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De- -Zell
Universal Rangers
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Posted - 2013.02.12 23:27:00 -
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I've heard cross platform gameplay is in the works. Yet, I thought this game was only PS3? Whatever, if cross platform play does come to pass, would be nice to be in the same squad with some people on 360 as I have RL friends who still have a functioning 360. |
Mithridates VI
New Eden Research Foundation
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Posted - 2013.02.12 23:34:00 -
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De- -Zell wrote:I've heard cross platform gameplay is in the works.
Source?
https://dust514.com/ wrote:DUST 514-« brings intense infantry combat, large-scale warfare, and deep character advancement to a free-to-play massively multiplayer shooter, exclusively on the PlayStation-«3 |
aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.12 23:38:00 -
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This is not a request or feedback. |
Snaps Tremor
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.13 00:25:00 -
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PS3 and PS4 would be cross-platform. |
Vir Sigvaldt
RED COLONIAL MARINES
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.02.13 04:28:00 -
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Here's why Dust isn't on the X-box 360 plain and simple: Microsoft said 'no' to cross console. |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.13 04:32:00 -
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De- -Zell wrote: some people still have a functioning 360.
Holly **** streak Batman! |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.13 05:52:00 -
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1. When CCP said "cross-platform" in regards to Dust, they meant the connection between the Dust 514 players (console) and the Eve Online players (PC) through the shared Tranquility server which has been running strong for 10 years already.
2. Originally Dust was made for the X360 as well but Microsoft decided to be a pain in the ass and wanted to charge CCP up the nose for every free update they released. And considering how often CCP deploys hotfixes and updates, that is a large bill to pay. Sony just so happen to make a better offer and was relaxing their MMO policies at the time. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.13 08:01:00 -
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Waved any other red rags to bulls recently? |
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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.13 08:32:00 -
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Moving from Feedback/Requests to General Discussions. |
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2013.02.13 08:34:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Moving from Feedback/Requests to General Discussions.
That's a first >_> |
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usrevenge2
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.13 08:43:00 -
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it won't happen, MS wouldn't allow dust 514 to connect to eve online the way ccp wanted, not to mention to update an xbox game you have to pay MS something like $40,000 each time, there has been at least 4 patches since I started the beta.... let alone the planned free stuff.
furthermore MS would never connect to ps3, so it won't happen, ever. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.02.13 08:44:00 -
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usrevenge2 wrote:it won't happen, MS wouldn't allow dust 514 to connect to eve online the way ccp wanted, not to mention to update an xbox game you have to pay MS something like $40,000 each time, there has been at least 4 patches since I started the beta.... let alone the planned free stuff.
furthermore MS would never connect to ps3, so it won't happen, ever.
DUST514 really does show the difference between Sony and MS doesn't it? Sony ftw. |
Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.13 08:53:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:usrevenge2 wrote:it won't happen, MS wouldn't allow dust 514 to connect to eve online the way ccp wanted, not to mention to update an xbox game you have to pay MS something like $40,000 each time, there has been at least 4 patches since I started the beta.... let alone the planned free stuff.
furthermore MS would never connect to ps3, so it won't happen, ever. DUST514 really does show the difference between Sony and MS doesn't it? Sony ftw.
Yeah it's always the same, some rich f*** sitting in there sandbox and whining abut "That is my money! Give me my money again!"
I'm really happy not to have this "upperclass" problems :D
You know it's a shame, for sure everyone has bills to pay, but always this bitching around that's sick. |
usrevenge2
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.13 09:41:00 -
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MS is only in this position because they were dominant almost this entire generation, they won't be able to afford being like this next gen so a next gen port of dust could happen but doubt it, ccp and sony seem to be getting along fine. |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.13 10:02:00 -
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Vir Sigvaldt wrote:Here's why Dust isn't on the X-box 360 plain and simple: Microsoft said 'no' to cross console.
