayer
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
42
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Posted - 2013.02.14 17:01:00 -
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So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! |
charlesnette dalari
Creative Killers
159
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Posted - 2013.02.14 17:28:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!!
your kidding right.... so the matchmaking system sucks because it cant read your mind and group people the exact way YOU want... ok well the i guess every game made has matchmaking that sucks.
WOW how about finding someething that actually is constructive to post |
ImperfectFan514
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
51
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Posted - 2013.02.14 17:29:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!!
You couldn't beat lotis and giant together. Somebody doesn't know how to camp clutch carry. |
DEADPOOL5241
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
231
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Posted - 2013.02.14 17:37:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!!
At Lotus and Giant being stacked teams... LMAO |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
174
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Posted - 2013.02.14 17:47:00 -
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I've seen this phenomenon too. It's not uncommon for me to see 2 squads formed by above average corps pitted against mostly randoms when if those 2 had been pitted on different teams, it would be fairer. I don't know why the matchmaking system does this but i've seen this as a pattern.
As for people downplaying the importance of the mentioned corps, please realize that the issue is they're fighting together against randoms. As much as you can dominate them doesn't mean that they won't tip the battle in their favor very easily in this situation. |
Icedslayer
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
42
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Posted - 2013.02.14 18:04:00 -
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DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! At Lotus and Giant being stacked teams... LMAO i was soloing dumb **** |
stormtroopin
Cygnus Tactical Operations
51
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Posted - 2013.02.14 18:07:00 -
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we all get stacked matches like that once in a while.. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
372
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Posted - 2013.02.14 18:09:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! 1) its L.O.T.I.S. not lotus 2)stacked squads are fun |
Icedslayer
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
42
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Posted - 2013.02.14 18:13:00 -
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charlesnette dalari wrote:Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! your kidding right.... so the matchmaking system sucks because it cant read your mind and group people the exact way YOU want... ok well the i guess every game made has matchmaking that sucks. WOW how about finding someething that actually is constructive to post No i just saying having 2 full squads of a corp on the same team doesn't make much sense when your going against randoms, its boring for the both sides. And i had fun in the round even though over half the team was sniping from our MCC. I'am not raging or mad, i just want some intense battles that aren't reline scenarios that's all
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2013.02.14 18:13:00 -
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Reminds me of the time it was 12 vs me. I expected to get destroyed before I could even kill one of them. |
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Icedslayer
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
42
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Posted - 2013.02.14 18:15:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! 1) its L.O.T.I.S. not lotus 2)stacked squads are fun Sorry, yes they can be, but me personally would rather have a well fought match between 2 teams that where stacked. Sorry redlining is just boring |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
372
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Posted - 2013.02.14 18:19:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:gbghg wrote:Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! 1) its L.O.T.I.S. not lotus 2)stacked squads are fun Sorry, yes they can be, but me personally would rather have a well fought match between 2 teams that where stacked. Sorry redlining is just boring It really is, plus the chance to shoot at corp mates should never be passed up. |
Icedslayer
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
42
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Posted - 2013.02.14 18:28:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Icedslayer wrote:gbghg wrote:Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! 1) its L.O.T.I.S. not lotus 2)stacked squads are fun Sorry, yes they can be, but me personally would rather have a well fought match between 2 teams that where stacked. Sorry redlining is just boring It really is, plus the chance to shoot at corp mates should never be passed up. I agree, i love playing against my corp or other good corps, it makes you a stronger player.
I love how people misconstrue my words. I'am not bitching about going against a double or triple stacked team, i love it, i'am simply stating match making needs to be reworked or tuned to allow "common sense engagements" cause at the end of the day getting redlined or redlining a team is BORING FOR BOTH TEAMS!! |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
117
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Posted - 2013.02.14 19:59:00 -
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DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! At Lotus and Giant being stacked teams... LMAO
both L.O.T.I.S. and G I A N T typically provide solid squads, and when in any pub with multiple squads of established corps. vs a crew of randoms... even when some randoms are from established crews, it DOES provide a 'stacked' situation.
although you wouldnt know anything about this cause you and your silly mass driver have never been by your lonesome where you would simply embarrass the crew you represent.
