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Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:24:00 -
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This has gotten ridiculous.
Yes, I'm mad lol.
I just played a game, with I'd say 7 people doing objectives the rest sniping in the redline. It's recorded too :P
Its just extremely annoying atm, Yes I can switch out to a sniper class and counter snipe, yes I did, yes all I got was hit detection bugs :)
Kinda crazy this stuff hasn't been fixed, fix the hit detection or fix the redline, whichever is the easiest. This game should be about getting the objectives, not hiding for KDR.
wen't from 17-1 to 17-9 because they all started sniping :)
At the end I just spawned in the MCC and let my team get cloned, regardless we were gunna win from the enemy MCC damage.
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Livith Kai
Area 519
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:25:00 -
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itt: please fix something that is making me mad. I do not like it. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:27:00 -
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Livith Kai wrote:itt: please fix something that is making me mad. I do not like it.
Doesn't matter bro, everyone is irritated with this crap.
Dev's say they're looking into it, hurry it up. |
Halador Osiris
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:28:00 -
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A bit off topic, but I keep hearing people talk about the hit detection bug. Can someone elaborate? |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:29:00 -
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Halador Osiris wrote:A bit off topic, but I keep hearing people talk about the hit detection bug. Can someone elaborate?
Pretty much(in sniping) When you shoot at another sniper ect. all you see are shields flash around them, but you will never get a hit.
Even if you put your entire clip into one dead on, it won't do a thing to them. |
Livith Kai
Area 519
16
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:30:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Livith Kai wrote:itt: please fix something that is making me mad. I do not like it. Doesn't matter bro, everyone is irritated with this crap. Dev's say they're looking into it, hurry it up.
Everyone will always hate snipers, if it's not QQing about redline it will be something else.
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IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:32:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Halador Osiris wrote:A bit off topic, but I keep hearing people talk about the hit detection bug. Can someone elaborate? Pretty much(in sniping) When you shoot at another sniper ect. all you see are shields flash around them, but you will never get a hit. Even if you put your entire clip into one dead on, it won't do a thing to them.
Pretty much, Happens with the AR a lot too. As for redline sniping, only play ambush so thats the end of that. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:32:00 -
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Livith Kai wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Livith Kai wrote:itt: please fix something that is making me mad. I do not like it. Doesn't matter bro, everyone is irritated with this crap. Dev's say they're looking into it, hurry it up. Everyone will always hate snipers, if it's not QQing about redline it will be something else.
I'm fine with snipers, I even enjoying using them now and then,
By removing the redline your forcing snipers to leave their lil' safety net and have the possibility of being flanked ect, whereas atm. you'll be dead before ever reaching them due to the unsafe zone.
and i'm pretty sure snipers like Sleepy Zan would **** your face in or out of the redline, don't think i've ever seen him camp the redline tbh.
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Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:33:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Halador Osiris wrote:A bit off topic, but I keep hearing people talk about the hit detection bug. Can someone elaborate? Pretty much(in sniping) When you shoot at another sniper ect. all you see are shields flash around them, but you will never get a hit. Even if you put your entire clip into one dead on, it won't do a thing to them. Pretty much, Happens with the AR a lot too. As for redline sniping, only play ambush so thats the end of that.
Ambush with LR is lame lol.
and I enjoy the objectives, but ya I suppose your right, until the fix it up abit. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
47
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:35:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Halador Osiris wrote:A bit off topic, but I keep hearing people talk about the hit detection bug. Can someone elaborate? Pretty much(in sniping) When you shoot at another sniper ect. all you see are shields flash around them, but you will never get a hit. Even if you put your entire clip into one dead on, it won't do a thing to them.