umm what? they said no to letting dust be free to play, since xbox live, dust was orginaly an xbox title |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.13 11:39:00 -
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Cross Platform is refering the the PS3 - PC connection between DUST 514 and EVE online. It has nothing to do with DUST being on other platforms besides Playstation. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.13 15:18:00 -
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One thing that made me go with the PS3 is the fact that MS tries to screw you over every chance they get. Until recently their system didnt even come with a wireless connection you had to buy a bad one for 30 or a good one for 100. I dont understand how some people can defend their Xbox 360 which has had so many hardware problems plus MS making you pay for every single little thing for the system. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.02.13 15:59:00 -
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De- -Zell wrote:I've heard cross platform gameplay is in the works. Yet, I thought this game was only PS3? Whatever, if cross platform play does come to pass, would be nice to be in the same squad with some people on 360 as I have RL friends who still have a functioning 360.
a miracle in itself |
SYN BLACK XS
Greatness Achieved Through Training
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Posted - 2013.02.13 16:05:00 -
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Each console and online service has its strengths & weaknesses. Neither is superior, really. MS may screw you financially on one thing, while Sony kills support for something that actually makes sense. Theres an even trade-off of stubborn stupidity on both their parts.
Ultimately, they'll have to eventually team up on future titles/hardware/services in order to make the console market/related technology progress past where they are now. As far as this goes, yes, MS would most certainly have a problem with the Dust concept because of Xbox Live, a service that members are already paying for, and which includes services that would come in conflitc with in-game features. Yes, MS charges ridiculous fees for patch implementation, and it takes forever, but thats theyre way of encouraging devs to get the fix right the first time. Its no easy task for MS, as each patch/fix goes through extensive testing in-house before being rolled out to John Q public. Sony wanted an exclusive FPS w/ potential to rival the halo series and saw this as their opportunity, so of course they jumped at it, but theyre lazy & sometimes heavy handed approach to supporting these types of titles is spotty at best, and title suicide at the worst.
Just be glad we (Ps3 users) even have such an opportunity to play a cross platform title, and pray Sony does it and CCP justice as far as their support goes. The only other times this has happened was Shadowrun for the 360/PC which didnt fair well at all. That game had some real potential as well. |
Ademis Kalel
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.02.13 16:26:00 -
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PC is the platform they are referring to when mentioning cross platform. Now stop dreaming about microsoft and sony opening that door.
Side note: why is there always the same story xbox vs. PS3 on every forum. Just stop. |
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.13 16:39:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Vir Sigvaldt wrote:Here's why Dust isn't on the X-box 360 plain and simple: Microsoft said 'no' to cross console. umm what? they said no to letting dust be free to play, since xbox live, dust was orginaly an xbox title
I don't think that's true,considering that Dust didn't have a F2P model when they initially approached MS.Also remember,initially this game was going to cost $20 with microtransactions.
From what I've always heard,MS wouldn't let CCP use their own servers to host the game,so CCP said C-Ya!
Sony has given CCP much more freedom on PSN than any other game,and more than MS would've allowed. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.13 16:51:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Vir Sigvaldt wrote:Here's why Dust isn't on the X-box 360 plain and simple: Microsoft said 'no' to cross console. umm what? they said no to letting dust be free to play, since xbox live, dust was orginaly an xbox title I don't think that's true,considering that Dust didn't have a F2P model when they initially approached MS.Also remember,initially this game was going to cost $20 with microtransactions. From what I've always heard,MS wouldn't let CCP use their own servers to host the game,so CCP said C-Ya! Sony has given CCP much more freedom on PSN than any other game,and more than MS would've allowed.
Dust did originally have a charge for it of about $20 that was basically a one-time payment like you would have with Guild Wars and that was it and the money you spent became AURUM that you can spend in-game. But CCP changed their minds to go with free-to-down-and-play. Besides, much of their revenue comes from Eve Online subscriptions.
You are also correct to assume that Microsoft just didn't like the idea of a game like Dust operating through their network from a server they have no control over.
EDIT:
As an example of how greedy Microsoft really is and how they can ruin things, you only need to look at the recent history of their Flight Simulator series that started back in 1984 up until 2010. The Microsoft Flight Simulator franchise includes a very well-established community of third-party freeware developers because the open architecture of the simulator enabled developers to create content on a level that makes Eve Online players jealous. From entire scenery to accurately modeled historical aircraft whose flight dynamics were extremely accurate to the point where they even rivaled Microsoft's stock models.
Almost everything was free in terms of downloadable aircraft because they were created and submitted by third-party developers who just wanted to contribute. There were also third-party developers that created a business out of this such as Abacus ( http://www.abacuspub.com/shop/index.php ) which featured even greater addons as a reasonable price.
