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Shaszbot
Angels of Anarchy AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:42:00 -
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Assigning the kill to whomever did the most damage wouldn't work.
People like the OP that are bent on getting the kill score wouldn't waste ammo on a guy I just sniped into <50% health. They'd wait until he healed a bit, then go try kill him.
Or they'd post something on the forums about how snipers purposefully keep leaving enemies half-dead so he can't get any kills. |
GetShotUp
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:48:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:GetShotUp wrote: You really don't know so stop feeding me opinions, trying to make them sound like facts and come at me with real facts which you obviously can't unless you ask a dev yourself.
But sloth, i guess our discussion is over because you're not trying to understand what I'm trying to say and you clearly just want your opinions to be shoved down my throat. You shared yours and that it, its over. i guess you win? idk, I'm not sure how to get you to stop posting so I'm telling you, you win. Your opinion sounds the best. you should tell the devs your idea or something.
The problem with your entire thread is that you have no way of knowing what another person is trying do, they're all your assumptions. They could be trying to help you, they could be trying to steal your kill, you have no way of knowing what it is they're doing. Are you psychic, can you read their minds through a TV screen? If you can't then you should stop talking, because unless you ask them yourself, you have no idea what it is your talking about, so stop trying to present you assumptions as facts. I'm not saying "complicated" as in hard, I'm saying "complicated" as in unnecessary. The current system works, I'm not sure why you insist on changing it. Look at what I just underlined in your post. my thread is about that. I wasn't targeting specific users, telling them that they do this which you could have called me out on making assumptions on certain players, but thats not the case.
But we're done ;)
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:56:00 -
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You made a thread about something you have no way of knowing. That's your fault, just like people stealing your kills.
Like Ike I said before, a friend and I kill steal from each other all the time. It's not easy. The only way to steal a kill is for the other person to make a mistake. They either missed, had to reload, or they didn't do enough damage. If you have enough time to aim and shoot, then you have enough time to land the kill. If you didn't land the kill, then it's your own fault.
You're telling us that there are "snipers" who look for 1v1 fights, that they know exactly when you're going to mess up, and how much damage you have to inflict before their shot becomes lethal? If their timing and accuracy is that great, why didn't they just land a head shot?
But yeah, we're done. |
GetShotUp
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:57:00 -
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Shaszbot wrote:Assigning the kill to whomever did the most damage wouldn't work.
People like the OP that are bent on getting the kill score wouldn't waste ammo on a guy I just sniped into <50% health. They'd wait until he healed a bit, then go try kill him.
Or they'd post something on the forums about how snipers purposefully keep leaving enemies half-dead so he can't get any kills.
See, this is what I'm being accused of, making an assumption about a specific player that I've never played with. You can squad up with me and then post back here. I know how to be a team player and I definitely wouldn't run away from a target that i see is almost dead. Depending on the situation in the game, i can tell if the player has it handled. I've KS myself, but never with the wrong intentions, only if I see if the player is getting shot or reloading. idk, theres a lot of diff scenarios, but I know how i play and you definitely do not since we've never even played together and if we did, I never noticed you. And you're mentioning snipers LOL oh jeez, did you even read the first sentence in my OP?
LOL@ "he can't get any kills" I want to play with you. You down? |
GetShotUp
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.02.11 21:05:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:You made a thread about something you have no way of knowing. That's your fault, just like people stealing your kills.
Like Ike I said before, a friend and I kill steal from each other all the time. It's not easy. The only way to steal a kill is for the other person to make a mistake. They either missed, had to reload, or they didn't do enough damage. If you have enough time to aim and shoot, then you have enough time to land the kill. If you didn't land the kill, then it's your own fault.
You're telling us that there are snipers who look for 1v1 fights, that they know exactly when you're going to mess up, and how much damage you have to inflict before their shot becomes lethal? If their timing and accuracy is that great, why didn't they just land a head shot?
But yeah, we're done. Just like me making a thread about something I don't know if people do, how can you debate against that and say people don't do it? how would you know? you don't, either. All opinions, right? And 2 people can easily be hitting the same target and whoever has last bullet, takes the kill. its not complicated, its actually very simple. you're trying to just complicate things, trying to start a whole other debate which is going to be as silly as the first one so lets just drop it. there are so many other threads you can post on. So, we're done? Good. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.11 21:17:00 -
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Did I say those people don't exist? No, I didn't. I have no way of proving that, it's impossible to prove a negative. All I said is you have no proof that they do. What's next, a thread about the existence of unicorns?
BTW: If you've read what I said, then you'd see I actually said I felt sorry for anyone who resorted to that.
Oh, so now I can guarantee that my bullet will be the one that lands the killing blow? What do I have to do, pray to the random number god?
