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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:28:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:Vaerana Myshtana wrote:BOZ MR wrote:I have went 56-0 and know how to play and fit tanks. I am playing since open beta and have 2,600 ish kill with 3.2 KD. So stop writing comments as if I am noob and do not know how to play. Then stop QQing... AV is fine. Tanks are fine. No AV vs HAV is not fine. AV is balanced with the other variations of AV its just that HAV resistances at the moment are rubbish, this is what CCP should look at not AV balance, you shouldnt be able to solo a HAV user that knows what they are doing but it happens. Any smart AV user throws the grenade over the HAV so the hit detections is at the opposite side to the AV user, that way the HAV driver has the wrong idea where its coming from and will most likely try to escape in your direction leading to an easy kill. Only people that say AV is fine are the ones using it. (also nerf armor tanks they are OP and buff shields)
Are you kidding? The resistances on the tanks a few builds ago was RIDICULOUS and they were nigh impossible to kill. |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:31:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:You guys are going way off topic, just because its possible to go 50-0 in a tank doesnt make it OP. Snipers can do that also.
The fact is HAV are underpowered compared to the easily available AV. Basic AV does 1200 damage an ADV tank will maybe have 5k-6k HP thats 5 hits? you carry 3 AV nades all you need is a nanohive, you get 3 shots in a militia forge you only have to reload once, you only have to catch the tank off guard and its a free kill.
Right, because if you catch ANYTHING off guard in this game it usually dies pretty quickly.
Snipers.
Heavies.
Guys hacking objectives...
It's the nature of the game. Just because you got caught off guard (meaning you didn't have someone protecting you, lol) doesn't mean that AV is overpowered it just means that YOU DUN GOOF'D.
You guys ever play Battlefield 2/3? A tank sucks to deal with but it doesn't take much to kill them, and they usually don't QQ whenever they do die. |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 10:13:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:I barely skimmed this thread, but the OP gave me a great idea. Wouldn't it be cool if I could fit packed AV shells into my Mass Driver? 
Love this |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 11:10:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Why AV grenades are unfair...
Wait, isn't this New Eden?
You know, the home of the Minmatar?
The guys who routinely put nuclear warheads in bullets to kill things with?
And you wonder how AV nades can threaten a tank?
Oh boy. I hear the "fanboy" retorts coming over the hills. |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 11:19:00 -
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JohnDS Wolf wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Why AV grenades are unfair...
Wait, isn't this New Eden?
You know, the home of the Minmatar?
The guys who routinely put nuclear warheads in bullets to kill things with?
And you wonder how AV nades can threaten a tank? Oh boy. I hear the "fanboy" retorts coming over the hills. It's actualy true though. they put nuclear warheads on EVERYTHING related to ammo/explosives.
Makes you wonder why the Heavy Machine Gun isn't more powerful =P |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 11:28:00 -
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JohnDS Wolf wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:JohnDS Wolf wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Why AV grenades are unfair...
Wait, isn't this New Eden?
You know, the home of the Minmatar?
The guys who routinely put nuclear warheads in bullets to kill things with?
And you wonder how AV nades can threaten a tank? Oh boy. I hear the "fanboy" retorts coming over the hills. It's actualy true though. they put nuclear warheads on EVERYTHING related to ammo/explosives. Makes you wonder why the Heavy Machine Gun isn't more powerful =P because the rounds are hybrid rounds. it's hard to explain but it's basicly a normal round with plasma in it. putting a nuclear warhead would be extreamly hard to do. and with Minmatar being more tribal (and lower tech) and all, impossable.
O_o Source?
HMG is Minmatar, I figured... |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 14:02:00 -
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Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote:JohnDS Wolf wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:
O_o Source?
HMG is Minmatar, I figured...
The fact they use "plasma rounds" means that it's a Hybrid weapon. also, i never said that Minmatar made the HMG, just that it's more likely the reason why HMG dose less damage. the only weapon that's Minmatar is the SMG, which should have explosive rounds in them. however, it dosn't explain why AR's out damage HMG's sence in RL HMG use a 50cal. bullets. even a Gatling gun has this size ammo and they pack more of a punch then our AR's They don't use plasma rounds, even the devs confirmed this is a minmatar weapon along with the mass driver.
Yeah, thank you - I went and looked it up and the HMG was produced by Boundless Creation; a Minmatar Republic NPC corporation.
So, no - it's not a hybrid weapon.
Edit: That and the fact that it even -looks- like a Minmatar weapon based on it's traditional "rustic" look. See what I did there? |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 14:46:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Tank: 1 driver
AV: 1 grenadier
1 v 1 is fair to me, most fair fight in EVE. If you bring the battleship and lose to a frigate it's your own damn fault.
Killed a Vindicator with a Myrmidon once, believe it or not. |
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Posted - 2013.02.09 08:42:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote:Seven. With no damage bonuses (Myrm is a drone boat). And they're smaller. And the Vindy has more drone bandwidth than the Myrm.
That said, you can tank the **** out of a Myrm and Vindies usually use blasters, so it'd be possible to kite it. Well the real threat would be the Vindi's drones, so just focus them down and it's death of a thousand cuts for the Vindi if he doesn't have small size turrets... ...just like the real threat is the tank's support troops and once they're gone the tank can be easily focused down. What, had to get back on topic, so I may as well make this as relevant as possible.
Used a shield tanked Myrmidon with an X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster. Took out the drones then lit him up with the Ion blasters and kept the afterburner going.
By the way - the Drone Damage Amplifier II's work wonders  |
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