Everything was well up until 2011 or later when Microsoft released "Microsoft Flight" (the successor to Microsoft Flight Simulator X).
Notice anything different with the recent design?
1. Free to download and play (not bad).
2. Severely limited content that only includes an small chain of the Hawaiian Islands (what?).
3. Stock models are not fully developed (no 3D cockpit - what?)
4. Dynamics of the models were so lame that the avid simulator enthusiasts compared the handling to an arcade game (oh dear).
5. Can only be purchased from the Windows Live service.
It was #5 that broke the camel's back on this one. It was also the final nail in the coffin for third-party freeware developers because the game (no longer considered a simulator by everyone's standards) no longer allowed freeware addons to be inputted without the approval from Microsoft and without making it so that users have to pay for said addon.
But that's not the worst of it.
http://www.polygon.com/gaming/2012/7/25/3187649/microsoft-vancouver-lays-off-staff-cancels-projects
MS Flight is now dead. 
Microsoft, why were you named after a genital part?
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Ima Leet
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.13 21:18:00 -
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DropKickSuicide wrote:De- -Zell wrote: some people still have a functioning 360. Holly **** streak Batman!
lol my thoughts exactly when i read this! 
semperfi1999 wrote:One thing that made me go with the PS3 is the fact that MS tries to screw you over every chance they get. Until recently their system didnt even come with a wireless connection you had to buy a bad one for 30 or a good one for 100. I dont understand how some people can defend their Xbox 360 which has had so many hardware problems plus MS making you pay for every single little thing for the system.
yup, theres more too, i just had friends ask me why an xbox would delete all their USB files... well idk i've never owned one. but google told me you first need to place USB in to xbox first to let it "format" it and then place files on it.. if you put files first then xbox just deletes them all haha... wtf?
Sobriety Denied wrote:De- -Zell wrote: a functioning 360. a miracle in itself
QFT |
Ima Leet
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.13 21:21:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Vir Sigvaldt wrote:Here's why Dust isn't on the X-box 360 plain and simple: Microsoft said 'no' to cross console. umm what? they said no to letting dust be free to play, since xbox live, dust was orginaly an xbox title I don't think that's true,considering that Dust didn't have a F2P model when they initially approached MS.Also remember,initially this game was going to cost $20 with microtransactions. From what I've always heard,MS wouldn't let CCP use their own servers to host the game,so CCP said C-Ya! Sony has given CCP much more freedom on PSN than any other game,and more than MS would've allowed.
crazy is a horrible troll, he's been trying since like.. E3? idk what his problem is.
SYN BLACK XS wrote:Sony wanted an exclusive FPS w/ potential to rival the halo series and saw this as their opportunity
lolwut? source? xbox was offered this title so it is not sonys answer to halo LMAO |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
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Posted - 2013.02.13 21:31:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:One thing that made me go with the PS3 is the fact that MS tries to screw you over every chance they get. Until recently their system didnt even come with a wireless connection you had to buy a bad one for 30 or a good one for 100. I dont understand how some people can defend their Xbox 360 which has had so many hardware problems plus MS making you pay for every single little thing for the system.
Xbox Live.
While I don't deny that M$ has screwed over their consumers A LOT over the years they have proven that Xbox live is the superior online service. M$ has also screwed over a lot of Devs in the past but Developers continue to make games specifically for the 360 and port them over to the PS3 because of how much easier it is. Which is also the reason why games that would make sense to be on the PS3 are exclusive to the 360. |
Ima Leet
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.13 21:44:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:One thing that made me go with the PS3 is the fact that MS tries to screw you over every chance they get. Until recently their system didnt even come with a wireless connection you had to buy a bad one for 30 or a good one for 100. I dont understand how some people can defend their Xbox 360 which has had so many hardware problems plus MS making you pay for every single little thing for the system. Xbox Live. While I don't deny that M$ has screwed over their consumers A LOT over the years they have proven that Xbox live is the superior online service. M$ has also screwed over a lot of Devs in the past but Developers continue to make games specifically for the 360 and port them over to the PS3 because of how much easier it is. Which is also the reason why games that would make sense to be on the PS3 are exclusive to the 360.
