I've never experienced a tank camp from the mountain before, but it proved to be match breaking. I'm wondering what the general thoughts are on what could have been done to counter him?

I still can't believe how badly screwed we got at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oar8vxI7V7w&feature=youtu.be

Ahh scrubbery at its best.

You can go there where the tank is. You just need to pass some seconds in the red line, but then you just go from behind,

package granades with a nanohive and done.

We took a LAV up behind him and started fragging him, he just drove off the mountain :(, decided at that point to just focus WP for the airstrike.

You sure there's no chance to hit him with a forge gun?

If you know how he plays, just talk with some friend and wait for him down in the ground. Update your granade skills, it's very usefull. A "sniper tank" it's kinda easy to kill, because they need time to get speed so you can spam at least 4 granades. Just with 1 one friend you can spam I don't know, at least 6, 7. I don't know how much granades do you need to destroy a Madrugar for example, but with 5/6 package granades, you can destroy a madrugar with 5000 armor (more or less).

If he goes down, just talk with some friend to wait for him with a forge gun, or a rocket launcher, or more grandes.

1 vs 1 against a tank, it's more difficult, but it can be possible too. You can use remote explosives too. If he's sniping, just drop it close to him, then spam granades. You can try different ways. Keep trying.

Sorry for the english. See you.

PS: proximity explosives works too.

Thanks for the advice, I guess when a tank is that well protected that it takes 3-4x the people to take it down passing through the enemy red line it seems like a map problem. Most of the time you can ignore a really powerful tank and still have some hope of winning on other objectives. When the tank can target every objective at the same time from one location, and the only way to kill him is to come up behind him fully exposed (look what happened to the guy before me on the hill) it seems like a pretty big advantage for one side.

It's the redline that causes this problem. Tank or infantry sniper makes no difference, to be getting kills in a "safe" area is a byproduct of **** poor map design.

Well, you must think that he invests his sp and isk in tanks. Yeah, it's powerfull, but he takes more risk if he loses his tank. So, a 80 000 ISK suit can't kill easy a 500 000 ISK tank, I mean, it's not ok if you can do it with 1 granade.

In this case, you can go where the tank is.

Edited: but yes, some maps have "interesting" red line designs

I used to deal with this quite a bit during the pre missle nerf days. My own way of dealing with them is to load a militia armour tank with a Lg rail turret and just hit him from across the map. Either you'll destroy him (unlikely) or you'll drive him back into cover or out of his position, the latter is preferable as the tanker will usually expose himself as he then comes to hunt you down.

In such a situation it's imperative that you are AV armed and some of your team is as well and on comms. Mainly because there is a good chance he is a better tanker than you are if you are in this situation. So hit him a bit with your cheap tank then about halfway through the slog BAIL, I cannot stress this enough if you are an AV skilled player at all leave the tank he will keep shooting it. The enemy players who tend to use the above tactic usually follow this trend and the tank also give you some handy cover.

Also before people ask why I used Armour tanks in the pre missile nerf days, simple I'm a heavy with lot's of sp in armour more for them to chew through, and now it's even more useful.

I hope this helps you a bit,

Snag

I used to deal with this quite a bit during the pre missle nerf days. My own way of dealing with them is to load a militia armour tank with a Lg rail turret and just hit him from across the map. Either you'll destroy him (unlikely) or you'll drive him back into cover or out of his position, the latter is preferable as the tanker will usually expose himself as he then comes to hunt you down.

In such a situation it's imperative that you are AV armed and some of your team is as well and on comms. Mainly because there is a good chance he is a better tanker than you are if you are in this situation. So hit him a bit with your cheap tank then about halfway through the slog BAIL, I cannot stress this enough if you are an AV skilled player at all leave the tank he will keep shooting it. The enemy players who tend to use the above tactic usually follow this trend and the tank also gives you some handy cover for you to finish him off from.

Also before people ask why I used Armour tanks in the pre missile nerf days, simple I'm a heavy with lot's of sp in armour more for them to chew through, and now it's even more useful.

