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Bounty notice posted on the general Discussion Forum.

Run while you can tanker.

Tanks need nerfed because you went 56-0.

I have went 56-0 and know how to play and fit tanks. I am playing since open beta and have 2,600 ish kill with 3.2 KD. So stop writing comments as if I am noob and do not know how to play.

No AV vs HAV is not fine.

AV is balanced with the other variations of AV its just that HAV resistances at the moment are rubbish, this is what CCP should look at not AV balance, you shouldnt be able to solo a HAV user that knows what they are doing but it happens.

Any smart AV user throws the grenade over the HAV so the hit detections is at the opposite side to the AV user, that way the HAV driver has the wrong idea where its coming from and will most likely try to escape in your direction leading to an easy kill.

Only people that say AV is fine are the ones using it.

(also nerf armor tanks they are OP and buff shields)

You guys are going way off topic, just because its possible to go 50-0 in a tank doesnt make it OP. Snipers can do that also.

The fact is HAV are underpowered compared to the easily available AV. Basic AV does 1200 damage an ADV tank will maybe have 5k-6k HP thats 5 hits? you carry 3 AV nades all you need is a nanohive, you get 3 shots in a militia forge you only have to reload once, you only have to catch the tank off guard and its a free kill.

I barely skimmed this thread, but the OP gave me a great idea. Wouldn't it be cool if I could fit packed AV shells into my Mass Driver?

Av grenades are ridicuolusly powerful. A clone, Av grenade and a nanohive is all it takes to destroy a tank that has Shield+Armor of 10K. This is bull-****. I invest tons of ISK and all my SP and someone who nearly has never invested SP on AV destroys my 680,000 ISK worth tank. Sure people that dont use tanks would not want those things nerfed because it is the easy way out.
CCP NERF THE AV GRENADES AND REMOVE MILITIA SWARMS..
AND people are still talking about attaching swarms to LAVs.

I barely skimmed this thread, but the OP gave me a great idea. Wouldn't it be cool if I could fit packed AV shells into my Mass Driver?

Why AV grenades are unfair...

Wait, isn't this New Eden?

You know, the home of the Minmatar?

The guys who routinely put nuclear warheads in bullets to kill things with?

And you wonder how AV nades can threaten a tank?

Oh boy. I hear the "fanboy" retorts coming over the hills.

It's actualy true though. they put nuclear warheads on EVERYTHING related to ammo/explosives.

Makes you wonder why the Heavy Machine Gun isn't more powerful =P

Yeah because you do not want newbies to cry, destroy a good tank driver with a little to no investment solo. Good job and better appreciation of balance

because the rounds are hybrid rounds. it's hard to explain but it's basicly a normal round with plasma in it. putting a nuclear warhead would be extreamly hard to do. and with Minmatar being more tribal (and lower tech) and all, impossable.

Dust 514 : Pooping On A Tank With AV Grenades

http://youtu.be/VYSFlrBs0s4

O_o Source?

HMG is Minmatar, I figured...

Are you kidding? The resistances on the tanks a few builds ago was RIDICULOUS and they were nigh impossible to kill.

The fact they use "plasma rounds" means that it's a Hybrid weapon. also, i never said that Minmatar made the HMG, just that it's more likely the reason why HMG dose less damage. the only weapon that's Minmatar is the SMG, which should have explosive rounds in them. however, it dosn't explain why AR's out damage HMG's sence in RL HMG use a 50cal. bullets. even a Gatling gun has this size ammo and they pack more of a punch then our AR's

They don't use plasma rounds, even the devs confirmed this is a minmatar weapon along with the mass driver.