The problem is that your assuming people do it to get kills, and not because the're just shooting at a random red. There probably are those who do it for the kills, but how can you tell them apart from the people who are just trying to help you?

There is no Kill Steal in Dust 514. There is only Team Work.

Then you brand those who help other teammate as a KS ? There you go, your team work.

HTFO

i'm always KSing.... wassup

No, thank you. But I would love to see you clarify how you determine your purposely. How do you know it is not accidental ? And even on purpose, how do you seperate those who help you out of goodwill and those who just hunger for one more kill. Did you ask them one by one afterward ? It doesn't matter either way. Do you prefer all you teammates just be on standby waiting until the enemy kill you before they moving in ? Will that make them better team player ? or an A-hole ?? Also, does the one who is more concerned over his own kill rather than team effort a good team player ? or an A-hole ??



My first language is Thai. The easiest way for you to make me understand is to write it in Thai. Then, we will see how is your Thai compare to my English.

Green dot(squad member) says: You ok there @GetShotUp

GetShotUp: Yeah i got this fool...

Random blue dot: OH!!! THAT RED DOT IS ALMOST DEAD....HOPE I GET THE KILL.. pew pew +50 wp...

thats -25 wp for our squad... so far all i see in this game guys that aren't team orientated therefore they aren't shooting to help, they shooting to up their K/D

Purely because of this thread; if i ever see you, I'm going to try to kill whoever you're killing. I do not normally do this purposefully, however i am a strong believer that in a team based game (such as this one), team efficiency (more kills, less deaths for the team) is maximised when players work together, and in numbers. To this end, I actively seek to help teammates in their engagements to further increase their likelihood of success in determining victory. Regardless of how players work together (in concert or otherwise) in a pub match, the goal for everyone (I would assume) is to win. Stop being so egocentric and concerned with how many kills you get and be more concerned with how you're affecting the match outcome.

I almost kill a guy... and then I die. You're telling me that I deserve to get the kill just because some random teammate finished him off for me? Then the people who are only out to get kills will just let people recover so they can get the kill themselves, even if it ends up screwing their own team over. At least the current system somewhat encourages teamwork.

Edit: Maybe kill assists should just be counted as half kills? You'd need 2 kill assists for it to register as a kill, but any remainders wouldn't roll over into your score. So you can't end a match at .5 and then get the other .5 in another match.

It happens quite a bit in my heavy fit, I'll be mowing down some poor red with my HMG and some blueberry will jump right into my line of fire, block my bullets and still my kill.

While on one hand it is silly to complain about it because at the end of the day, your team got the kill and that is what matters. But it does cause problems when you are almost able to get an orbital but you are just short because someone repeatedly stole my kills.

You realize that you just made the "kill" system unnecessarily complicated right? Now the system has to check if your still alive every time you get a kill, just so people wont "steal" your kills. Which system is more idiotic now?

If people picking off your kills is such a problem, then maybe you should kill your targets so they have nothing to pick off?

WPs, not kills, should just be awarded based on damage dealt.

Say I throw a grenade as I die? If it kills someone then I won't get the kill because I'm also dead. Your system is completely unnecessary, that's what makes it complicated. Simple is better. Whoever killed someone, got the kill. You wish to create a completely new system of checks just because you're getting a few kills stolen? I get like 20 kill assists per match, I don't mind. If you do care, then you should work on getting kills faster. Improve your aim, do more damage, idk, but complaining about kill stealing in a shooter? Who cares if the guy was right next to you or 100 feet away with a sniper rifle? Just do your job and quit worrying about how others are playing.

what amazes me is there's actually ppl who scream on the mic for help and then they get pissed when you steal their kills

The problem with your entire thread is that you have no way of knowing what another person is trying do, they're all your assumptions. They could be trying to help you, they could be trying to steal your kill, you have no way of knowing what it is they're doing. Are you psychic, can you read their minds through a TV screen? If you can't then you should stop talking, because unless you ask them yourself, you have no idea what it is your talking about, so stop trying to present you assumptions as facts.

I'm not saying "complicated" as in hard, I'm saying "complicated" as in unnecessary. The current system works, I'm not sure why you insist on changing it.

Assigning the kill to whomever did the most damage wouldn't work.

People like the OP that are bent on getting the kill score wouldn't waste ammo on a guy I just sniped into <50% health. They'd wait until he healed a bit, then go try kill him.

Or they'd post something on the forums about how snipers purposefully keep leaving enemies half-dead so he can't get any kills.

You made a thread about something you have no way of knowing. That's your fault, just like people stealing your kills.

Like Ike I said before, a friend and I kill steal from each other all the time. It's not easy. The only way to steal a kill is for the other person to make a mistake. They either missed, had to reload, or they didn't do enough damage. If you have enough time to aim and shoot, then you have enough time to land the kill. If you didn't land the kill, then it's your own fault.

You're telling us that there are snipers who look for 1v1 fights, that they know exactly when you're going to mess up, and how much damage you have to inflict before their shot becomes lethal? If their timing and accuracy is that great, why didn't they just land a head shot?

But yeah, we're done.

Let me sum it up for OP.

Basicly, majority of people here are saying that
we are fine with the type of person who intentionally attack weaker enemies with mind set to KS purposely
That is our opinion in the matter.

I have a sniper and I ALWAYS snipe the guy that is easiest to kill.

Did I say those people don't exist? No, I didn't. I have no way of proving that, it's impossible to prove a negative. All I said is you have no proof that they do. What's next, a thread about the existence of unicorns?

BTW: If you've read what I said, then you'd see I actually said I felt sorry for anyone who resorted to that.

Oh, so now I can guarantee that my bullet will be the one that lands the killing blow? What do I have to do, pray to the random number god?

You keep saying this is over.... and then you keep replying

Sorry but I don't feel like reading through this thread.

Has anyone suggested distributing WP based on how much damage you do? And either leave it at that and let the guy who delivers the killing blow get the kill or give the kill to the guy that does the most damage.

We all KNOW you are not picking on any specific person or actual snipers, so why are you getting bent when a sniper speaks up? We Snipers see KS alot, both shoot at same target at same time, a running red and can't quite make the leading shot but another does, the reds ducking into cover after I hit him once and the other still has the shot, etc..

The point being made above is if you award the kill to person does the most damage, then as a sniper I would have 20+ kills a match. Bunch of reds attacking a point, I hit those I can leaving most with less than 50% health and the muddogs defending the point finish them (I get alot of assists, but with your damaged based system means LOTS of kills for me). If thats what you want, then fine by me, just don't open a thread later on complaining about snipers getting all the kills. PERSONALLY I don't really care who gets the kill as long as that red dies, I'm still getting WPs for it.

Finally, you started the thread to speak about KS, then get upset because people aren't agreeing with you! LOL
You are in a 1v1 and doing fine and will kill the red, blueberry comes around a corner and starts shooting at the undead red and gets the kill! So what, growup, it is but only a game.

PS: Only a person obsessed with KDR would even bring up the subject, have you even looked at the leader board for KDR???