Leave the others alone and stop trying to create a flame-fest amongst everyone that isnt your crew
stick to your idea of 'PR' cause you of all people should never be in a discussion about skill/competitiveness/etc. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.02.14 20:07:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! I'm always soloing as well and find that i'm always the only named corp on my side vs 2 squads on the other, normally KEQ *You guys have been everywhere!*
Really doesn't matter if they're just the bottom feeders of the worst beta corps - 2 squads and none on your side hurts. Only thing one can do is keep near blue berries and use them as scouts so you don't get into bad situations. |
Purple Lipton
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
33
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Posted - 2013.02.14 20:48:00 -
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corp squads = communication |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
92
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Posted - 2013.02.14 20:51:00 -
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charlesnette dalari wrote:Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! your kidding right.... so the matchmaking system sucks because it cant read your mind and group people the exact way YOU want... ok well the i guess every game made has matchmaking that sucks. WOW how about finding someething that actually is constructive to post
how about posting a response thats actually constructive instead of belittling the OP?? |
Green Living
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2013.02.14 20:54:00 -
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I have played 8 matches since SP restart on Wednesday and have yet to have a competitive match. Feel like playing this game less and less each day. |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2013.02.14 21:01:00 -
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CUBS is a good example of DUST's finest. |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2013.02.14 21:01:00 -
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Two corp squads vs. no corp squads is completely unacceptable matchmaking for all parties involved. |
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Pakratpatti TG
Like a Boss.
2
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Posted - 2013.02.14 21:31:00 -
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I've Played many a matches were it's been stacked against me/us. Hmm guess changing your battle tactics & adapting to the playing field would be a thought. You can't step into a battle & say wooo wait this isn't fair lets even this out..I'd Rflmao off at you! Maybe it's not balanced out to see just how good you can actually be if you have to us of your own thought process with some real tactical play..Just a Thought :S |
Kinky Burrito
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.02.14 21:42:00 -
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Pakratpatti TG wrote:I've Played many a matches were it's been stacked against me/us. Hmm guess changing your battle tactics & adapting to the playing field would be a thought. You can't step into a battle & say wooo wait this isn't fair lets even this out..I'd Rflmao off at you! Maybe it's not balanced out to see just how good you can actually be if you have to us of your own thought process with some real tactical play..Just a Thought :S
This entire thread just went over your head, didn't it? |
Pakratpatti TG
Like a Boss.
2
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Posted - 2013.02.14 22:44:00 -
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No Not at all..Just giving another option.. ppl saying the way it's balanced out in some matches is Off. For the most part there not that unbalanced. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.02.14 22:47:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!!
Yeah, but its fine when STB rolls out 4 tanks isn't it? |
Halador Osiris
Dead Six Initiative
47
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Posted - 2013.02.14 22:49:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:It's not uncommon for me to see 2 squads formed by above average corps pitted against mostly randoms when if those 2 had been pitted on different teams, it would be fairer. My corp has tried it twice and both times we ended up on opposite teams of eachother. It's random, guys. If somebody saw a squad of 4 on one side and the same corp's squad of 4 on the other, they might laugh and play the match. They wouldn't go talk about it on the forums. What I mean by this is that the system works as intended, and you're only complaining because the system worked against you. |
Shyeer Alvarin
Dead Six Initiative
45
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Posted - 2013.02.15 19:06:00 -
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To be fair, the Dead Six Initiative does Simul-Queue for two eventualities. If we end up on the -same- team, we can use the opportunity to prepare ourselves for corp battles. If we end up on opposite teams, we take the opportunity to compete against each other for Warpoints and leaderboard positions for that match.
Funsies. It's why Dead Six does it. One squad will be on the winning side, the other will not. |
Halador Osiris
Dead Six Initiative
47
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Posted - 2013.02.15 19:08:00 -
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Oh come on, you know we just play against eachother so I can laugh when I forge you guys. |
NeWBAD FuRrY
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.02.15 19:12:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!!
Shut up and go play COD if you dont like it.
BTW Welcome to EVE ! |
CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
13
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Posted - 2013.02.15 19:13:00 -
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I personally love it when the other team is rocking it out. hard to learn and get better when you are fighting scrubs. Fighting gifted players either makes you better or rage quit. Coarser sand paper always hurts worse than fine |
Shyeer Alvarin
Dead Six Initiative
45
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Posted - 2013.02.15 19:20:00 -
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Halador Osiris wrote:Oh come on, you know we just play against eachother so I can laugh when I forge you guys.