You keep saying this is over.... and then you keep replying |
SSBBW Amber
Church of the Unforgiven
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Posted - 2013.02.11 21:27:00 -
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I have a sniper and I ALWAYS snipe the guy that is easiest to kill. Why shouldn't I? That's like saying something has to be done about heavy's who run out of ammo right before a kill and some assault guy comes over and gets the kill instead. Deal with it. Some people will complain about anything.
Wait I have it, I know the solution, lets put timers on everyone and maybe we can also put locks on players so that only the player who was shooting at another player first can get the kill, and if the attacker dies, then the attackee can be shot by someone else. But if the attacker just runs out of ammo or the attackee gets behind cover, then the attackee can't be shot by anyone else for 30 seconds, so we can make sure that all your shields and armor are repped.
Doesn't that sound stupid? So does the OPs complaint. |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2013.02.11 21:29:00 -
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Let me sum it up for OP.
Basicly, majority of people here are saying that we are fine with the type of person who intentionally attack weaker enemies with mind set to KS purposely That is our opinion in the matter. |
GetShotUp
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.02.11 21:32:00 -
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Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Let me sum it up for OP.
Basicly, majority of people here are saying that we are fine with the type of person who intentionally attack weaker enemies with mind set to KS purposely That is our opinion in the matter. No one is saying they are fine with it, majority of people here are trying to speak on their defense saying that they don't do that intentionally. Did you even read all 4 pages because I did. |
GetShotUp
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.02.11 21:38:00 -
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SSBBW Amber wrote:I have a sniper and I ALWAYS snipe the guy that is easiest to kill. Thats where I stopped reading since I'm not talking about snipers. I see snipers having less the advantage since they're all the way in the back and I find it easy to dodge and take cover from a sniper so Its okay if they attack weaker targets since most of the time, if it isn't a headshot, it'll take like 2 shots to kill a target? I'm speaking out of the experience of getting shot from a sniper because I've never actually sniped myself. :) |
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GetShotUp
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.02.11 21:42:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Did I say those people don't exist? No, I didn't. I have no way of proving that, it's impossible to prove a negative. All I said is you have no proof that they do. What's next, a thread about the existence of unicorns? BTW: If you've read what I said, then you'd see I actually said I felt sorry for anyone who resorted to that. Oh, so now I can guarantee that my bullet will be the one that lands the killing blow? What do I have to do, pray to the random number god? You keep saying this is over.... and then you keep replying I said it was over, then you said it was over and we both replied so what are you trying to get at? lol Okay, its definitely over, though. I'm not going to say anything else since i'll just feed you something to reply with. peace :) |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.11 21:51:00 -
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GetShotUp wrote: No one is saying they are fine with it, majority of people here are trying to speak on their defense saying that they don't do that intentionally. Did you even read all 4 pages because I did.
They said it. At least I said it. For 4 pages, we tried to say it mildly, being helpful and give you some tips. It seem you don't get the message at all. You keep insisting that we get it all wrong and we derail the thread. You just want to cry about KS / want to change the system. We are saying that won't get you anywhere. |
Ronan Elsword
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.02.11 21:53:00 -
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I haven't noticed this so far in the game. Yes it's annoying when you do almost all the damage and the bugger runs behind cover and someone else gets him, but it's not a big deal. You still get half the war points for it so it doesn't hurt you that much. Also It's good people take out the weaker because that's less firepower coming down on you. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2013.02.11 21:57:00 -
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Sorry but I don't feel like reading through this thread.
Has anyone suggested distributing WP based on how much damage you do? And either leave it at that and let the guy who delivers the killing blow get the kill or give the kill to the guy that does the most damage. |
GetShotUp
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.02.11 22:06:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Sorry but I don't feel like reading through this thread.
Has anyone suggested distributing WP based on how much damage you do? And either leave it at that and let the guy who delivers the killing blow get the kill or give the kill to the guy that does the most damage. Yeah, someone here said that and it wouldn't be a bad idea. Majority of post here is just extra BS that isn't really about the topic really so don't worry about it |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
71
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Posted - 2013.02.11 22:10:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
Mollerz! I just wanted to say I zap'd you with my LR the other day.
How'd my ill' friend taste? Minty?
Your name reminds me of x-files, so its something I recognize and focus on lol.
lol! hey dude. I seldom get toasted by lazers.. i must have been in my assault suit.
the truth is out there...
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AFdog
Imperial Populicide Legion
1
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Posted - 2013.02.11 22:17:00 -
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GetShotUp wrote:Shaszbot wrote:Assigning the kill to whomever did the most damage wouldn't work.
People like the OP that are bent on getting the kill score wouldn't waste ammo on a guy I just sniped into <50% health. They'd wait until he healed a bit, then go try kill him.