Doesn't just happen when sniping other snipers, I've had it happen a lot sniping at red dots in general. I think it has something to do with the actual models of items on the battlefield. I've noticed that it happens most for me when they are near objectives, if they're hacking, it is a craps shoot if they're going to fall over when I shoot them. |
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Livith Kai
Area 519
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:36:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
I'm fine with snipers, I even enjoying using them now and then,
By removing the redline your forcing snipers to leave their lil' safety net and have the possibility of being flanked ect, whereas atm. you'll be dead before ever reaching them due to the unsafe zone.
and i'm pretty sure snipers like Sleepy Zan would **** your face in or out of the redline, don't think i've ever seen him camp the redline tbh.
I pretty much only snipe. Never in the Redline, that is silly. I just wish people could go find the butts they lost and stop QQing all over the forums.
Fixing hit detection is all that is really needed. If your team can't counter-snipe a redline sniper... Well... They should stop being bad. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
445
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:42:00 -
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Livith Kai wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
I'm fine with snipers, I even enjoying using them now and then,
By removing the redline your forcing snipers to leave their lil' safety net and have the possibility of being flanked ect, whereas atm. you'll be dead before ever reaching them due to the unsafe zone.
and i'm pretty sure snipers like Sleepy Zan would **** your face in or out of the redline, don't think i've ever seen him camp the redline tbh.
I pretty much only snipe. Never in the Redline, that is silly. I just wish people could go find the butts they lost and stop QQing all over the forums. Fixing hit detection is all that is really needed. If your team can't counter-snipe a redline sniper... Well... They should stop being bad.
Pretty sure OP said fix hit detection or redline, also said I switched to counter sniping.
This is a broken game mechanic. Not some OP QQ thread. you know, with OP Nerf threads you weigh the good and the bad ect.
when theres nothing on the good side to weigh, its broke. |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
174
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:44:00 -
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i say if they are in the redline, they wont get any points till they leave |
Livith Kai
Area 519
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:49:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:i say if they are in the redline, they wont get any points till they leave So then what about when all the points are in control of the enemy? They are at the border of the redline camping your team? A sniper will get no points for trying to help get out of that situation?
Doesn't sound like a good idea to me. |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:55:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:This has gotten ridiculous.
Yes, I'm mad lol.
I just played a game, with I'd say 7 people doing objectives the rest sniping in the redline. It's recorded too :P
Its just extremely annoying atm, Yes I can switch out to a sniper class and counter snipe, yes I did, yes all I got was hit detection bugs :)
Kinda crazy this stuff hasn't been fixed, fix the hit detection or fix the redline, whichever is the easiest. This game should be about getting the objectives, not hiding for KDR.
wen't from 17-1 to 17-9 because they all started sniping :)
At the end I just spawned in the MCC and let my team get cloned, regardless we were gunna win from the enemy MCC damage.
Strange.. some people at this stage have 'connection problems'. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
445
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:56:00 -
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Livith Kai wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:i say if they are in the redline, they wont get any points till they leave So then what about when all the points are in control of the enemy? They are at the border of the redline camping your team? A sniper will get no points for trying to help get out of that situation? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
game should simply end,
have a timer countdown from the start of you being redlined, say 5 minutes.
If you can't capture an objective in that amount of time, end the game. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
445
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:57:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:This has gotten ridiculous.
Yes, I'm mad lol.
I just played a game, with I'd say 7 people doing objectives the rest sniping in the redline. It's recorded too :P
Its just extremely annoying atm, Yes I can switch out to a sniper class and counter snipe, yes I did, yes all I got was hit detection bugs :)
Kinda crazy this stuff hasn't been fixed, fix the hit detection or fix the redline, whichever is the easiest. This game should be about getting the objectives, not hiding for KDR.
wen't from 17-1 to 17-9 because they all started sniping :)
At the end I just spawned in the MCC and let my team get cloned, regardless we were gunna win from the enemy MCC damage.
Strange.. some people at this stage have 'connection problems' .
naa, its a bug, has nothing to do with connection.