Or so I can shoot down yer Dropship. :3 |
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Chinduko
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
19
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Posted - 2013.02.15 19:38:00 -
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I don't know what CCP could do to better balance games.
I do know that these matches where you're either being redlined or doing the redlining are becoming very common. They are very boring.
I hope CCP can do something to reduce this. |
YourDeadAgain76
Red Star.
133
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Posted - 2013.02.15 19:42:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:CUBS is a good example of DUST's finest.
+1 CUBS is a tough dude to take down. |
YourDeadAgain76
Red Star.
133
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Posted - 2013.02.15 19:43:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! Yeah, but its fine when STB rolls out 4 tanks isn't it?
lol yeah i bet it is. |
CookieStein
G I A N T
62
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Posted - 2013.02.16 03:02:00 -
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So if we're SoTa PoP wrote:the bottom feeders of the worst beta corps and we already beat you and Impswarm that makes yourself and Impswarm what exactly?
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Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
53
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Posted - 2013.02.16 03:46:00 -
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Unless told otherwise I am sure no fixed matchmaking happens, and it is totally random. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.16 03:58:00 -
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And a blue berry, like me, going up against a squad of imperfects and their tanks( they aren't the only ones who do it though) is fair???
What's that thing people love to say around these parts? Oh right, HTFU! |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
441
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Posted - 2013.02.16 04:30:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!!
I played in this match with my alt.
Our side was unorganized and deserved the terrible deaths we got.
It was chance lotus had that stacked of a side, fair? Of course it is fool.
GG lotus, I had fun in it. Challenge is much better then a normal pub bore. |
Villanor Aquarius
Shattered Ascension
79
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Posted - 2013.02.16 09:17:00 -
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There is nothing fair about the EVE universe. Getting put into a match with teammates who can't work together is frustrating but too bad. Don't like it then get your own full squad.
EVE and Dust are truly multiplayer games. Get friends and work with them or it will not go well against those who are doing that. Also really each individual match doesn't matter. Sure stats are nice and all but you don't gain or lose territory, your isk payout isn't hugely different, your reputation isn't tarnished and people don't rage quit your corp because of it.
Welcome to EVE, where making the game "unfair" to the other player is the game. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
30
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Posted - 2013.02.16 10:48:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!!
It's people like you that ruin shooters. Cry and get developers to take out option to fill entire team with corp. I miss games like Socom2-3 where you could go into a room and find a team stacked with one clan and you bring your clan in and go at it with them. |
nukel head
Knights of No Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:15:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! It's people like you that ruin shooters. Cry and get developers to take out option to fill entire team with corp. I miss games like Socom2-3 where you could go into a room and find a team stacked with one clan and you bring your clan in and go at it with them.
I couldn't disagree with you more, Xero. It's a game. I for one am not one the best at shooters, but I am at least average. Having been on both sides of these types of matches, I can definitely say that something needs to be done to fix the matchmaking. A TRUE player does not enjoy a match against an inexperienced newb team. Those matches are boring from the winning side and rage-quit frustrating from the other.
My understanding of the matchmaking is that the skirmish and ambush matches were supposed to PREVENT team stacking to make them balanced and competitive. The corporation contracts are where you attempt to stack a team. If you are REALLY any good that is where you prove it. NOT by curb stomping a bunch of people who might just be learning how to play.
If you really think yourself that good, put your space bucks where your mouth is and do corporate contracts. As for the matchmaking, I don't mind playing with and against players of all skill level. I will help the ones that need help and do my best to take down those that are better than me. But I would like to see more even matches to make it interesting. |
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lowratehitman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
283
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:36:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!!
I have come to the point that I do not rage anymore, and try my hardest to not get upset. I have a strong winning mentality that the beta has crushed, and i am not upset, due to it being a beta. I find most of the problems coming from new players that need guiadence. I have been redlined a few times this weekend only to see people setting up camp in the redline, having BBQ's and LAV truck and tractor pulls. So I remember that it is just a PUB game, and a BETA as well, and I pull the trusty LAZOR rifle out and roast some marshmellows that are pushing the spawn trap. |
nukel head
Knights of No Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:43:00 -
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Villanor Aquarius wrote:There is nothing fair about the EVE universe. Getting put into a match with teammates who can't work together is frustrating but too bad. Don't like it then get your own full squad.