Or they'd post something on the forums about how snipers purposefully keep leaving enemies half-dead so he can't get any kills. See, this is what I'm being accused of, making an assumption about a specific player that I've never played with. You can squad up with me and then post back here. I know how to be a team player and I definitely wouldn't run away from a target that i see is almost dead. Depending on the situation in the game, i can tell if the player has it handled. I've KS myself, but never with the wrong intentions, only if I see if the player is getting shot or reloading. idk, theres a lot of diff scenarios, but I know how i play and you definitely do not since we've never even played together and if we did, I never noticed you. And you're mentioning snipers LOL oh jeez, did you even read the first sentence in my OP?LOL@ "he can't get any kills" I want to play with you. You down?
We all KNOW you are not picking on any specific person or actual snipers, so why are you getting bent when a sniper speaks up? We Snipers see KS alot, both shoot at same target at same time, a running red and can't quite make the leading shot but another does, the reds ducking into cover after I hit him once and the other still has the shot, etc..
The point being made above is if you award the kill to person does the most damage, then as a sniper I would have 20+ kills a match. Bunch of reds attacking a point, I hit those I can leaving most with less than 50% health and the muddogs defending the point finish them (I get alot of assists, but with your damaged based system means LOTS of kills for me). If thats what you want, then fine by me, just don't open a thread later on complaining about snipers getting all the kills. PERSONALLY I don't really care who gets the kill as long as that red dies, I'm still getting WPs for it.
Finally, you started the thread to speak about KS, then get upset because people aren't agreeing with you! LOL You are in a 1v1 and doing fine and will kill the red, blueberry comes around a corner and starts shooting at the undead red and gets the kill! So what, growup, it is but only a game.
PS: Only a person obsessed with KDR would even bring up the subject, have you even looked at the leader board for KDR??? |
GetShotUp
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.02.11 22:29:00 -
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AFdog wrote:GetShotUp wrote:Shaszbot wrote:Assigning the kill to whomever did the most damage wouldn't work.
People like the OP that are bent on getting the kill score wouldn't waste ammo on a guy I just sniped into <50% health. They'd wait until he healed a bit, then go try kill him.
Or they'd post something on the forums about how snipers purposefully keep leaving enemies half-dead so he can't get any kills. See, this is what I'm being accused of, making an assumption about a specific player that I've never played with. You can squad up with me and then post back here. I know how to be a team player and I definitely wouldn't run away from a target that i see is almost dead. Depending on the situation in the game, i can tell if the player has it handled. I've KS myself, but never with the wrong intentions, only if I see if the player is getting shot or reloading. idk, theres a lot of diff scenarios, but I know how i play and you definitely do not since we've never even played together and if we did, I never noticed you. And you're mentioning snipers LOL oh jeez, did you even read the first sentence in my OP?LOL@ "he can't get any kills" I want to play with you. You down? We all KNOW you are not picking on any specific person or actual snipers, so why are you getting bent when a sniper speaks up? We Snipers see KS alot, both shoot at same target at same time, a running red and can't quite make the leading shot but another does, the reds ducking into cover after I hit him once and the other still has the shot, etc.. The point being made above is if you award the kill to person does the most damage, then as a sniper I would have 20+ kills a match. Bunch of reds attacking a point, I hit those I can leaving most with less than 50% health and the muddogs defending the point finish them (I get alot of assists, but with your damaged based system means LOTS of kills for me). If thats what you want, then fine by me, just don't open a thread later on complaining about snipers getting all the kills. PERSONALLY I don't really care who gets the kill as long as that red dies, I'm still getting WPs for it. Finally, you started the thread to speak about KS, then get upset because people aren't agreeing with you! LOL You are in a 1v1 and doing fine and will kill the red, blueberry comes around a corner and starts shooting at the undead red and gets the kill! So what, growup, it is but only a game. PS: Only a person obsessed with KDR would even bring up the subject, have you even looked at the leader board for KDR??? Okay, everything is just becoming repetitive so no point to keep posting. read above, the discussion is over but I guess everyone has to share their opinions to feel good even if the whole 4 pages is basically the same crap lol Thanks for the input, you win too.
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GetShotUp
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.02.11 22:31:00 -
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And lol at the alts as if no one notices. Just use your main account to say everything you have to say. Everyone is against me and I'm not standing down or using other chars to back myself up. hahaha wow |
mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
425
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Posted - 2013.02.12 18:42:00 -
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James-5955 wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I shoot anybody, rather they almost dead or not. If I see somebody in 1v1 gunfight I will come in and take kill. I expect the same in return. I will never whine YOU STOLE MY KILL! Unless I am joking. Exactly. It can be annoying at times, and usually I'm the one annoying other people by doing it. After playing FPS games for so long I've gotten ridiculous sick, and tired, of holding back from shooting enemies just so that I can observe and wait to see if my teammate wins a gunfight. It's a bad habit IMO and it doesn't cut it when playing against good players, if it's red and you have the chance to make it dead, make it so.