I hope this helps you a bit,

Snag

Bad Furry, Trolling with his tank since 2012 rofl. Know whats funny? he runs with militia level tanks (for now haha) with the highest powered guns lol. I've had good times both killing his tanks and running with him. Nice vid. I'm sure he will find this thread, if not I'll be sure to mention it. Good times

If you don't have a good tank you will get one shot by those rails.

In retrospect we should have had some kind of Anti-Armor waiting below in case he fled the hill. It was the first time dealing with the situation and it was a bit sloppy. Thanks for the good advice. We had a nanohive, and all had AV nades he would have been down at about the same speed as if we were AV Heavies. The hole in our plan was him fleeing.

What map is this red line exploit on? Which corner?

My only advice ... you're not going to kill a tank with that assault rifle !

You were there ... in range with cover ... you just needed some swarm skills ... advanced swarm with 2x enhanced damage mods fits on a type 1 suit with a militia cpu enhancer and an armor plate ... it's cheap, does a hella damage and 3 of them in a LAV would have popped any HAV currently fielded before he reached the bottom of that hill you watched him descend.

Also your OB could have hit him anywhere you wanted there was only one point along his route to under the MCC that he could have changed direction ... lead the target and it'll come down center mass ... especially on that sharp bend near the end where he had to slow down.

Good job posting this HAV sniper position ... now they'll all be up there ... saving grace is we also see how to attack ... just need the right tools for the job !

That was some good stuff! .. Damn downtime! :p

I'm just curious how you would have handled the tank?

I have a feeling this won't be the last time I encounter this situation. With dropships, tanks, forge guns, and missiles not working when he is on the hill it seems like kind of a problem.

Another tank would have tore him up, particularly because for some reason dust tanks don't have any gun depression, so he would have to pull forward giving the opposing tanker a clean shot while he would have to deal with cover.

So it's possible to get a tank through the redline? I'm not a tank driver, but I do know they tend to be pretty damn slow uphill. The LAV took about 12 seconds to get through the redline, then again I did spin out a bit.

Another tank would have tore him up, particularly because for some reason dust tanks don't have any gun depression, so he would have to pull forward giving the opposing tanker a clean shot while he would have to deal with cover.

He could just blast the other tank as it's being dropped off. He can see the entire map, remember?

He could just blast the other tank as it's being dropped off. He can see the entire map, remember?

For the record I was in his squad with my advanced swarm laucher with mods and yet they were unable to reach him. After several reloads I gave up to focus on WP for an OB. Its bad enuff to have snipers up there let alone tanks.

I'm just curious how you would have handled the tank?

I have a feeling this won't be the last time I encounter this situation. With dropships, tanks, forge guns, and missiles not working when he is on the hill it seems like kind of a problem.

Bad Furry, Trolling with his tank since 2012 rofl. Know whats funny? he runs with militia level tanks (for now haha) with the highest powered guns lol. I've had good times both killing his tanks and running with him. Nice vid. I'm sure he will find this thread, if not I'll be sure to mention it. Good times

would this be called an exploit or just good strategy? its not like it was impossible for both teams to get up there.

he's probably referring to the tank camper lol

You can't really blame it on map design though, since DUST isn't a traditional FPS, and will have damn near infinite maps as time goes on. It's annoying, but terrain is used against your enemy in warfare.

I hear what you're saying, but as it is, the map is not balanced, and it's hands down the most boring map in the game.

Having a big mountain overlooking the WHOLE map, every objective, and can only be reached by ONE road easily, and it's even possible to look into spawning areas from there seems ok to you? It's a FPS first and foremost, and what makes ANY FPS good is its map design.

I hear what you're saying, but as it is, the map is not balanced, and it's hands down the most boring map in the game.

I've never experienced a tank camp from the mountain before, but it proved to be match breaking. I'm wondering what the general thoughts are on what could have been done to counter him?

I still can't believe how badly screwed we got at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oar8vxI7V7w&feature=youtu.be

Its a rail tank and sniper map, spreaden your point of view from the assault rifle range and deal with it.

You sure there's no chance to hit him with a forge gun?

would this be called an exploit or just good strategy? its not like it was impossible for both teams to get up there.