EVE and Dust are truly multiplayer games. Get friends and work with them or it will not go well against those who are doing that. Also really each individual match doesn't matter. Sure stats are nice and all but you don't gain or lose territory, your isk payout isn't hugely different, your reputation isn't tarnished and people don't rage quit your corp because of it.
Welcome to EVE, where making the game "unfair" to the other player is the game.
So Eve is not about defeating a worthy foe? It is not about true skill or talent at all, but more about kicking around those with less skill and experience than yourself. Wow. Bet you get laid a lot? At the nursing home? With the comatose patients? |
MC2044-Razgriz Polaris
BetaMax Beta
2
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Posted - 2013.02.18 08:24:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!!
OH MY GOD YES! I COULDN'T AGREE MORE! CCP YOU FOOLS! YOU EVER LIVING FOOLS! PLEASE OH GOD BOW DOWN TO THIS CAREBEAR AND MAKE HIS WISHES COME TRUE!
';..;' you've got to be fu/cking kidding me right? you seriously need to pull your head out of your ass. The match making system is not broken when two organized groups get together. that right there is an example of people doing what this game is designed to do and WORK THE HELL TOGETHER! Quit being a standard issue blueberry and look for the real bugs in the system not the shi't that sets this game apart from every other mindless dic/kbeater game like COD and BF3. WORK TOGETHER WITH YOUR TEAM AND SHUT YOUR CRYING UP! |
Fiddlestaxp
Sil3nt Assassins
30
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Posted - 2013.02.18 08:50:00 -
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Personally, I really like seeing familiar squads on the other team. It provides some sort of objective to what is otherwise a mindless SP grind. Seeing Cubs + Nugs is great. I'm probably going to lose money to them, but at least it is challanging. Same thing with good tank drivers. Zitro usually stomps my pub, but every once in a while we kill his tank. Minor e-complishments make all the difference.
Different story when everyone on the other team is in a squad from a decent clan and your team is all default corps + your two buddies. If we weren't so proud we would back out. It only makes sense to back out from an ISK/SP stand point. That shouldn't happen. Matches should be consistant. Ideally, all quick matches should be winnable by either side. Not always possible I am sure, but that should be the goal. Quality Matchmaking systems are certainly possible and I think they have made some improvement, but it should remain a top priority until you get it right. You will know when it is close; the W/L ratios will start to even out.
EDIT: Really the spawns are one of the things that are making matches less competative. When a better team gets on a roll, the game tends to spawn you into **** storms over and over again. It is hard to come back from that. And yes I am talking about ambush as if it were THE pubmatch because the game currently encourages it through the soft SP cap. |
James-5955
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
151
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Posted - 2013.02.18 13:40:00 -
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There's a match making system? I couldn't tell, I thought it just randomly filled teams with whatever squads and solo runners that were Qed.
I'd like to see a better match making system myself just to make things more interesting. I agree with others that stacking teams and going against unorganized & bad randoms is lame, stacked team just captures everything and has to try to beat each other to kills from the redline :P. While it may be amusing it doesn't require any skill and its boring.