Totally agree with my comrades. Just kill the reds. PERIOD. If I kill a guy, I'm not concerned as to who did most of the work, and if someone "steals my kill" good for them. Either way, it brings us that much closer to victory.
If you're really concerned about your "1v1" prowess... wait for the "battle arena/competitive gaming" component to be introduced. Supposedly it's coming down the road. You'll be able to battle guys 1v1 and others will even be able to bet on it. |
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Shaszbot
Angels of Anarchy AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2013.02.12 21:05:00 -
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GetShotUp wrote:Not the ones with sniper rifles. I'm talking about the people that purposely wait for you to weaken an enemy to snipe that last little bit of health away. I hope they fix this as to where in these situations, the person who has done the most damage, takes the kill and the other, the assist.
Do you run into these type of people?
EDIT: Also, **** YOU if you do this on purpose.
It took me a few readings to understand that when the OP says "Snipers" and "snipe", he really only means kill-stealers in general, no matter what weapon.
Free clue OP: if you're talking about panda bears, don't call them llamas. Use the right term. You might get better discussion.
Also, your idea is still bad for the reason I posted earlier - and you're too worried about who got the kill. Move on.
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Daddrobit
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
277
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Posted - 2013.02.12 21:39:00 -
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OH NOOOOOOO
My team got 75 points towards our next OB instead of 50, (or 90 if we were frago'd) this transgression against my individual cannot be sanctioned!!! |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.12 21:44:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:OH NOOOOOOO
My team got 75 points towards our next OB instead of 50, (or 90 if we were frago'd) this transgression against my individual cannot be sanctioned!!!
Only communists care about the team. |
Rus Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
6
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Posted - 2013.02.23 19:02:00 -
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GetShotUp wrote:Not the ones with sniper rifles. I'm talking about the people that purposely wait for you to weaken an enemy to snipe that last little bit of health away. I hope they fix this as to where in these situations, the person who has done the most damage, takes the kill and the other, the assist.
Do you run into these type of people?
EDIT: Also, **** YOU if you do this on purpose.
The game is about winning a battle, or a war, not staring at your KDR. A killed enemy is a tactical advantage, no matter who gets the credit. I always first try to finish the enemies that I have best chance of finishing - it would be tactically insane to do anything else.
And especially as a sniper, heavies are something I can't kill alone, unless they are very, very stupid. |
Rus Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
6
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:36:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:there's no other FPS that does it any different. if you notice FPS vets will hold their fire because they have perfected the art of kill steal and are waiting for the noob to do the opening damage. can't beat em join em so dont be that noob who attacks first be the vet who steals the kill. or leave the pack; because that all important squad could possibly be cramping your style.
This in incorrect. The world of EVE is persistent and un-sharded. This means your reputation carries with you. Many people have found it easier to biomass their character and start building all the SP from scratch than to fix a seriously bad reputation. The world of EVE does not forget.
This is also why we have corps and alliances and standings; to keep the people who are not assholes closer to us and to know who to never co-operate with. You can bet that the major Dust corporations already have intel files on the people who always put their own e-peen over common good. And such intel file causes doors stay closed for you for years, if not forever. |
DAMIOS82
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.02.24 00:06:00 -
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Sometimes i take the kill shot, sometimes the assist. the way i see it, its a co-op game and the goal is to win by all means necessary. If i see someone beeing swarmed, i'll just open fire and whether it's my kill or his/hers does not matter. Since the foe is dead or wounded and in that case who ever is down there can take them out more easely. But mainly i snipe for other snipers or the loner that's running around. But like i said, who cares who gets the kill, it's just a means to an end. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
110
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Posted - 2013.02.24 01:03:00 -
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no such thing as kill stealing.
an enemy is an enemy. doesn't matter who kills em.
just that they get dead.
Peace B |
Bishop Harcourt
OMNI Endeavors
0
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Posted - 2013.02.24 08:03:00 -
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I ran in a squad awhile back where the SL kept the defence order on himself and only fired on red dots we weakend first. It took us a few minutes for me to realize what he was doing(i am a logibro,k/d not that important to me)was what the OP is talking about. Even after the fatty I was looking after called him out on it, he still refused to engage the enemy still we knocked them down to almost no hp. Didn't stop him from yelling to be rezzed, repped, ect.. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
110
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Posted - 2013.02.24 14:50:00 -
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right:
he was sl.
you either take the order or get the f outta his squad.
why do guys not get that? your job is to follow the sl orders.
and only kd codbois care about kd.
real players go for the win by any means needed.
Peace B |
Philipp Achtel
Immobile Infantry
3
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:34:00 -
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If I weaken a red dot with a few mass driver rounds and you come in for the kill, I will be happy for the help, not crying that my mah precious killz were stolen from me. |
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