Don't you read the weekly bug reports? |
LXicon
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:59:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:...and i'm pretty sure snipers like Sleepy Zan would **** your face in or out of the redline, don't think i've ever seen him camp the redline tbh.
no, he just sits and guards the MCC to earn his SP if he doesn't feel like playing the match :) |
Shadow Archeus
Wraith Shadow Guards
38
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:11:00 -
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I don't mind seeing a couple snipers but I've seen matches where the ENTIRE enemy team is redline sniping or sitting on mountains.....now if this was a game of ambush I'd say good job but this has gotten out of hand in skirmish.....its supposed to be about objectives not your precious kdr |
Morathi III
Rebelles A Quebec
57
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:36:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:This has gotten ridiculous.
Yes, I'm mad lol.
I just played a game, with I'd say 7 people doing objectives the rest sniping in the redline. It's recorded too :P
Its just extremely annoying atm, Yes I can switch out to a sniper class and counter snipe, yes I did, yes all I got was hit detection bugs :)
Kinda crazy this stuff hasn't been fixed, fix the hit detection or fix the redline, whichever is the easiest. This game should be about getting the objectives, not hiding for KDR.
wen't from 17-1 to 17-9 because they all started sniping :)
At the end I just spawned in the MCC and let my team get cloned, regardless we were gunna win from the enemy MCC damage.
Even on our side this game was about sniper i agree , but you get blast by me and capiteneeti QC and we dont have snipe XD, by chance we are 2 but your the only imps on the other way, see you in other skirmish and i wish is not about sniping |
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Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
915
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:40:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Halador Osiris wrote:A bit off topic, but I keep hearing people talk about the hit detection bug. Can someone elaborate? Pretty much(in sniping) When you shoot at another sniper ect. all you see are shields flash around them, but you will never get a hit. Even if you put your entire clip into one dead on, it won't do a thing to them.
I have never experienced this, personally. Sucks if it happens to you though I don't think it is consistent or prevalent - it if were there would be less snipers. |
capitaineeti QC
Rebelles A Quebec
5
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Posted - 2013.02.06 01:51:00 -
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Yes its stupid when the 1/2 of the team snipe and NOBODY help the team, but your not dead 8 time by sniper... I kill you like 5-6 time with my GEK ^^ |
Mars El'Theran
Red Rogue Squadron Heart 0f Darkness
52
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Posted - 2013.02.06 02:00:00 -
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I snipe from the redline on one map if it is a bloodbath, just to stay in game till the end of match mostly. Usually I don't get much in the way of kills because it has a terrible view, and lag, and everyone bouncing-jigging-wobbling.
Used to be sniping on that map was a death sentence. Anywhere you were, you got shot in the back in short order, including that particular hill.
Now everyone snipes and nobody does anything, and the view is terrible. Yeah, change it. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2013.02.06 02:35:00 -
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Redline sniping would be largely solved by adding bullet drop/travel time and scope sway to sniper rifles. These are mechanics that would make shooting at very long ranges as a sniper harder to do. Snipers who want to get kills would move in a bit closer to the action, while snipers who refuse to put themselves in any danger will find themselves much less effective.
Forlorn Destrier wrote:I have never experienced this, personally. Sucks if it happens to you though I don't think it is consistent or prevalent - it if were there would be less snipers.
It is a common issue, and has been with Dust for as long as I can remember. Having 10% of your shots or something (I don't know exactly how common it is, but you'll experience it every game at least) not do damage to a target isn't enough to deter most snipers. Sniping is still the easiest way to get a large number of kills with very few deaths. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2013.02.06 03:23:00 -
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This is not new. You give people maps surrounded by mountains, what do you think they gonna do?
Every map feels like I'm playing in a bowl, just literally surrounded by mountains. Give people the tools to play in a ***** manner, and they'll use it.
Put mountains overlooking all the objectives, and punish the people playing the objective while rewarding the camping sniper for doing nothing more than looking down his scope. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
168
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Posted - 2013.02.06 03:56:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Redline sniping would be largely solved by adding bullet drop/travel time and scope sway to sniper rifles. These are mechanics that would make shooting at very long ranges as a sniper harder to do. Snipers who want to get kills would move in a bit closer to the action, while snipers who refuse to put themselves in any danger will find themselves much less effective.