It'd be much better if the match making system tossed squads in matches with other squads and put the solo runners against other solos.. or at least evening it out, so if one team has a squad of 4 the other team gets the next squad of 4. A lot of games have had a better match making system than the one already in place, skill level could be involved as well if they could find a good calculation for that stat. |
nukel head
Knights of No Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.02.18 15:16:00 -
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Pakratpatti TG wrote:I've Played many a matches were it's been stacked against me/us. Hmm guess changing your battle tactics & adapting to the playing field would be a thought. You can't step into a battle & say wooo wait this isn't fair lets even this out..I'd Rflmao off at you! Maybe it's not balanced out to see just how good you can actually be if you have to us of your own thought process with some real tactical play..Just a Thought :S
I think there is a misunderstanding somewhere. I believe what most people are asking for is NOT to make the game easier, just to not CONSISTENTLY have one side completely outmatched by the other in every way. I have been on the receiving end of those matches plenty - no amount of tactics will help against an organized team. All I do is draw all the attention and get gang raped while the rest of my team hides behind the redline. At best I can go into team chat and try to talk to them even though there is rarely anyone else with a mic. I don't think pitting several squads against one or two players is really what it is all about is it? Who couldn't dominate like that? Why are all you so afraid of a more organized enemy? "Duck Hunt" on Nintendo was fun for a little while, but it got boring quick. What if the ducks were able to kill YOU? |
charlesnette dalari
Creative Killers
159
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Posted - 2013.02.18 16:13:00 -
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nukel head wrote:Pakratpatti TG wrote:I've Played many a matches were it's been stacked against me/us. Hmm guess changing your battle tactics & adapting to the playing field would be a thought. You can't step into a battle & say wooo wait this isn't fair lets even this out..I'd Rflmao off at you! Maybe it's not balanced out to see just how good you can actually be if you have to us of your own thought process with some real tactical play..Just a Thought :S I think there is a misunderstanding somewhere. I believe what most people are asking for is NOT to make the game easier, just to not CONSISTENTLY have one side completely outmatched by the other in every way. I have been on the receiving end of those matches plenty - no amount of tactics will help against an organized team. All I do is draw all the attention and get gang raped while the rest of my team hides behind the redline. At best I can go into team chat and try to talk to them even though there is rarely anyone else with a mic. I don't think pitting several squads against one or two players is really what it is all about is it? Who couldn't dominate like that? Why are all you so afraid of a more organized enemy? "Duck Hunt" on Nintendo was fun for a little while, but it got boring quick. What if the ducks were able to kill YOU?
There actually was a game version of duck hunt where they shot back can't remember what its called now. Here is the thing. What is wrong is not so much the matchmaking but rather 3 other issues....
1 We all should start pub matches not placed in a random squad so we have to choose our teammates if we didn't start the match in a pre-made squad. There should also be incentive for squadding up like you can only drop OB if you join a squad. This also solves the problem of random people being made squad leader that have no clue how to be one.
2 We should by default be put into team chat the moment we are in the war barge to encourage communication and so people will group up. This will also help players find a corp to join that they enjoy playing with if they are new and it will foster communication and teamwork.
3 Voice chat should be on by default
These 3 things will solve the problem and then let the matchmaking system do what it is supposed to do put players in matches with similar SP level and ping times. I want the matchmaking system concentrating on making sure the players it groups have similar latency and skills so that we get games with low lag and the opponent is equally skilled in a sandbox WE control. WE the players should make the decision about how to group up as a team not the matchmaking system. |
nukel head
Knights of No Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.02.18 22:30:00 -
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charlesnette dalari wrote:nukel head wrote:Pakratpatti TG wrote:I've Played many a matches were it's been stacked against me/us. Hmm guess changing your battle tactics & adapting to the playing field would be a thought. You can't step into a battle & say wooo wait this isn't fair lets even this out..I'd Rflmao off at you! Maybe it's not balanced out to see just how good you can actually be if you have to us of your own thought process with some real tactical play..Just a Thought :S I think there is a misunderstanding somewhere. I believe what most people are asking for is NOT to make the game easier, just to not CONSISTENTLY have one side completely outmatched by the other in every way. I have been on the receiving end of those matches plenty - no amount of tactics will help against an organized team. All I do is draw all the attention and get gang raped while the rest of my team hides behind the redline. At best I can go into team chat and try to talk to them even though there is rarely anyone else with a mic. I don't think pitting several squads against one or two players is really what it is all about is it? Who couldn't dominate like that? Why are all you so afraid of a more organized enemy? "Duck Hunt" on Nintendo was fun for a little while, but it got boring quick. What if the ducks were able to kill YOU? There actually was a game version of duck hunt where they shot back can't remember what its called now. Here is the thing. What is wrong is not so much the matchmaking but rather 3 other issues.... 1 We all should start pub matches not placed in a random squad so we have to choose our teammates if we didn't start the match in a pre-made squad. There should also be incentive for squadding up like you can only drop OB if you join a squad. This also solves the problem of random people being made squad leader that have no clue how to be one. 2 We should by default be put into team chat the moment we are in the war barge to encourage communication and so people will group up. This will also help players find a corp to join that they enjoy playing with if they are new and it will foster communication and teamwork. 3 Voice chat should be on by default These 3 things will solve the problem and then let the matchmaking system do what it is supposed to do put players in matches with similar SP level and ping times. I want the matchmaking system concentrating on making sure the players it groups have similar latency and skills so that we get games with low lag and the opponent is equally skilled in a sandbox WE control. WE the players should make the decision about how to group up as a team not the matchmaking system.
