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Sloth9230
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Posted - 2013.02.11 03:38:00 -
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Me and a friend do this to each other to **** each other off. I try to avoid doing it to to others, but it's kind of hard. The way I see it, it's your own fault for not killing them fast enough anyway. |
Sloth9230
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Posted - 2013.02.11 03:54:00 -
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Sete Clifton wrote: I see a red in a position where I can shoot them and do damage, I don't hesitate to do so. The game (and most shooters) often moves too fast to think about whether I'm "stealing" someones kill. I've seen teammates with the advantage get outgunned and killed, if I had done something then they might have lived and our team would be better off.
This.
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Sloth9230
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Posted - 2013.02.11 05:18:00 -
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GetShotUp wrote:Well, it seems like none of you do this purposely so no worries, this isn't directed to you (obviously) and there sure are people who do things like this. Maybe they don't play like this all of the time, but they sure take advantage of it when the opportunity is given. I definitely help my teammates get a kill, but if I see someone going 1v1 and they're doing good, I let them be. If they lose, that's on them. I, PERSONALLY, would want that person to let me go against that enemy. If I lose, than that helps me see what i did wrong and what i could have done to win that battle. I love me an intense battle and i respect when someone guns me down on their own. When it comes to my squad, I'm shooting everyone thats shooting at them. My squad being my corpmates since I don't squad up with randoms.
We're all different type of gamers and thats just the way I play in public matches.
And this goes to some of you above. If you don't do this, why post something defensive as if i were directing this mainly to you? I don't get why most people on forums are so damn defensive, lol. I'm just assuming some of you feel guilty because you do this. why else feel defensive? I wouldn't if I read something like this because i know what kind of player i am. I KNOW when you're in the heat of the game, you KS sometimes. thats why I said P-U-R-P-O-S-E-L-Y or in Spanish a prop+¦sito. Everyone just assumed I was talking about the accidental KSing.
Does ANYONE here understand where i'm coming from? Anyone that can read and comprehend.
The problem is that your assuming people do it to get kills, and not because the're just shooting at a random red. There probably are those who do it for the kills, but how can you tell them apart from the people who are just trying to help you? I've actually been killed in a 2 on 1 before. So if I see a red alive, I will shoot at them, even if one of my teammates is already doing it.
Some people give too much importance to their KDR. If there's people who kill steal just to improve it, then I feel sorry for them. They aren't enjoying this game as much as they should be.
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.11 06:58:00 -
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Maybe they already had them in their sights, and then you went and started shooting up their target? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.11 07:16:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:I'd like it if the game awarded the kill to whoever dealt the majority of damage to the victim tracked over 30 seconds. Second place gets a kill assist, even if they dealt the "killing blow".
I almost kill a guy... and then I die. You're telling me that I deserve to get the kill just because some random teammate finished him off for me? Then the people who are only out to get kills will just let people recover so they can get the kill themselves, even if it ends up screwing their own team over. At least the current system somewhat encourages teamwork.
Edit: Maybe kill assists should just be counted as half kills? You'd need 2 kill assists for it to register as a kill, but any remainders wouldn't roll over into your score. So you can't end a match at .5 and then get the other .5 in another match. |
Sloth9230
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Posted - 2013.02.11 08:11:00 -
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GetShotUp wrote:
No, that's not how it should be. If two people are shooting at one target, the person who dealt more damage deserves the kill fair and square and the other person gets the assist. If two people are shooting at one target and the person that dealt the most damage on the target dies BEFORE the target is dead, he should get the assist because the way you're explaining would be idiotic. That's just what makes sense IMO
You realize that you just made the "kill" system unnecessarily complicated right? Now the system has to check if your still alive every time you get a kill, just so people wont "steal" your kills. Which system is more idiotic now?
If people picking off your kills is such a problem, then maybe you should kill your targets so they have nothing to pick off?
WPs, not kills, should just be awarded based on damage dealt. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.11 19:15:00 -
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Say I throw a grenade as I die? If it kills someone then I won't get the kill because I'm also dead. Your system is completely unnecessary, that's what makes it complicated. Simple is better. Whoever killed someone, got the kill. You wish to create a completely new system of checks just because you're getting a few kills stolen? I get like 20 kill assists per match, I don't mind. If you do care, then you should work on getting kills faster. Improve your aim, do more damage, idk, but complaining about kill stealing in a shooter? Who cares if the guy was right next to you or 100 feet away with a sniper rifle? Just do your job and quit worrying about how others are playing.
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Sloth9230
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Posted - 2013.02.11 19:40:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:what amazes me is there's actually ppl who scream on the mic for help and then they get pissed when you steal their kills
Oh sh*t, oh sh*, OH SH*T!!!... HEY, WAT DA FUK??? YOU STOLE MY KILL!!! F*CKING B*TCH.
Really now? I stole "your" kill? looked to me like I was saving your ass. |
Sloth9230
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:41:00 -
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GetShotUp wrote: You really don't know so stop feeding me opinions, trying to make them sound like facts and come at me with real facts which you obviously can't unless you ask a dev yourself.
But sloth, i guess our discussion is over because you're not trying to understand what I'm trying to say and you clearly just want your opinions to be shoved down my throat. You shared yours and that it, its over. i guess you win? idk, I'm not sure how to get you to stop posting so I'm telling you, you win. Your opinion sounds the best. you should tell the devs your idea or something.
The problem with your entire thread is that you have no way of knowing what another person is trying do, they're all your assumptions. They could be trying to help you, they could be trying to steal your kill, you have no way of knowing what it is they're doing. Are you psychic, can you read their minds through a TV screen? If you can't then you should stop talking, because unless you ask them yourself, you have no idea what it is your talking about, so stop trying to present you assumptions as facts.
I'm not saying "complicated" as in hard, I'm saying "complicated" as in unnecessary. The current system works, I'm not sure why you insist on changing it.
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:56:00 -
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You made a thread about something you have no way of knowing. That's your fault, just like people stealing your kills.
Like Ike I said before, a friend and I kill steal from each other all the time. It's not easy. The only way to steal a kill is for the other person to make a mistake. They either missed, had to reload, or they didn't do enough damage. If you have enough time to aim and shoot, then you have enough time to land the kill. If you didn't land the kill, then it's your own fault.
You're telling us that there are "snipers" who look for 1v1 fights, that they know exactly when you're going to mess up, and how much damage you have to inflict before their shot becomes lethal? If their timing and accuracy is that great, why didn't they just land a head shot?
But yeah, we're done. |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.11 21:17:00 -
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Did I say those people don't exist? No, I didn't. I have no way of proving that, it's impossible to prove a negative. All I said is you have no proof that they do. What's next, a thread about the existence of unicorns?
BTW: If you've read what I said, then you'd see I actually said I felt sorry for anyone who resorted to that.
Oh, so now I can guarantee that my bullet will be the one that lands the killing blow? What do I have to do, pray to the random number god?
You keep saying this is over.... and then you keep replying |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.12 21:44:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:OH NOOOOOOO
My team got 75 points towards our next OB instead of 50, (or 90 if we were frago'd) this transgression against my individual cannot be sanctioned!!!
Only communists care about the team. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.24 18:30:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: WAAAAAAAAAAA NERF SNIPERS!!!
Go to Call of Duty.
I don't want to live on this planet anymore. |
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