First off, there's no bullet. It's a flechette. Flechette's have a flatter, more stable, flight trajectory and better penetration. And at 2500+ meters per second, they are rail guns after all, travel time would be negligible at the current maximum range. Nearly unnoticeable at the ranges I've seen most snipers firing from. As for stabilization, even now, we have gyro stabilization for sniper rifles and other long arm weapons, usually when vehicle mounted. What's to say that technology wouldn't improve in 20K years?
Forlorn Destrier wrote:I have never experienced this, personally. Sucks if it happens to you though I don't think it is consistent or prevalent - it if were there would be less snipers.
Yes, it does suck. But it's fun when counter sniping actually works against them.
Fivetimes Infinity wrote:It is a common issue, and has been with Dust for as long as I can remember. Having 10% of your shots or something (I don't know exactly how common it is, but you'll experience it every game at least) not do damage to a target isn't enough to deter most snipers. Sniping is still the easiest way to get a large number of kills with very few deaths.
And the glitch isn't limited to sniper rifles. I've had it happen with scramblers as well. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2013.02.06 04:01:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:First off, there's no bullet. It's a flechette. Flechette's have a flatter, more stable, flight trajectory and better penetration. And at 2500+ meters per second, they are rail guns after all, travel time would be negligible at the current maximum range. Nearly unnoticeable at the ranges I've seen most snipers firing from. As for stabilization, even now, we have gyro stabilization for sniper rifles and other long arm weapons, usually when vehicle mounted. What's to say that technology wouldn't improve in 20K years?
You're right, there is no bullet. It's a video game, after all. It's whatever the code says it is. Right now, it says it's hitscan, but if they want to have a projectile with drop and so on like I described, it could be changed to that without any major trouble, I'm sure. Thanks for the description of gun stuff I guess, but what matters is what makes the game fun and balanced. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2013.02.06 04:13:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Redline sniping would be largely solved by adding bullet drop/travel time and scope sway to sniper rifles. These are mechanics that would make shooting at very long ranges as a sniper harder to do. Snipers who want to get kills would move in a bit closer to the action, while snipers who refuse to put themselves in any danger will find themselves much less effective. First off, there's no bullet. It's a flechette. Flechette's have a flatter, more stable, flight trajectory and better penetration. And at 2500+ meters per second, they are rail guns after all, travel time would be negligible at the current maximum range. Nearly unnoticeable at the ranges I've seen most snipers firing from. As for stabilization, even now, we have gyro stabilization for sniper rifles and other long arm weapons, usually when vehicle mounted. What's to say that technology wouldn't improve in 20K years?
lol @ bringing real life into this...GG
Balance > reality
If that wasn't the case then in all FPS a single bullet from any gun would kill anyone.
While we're bringing real life into this, where's my shades? I mean I'm a super soldier yet the sun glare blinds me? |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
445
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Posted - 2013.02.06 04:14:00 -
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capitaineeti QC wrote:Yes its stupid when the 1/2 of the team snipe and NOBODY help the team, but your not dead 8 time by sniper... I kill you like 5-6 time with my GEK ^^
Yes yes, but only twice before I had already been hit with a sniper round or two. |
Pyrielone
Reaper Galactic
4
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Posted - 2013.02.06 04:14:00 -
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As a sniper who dabbles in ar frontline combat I agree the red line should lift at a point that forces player's to go out and do something. Hell anything im not saying run out and die because the imperfects have u boxed back to your primary spawn beacuse if it has gone that far then u deserve the beat down for not really trying. When I get pushed back to spawn and it does happen since u can't pad the match with nothing but your Corp mates ill pull out that scout with dampeners run around the edge of a map and set up an uplink behind the farming spot. To me this is simple logic because I don't plan to give up on any match I walk into. The closest I get to that is switching to a free suit before I run out into the mix. |
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