That could also work, provided there is some basic but decent randomizing of the team roster. There would always be those that would attempt to get a whole corp on one side. Allowing a single squad to group and go in wouldn't be a problem as long as whatever mechanism puts the teams together does the same to both sides. Your method would definitely encourage people to work together. I would be willing to try it. |
Jonny RIC0
ROGUE SPADES
37
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Posted - 2013.02.18 22:37:00 -
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The OP has a reasonable point. I can see no reason why Corp squads can't be distributed more fairly. Having been on the wrong end of an Imperfects / Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunters team, I can sympathise. I ended up 1st on my team by some distance with only 7 kills and 5 deaths. The hardest 7 kills I've earned. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
72
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Posted - 2013.02.18 23:41:00 -
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Sh*t Happens |
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Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2013.02.19 00:09:00 -
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MC2044-Razgriz Polaris wrote:Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! OH MY GOD YES! I COULDN'T AGREE MORE! CCP YOU FOOLS! YOU EVER LIVING FOOLS! PLEASE OH GOD BOW DOWN TO THIS CAREBEAR AND MAKE HIS WISHES COME TRUE! ';..;' you've got to be fu/cking kidding me right? you seriously need to pull your head out of your ass. The match making system is not broken when two organized groups get together. that right there is an example of people doing what this game is designed to do and WORK THE HELL TOGETHER! Quit being a standard issue blueberry and look for the real bugs in the system not the shi't that sets this game apart from every other mindless dic/kbeater game like COD and BF3. WORK TOGETHER WITH YOUR TEAM AND SHUT YOUR CRYING UP!
What this ^ guy said! Iced you are a carebear and only looking to make this game easier for you noobs!
A well balanced matchmaking system? Pffft, what a coward, you deserve all the one sided teams you get!
I don't think some people understand it is not that we don't want to play better people, it is that I am tired of beating up on the new! |
Rubico
BetaMax.
2
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Posted - 2013.02.19 00:11:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! At Lotus and Giant being stacked teams... LMAO i was soloing dumb ****
So? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.19 00:13:00 -
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Rubico wrote:Icedslayer wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! At Lotus and Giant being stacked teams... LMAO i was soloing dumb **** So? Exactly. Everybody who isn't in a squad is soloing, no one gives a **** about them, what makes you special? |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2013.02.19 00:18:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Rubico wrote:Icedslayer wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Icedslayer wrote:So just got done a game against a double stacked team of LOTUS, Giant does that sound even remotely far? Not complaining about my opponents but seriously if they pitted those to against each other and filled the rest in accordingly it would be a epic game. But i'am left with a few KEQ and 1 burgezz guy and the rest dumbass blue dots.
CCP FIX YOUR F@CKING MATCH MAKING!! At Lotus and Giant being stacked teams... LMAO i was soloing dumb **** So? Exactly. Everybody who isn't in a squad is soloing, no one gives a **** about them, what makes you special?
So a team full of randoms versus a team with 2-3 full squads is good matchmaking?
Please explain. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.19 00:29:00 -
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Belzeebub Santana wrote:
So a team full of randoms versus a team with 2-3 full squads is good matchmaking?
Please explain.
My team only has so many clones, and I can only get killed so many times. Whether there's 1 elite squad or two squads, my team is still going to get massacred. That won't really change how many times I die, unless they specifically target me, but now the guys on the other team have to compete for kills against each other.
I will probably get less kills, but f*ck it sh*t happens. We can't always have things our way.
I wouldn't call it good match making, but it's nothing to cry over.
Edit: The match will probably also be over quicker, so I don't have to waste time in a losing battle. So yeah, I don't see a problem. |
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