to each his own, i do not find Xbox Live superior in any way. cross game chat? idgaf
a buddy has it, he couldn't find anyone to play with, apparently he had a server setting set for child? or something so he wasn't being put in to online games til he chose a new "server"? why split the online community like that?
games such as COD? i dont play it, apparently still use Peer To Peer... tell me, why is that so much better that the PS3 that does it for free? haha
XBL does not make my Netflix a better experience, nor does it make video or voice chat better (free on ps3)
everyone has their own feelings, my opinion is the Xbox controller is returded* and horrible
*misspelled on purpose for those with their own feelings |
N1ck Comeau
REGULATORS OF VALOR
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.13 22:01:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:De- -Zell wrote:I've heard cross platform gameplay is in the works. Source? https://dust514.com/ wrote:DUST 514-« brings intense infantry combat, large-scale warfare, and deep character advancement to a free-to-play massively multiplayer shooter, exclusively on the PlayStation-«3
Eve players can use orbital strikes thats all, and xbox wont do it because they dont want ccp using there own servers they want them to use Microsofts servers
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IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
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Posted - 2013.02.13 22:16:00 -
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Ima Leet wrote:
to each his own, i do not find Xbox Live superior in any way. cross game chat? idgaf
a buddy has it, he couldn't find anyone to play with, apparently he had a server setting set for child? or something so he wasn't being put in to online games til he chose a new "server"? why split the online community like that?
games such as COD? i dont play it, apparently still use Peer To Peer... tell me, why is that so much better that the PS3 that does it for free? haha
XBL does not make my Netflix a better experience, nor does it make video or voice chat better (free on ps3)
everyone has their own feelings, my opinion is the Xbox controller is returded* and horrible
*misspelled on purpose for those with their own feelings
That's where you're wrong friend Xbox live does do everything the PS3 does and better, from the marketplace to the features, voice chat, presentation, friends list, accessibility, netflix, billing, personal messages and more. I'm not kidding I own both consoles and this is simply the truth, am I saying that the PSN/PS3 is bad? No, it just lacks in comparison to Xbox live, there's a reason one is free and the other is not.
Xbox Live = IPad
PSN = 3rd party knockoff but still gets the job done |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.13 22:25:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:Ima Leet wrote:
to each his own, i do not find Xbox Live superior in any way. cross game chat? idgaf
a buddy has it, he couldn't find anyone to play with, apparently he had a server setting set for child? or something so he wasn't being put in to online games til he chose a new "server"? why split the online community like that?
games such as COD? i dont play it, apparently still use Peer To Peer... tell me, why is that so much better that the PS3 that does it for free? haha
XBL does not make my Netflix a better experience, nor does it make video or voice chat better (free on ps3)
everyone has their own feelings, my opinion is the Xbox controller is returded* and horrible
*misspelled on purpose for those with their own feelings
That's where you're wrong friend Xbox live does do everything the PS3 does and better, from the marketplace to the features, voice chat, presentation, friends list, accessibility, netflix, billing, personal messages and more. I'm not kidding I own both consoles and this is simply the truth, am I saying that the PSN/PS3 is bad? No, it just lacks in comparison to Xbox live, there's a reason one is free and the other is not. Xbox Live = IPad PSN = 3rd party knockoff but still gets the job done
The heck are you smoking. Netflix is TRASH on the xbox compared to ps3. It doesn't even continue playing the next episode without manually doing it yourself like early trash hulu. And then I have to pay 2 fees to use this inferior product found for one price on the ps3? And it still has load up stops? I have my xbox360 ethernet connected while my Ps3 is wireless - why is the PS3 running smoother?
The only thing MS has on Sony is that it's social endeavors to help people communicate is better. It's organization blows equally to Sonys - it's billing blows equally - everything is pretty much garbage on both systems. The only organization pat on the back I give MS is that they tell you when a game is local play or not - that's it.
Personally - I want DUST514 on Wii-u WAY more then Xbox3shitty. Imagine the RTS elements that could be added with that game-pad? *Drools* |
Slaytanical
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.02.13 22:33:00 -
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I have both an xbox and a xbox 360,
i use the old xbox to prop the bedroom door open at night allowing my dog access to the foot of the bed,
and the xbox 360 i use as a foot rest when i clip my toenails, other than that have not found a good use for either really. in a good long time  |
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