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DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.05 05:41:00 -
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Were super soldiers in the future and we cant hold 2 weapons at the same time? |
usrevenge2
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.05 05:47:00 -
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no thanx |
Raze galder
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.05 05:54:00 -
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We can dual wield there called nova knifes really short range and crappy damage. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.05 05:55:00 -
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Gtfo, all that needs to be said. |
Thranx1231
CowTek
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Posted - 2013.02.05 05:56:00 -
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DropKickSuicide wrote:Were super soldiers in the future and we cant hold 2 weapons at the same time? We don't have welders. |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.05 05:58:00 -
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Raze galder wrote:We can dual wield there called nova knifes really short range and crappy damage.
lol I jus dont see why we cant even dual weild side arms. Im not asking for dual wield Laz0rs and HMGs and there would have to a downside other then just not being able to aim. Maybe like no equipment or something? |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.05 06:48:00 -
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DropKickSuicide wrote:Were super soldiers in the future and we cant hold 2 weapons at the same time?
There's no dual wield because this is not halo.
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.05 06:53:00 -
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Sidearms should be mix and match for dual wield (requires two weapon slots though). I would love SMG + Flaylock or Knife + Pistol. Could be a distinguishing feature of sidearms perhaps? Or a just a weapon attribute if we can ditch the heavy/light/side/grenade/equipment labels entirely. |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.05 06:55:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:DropKickSuicide wrote:Were super soldiers in the future and we cant hold 2 weapons at the same time? There's no dual wield because this is not halo.
Didnt know Halo had dual wield. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.05 07:20:00 -
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DropKickSuicide wrote:Were super soldiers in the future and we cant hold 2 weapons at the same time?
Coz it s noobish and gives a cheap feel to any game.. |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.05 07:24:00 -
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I personally don't care as long as its balanced. |
DeathStalker Synchro
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.05 08:16:00 -
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While dual wielding pistols may seem like a great idea it would destroy the look of Dust. Ok, maybe destroy is too strong of a word. But it just doesn't fit. Dual wielding is for games like Halo, Call of Duty, and Borderlands. Those games can aren't taken 100% seriously. And I don't mean that they're jokes in gaming. It's just that a guy running around in Dust with two scrambler pistols looks a bit out of place. But that's just my opinion. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.05 08:20:00 -
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DeathStalker Synchro wrote:While dual wielding pistols may seem like a great idea it would destroy the look of Dust. Ok, maybe destroy is too strong of a word. But it just doesn't fit. Dual wielding is for games like Halo, Call of Duty, and Borderlands. Those games can aren't taken 100% seriously. And I don't mean that they're jokes in gaming. It's just that a guy running around in Dust with two scrambler pistols looks a bit out of place. But that's just my opinion.
We are mercenaries. I don't care if it is suboptimal, having a brand or other signature is as important as you ability to aim. If bonny was known for pot shooting with both pistols (two targets at once) he would be even more legend. That kind of flavor is way more important than "tacti-kool realizm" because it is FUN. |
Cariuss Shadow
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.02.05 08:32:00 -
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Because it will take you three times as long to reload as you holster one weapon to reload the other the repeat. So actually I'm fine with dual wielding as long as you can't aim and it takes forever to reload. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.05 08:47:00 -
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Cariuss Shadow wrote:Because it will take you three times as long to reload as you holster one weapon to reload the other the repeat. So actually I'm fine with dual wielding as long as you can't aim and it takes forever to reload.
Exactly. It doesn't have to be OP, just make it a side-option. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.05 08:54:00 -
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CoD and Halo use dual wielding so people hate dual wielding
Reoccurring pattern I noticed |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.05 09:08:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:CoD and Halo use dual wielding so people hate dual wielding Reoccurring pattern I noticed
Lol ya im noticing this pretty quick.
And tho I do not want this to be like CoD you can have things in common and still be unique thus a FPS MMO RPG
And more variety of play is always a plus in my eyes. Really I dont care if your a heavy with a shotgun and cardiac boosters as long as you have fun and dont hold me back |
Xemos 'Toolz' Kroe
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.05 10:23:00 -
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I like this option.. And whoever says dual wielding pistols, you are all ********... that is something done in life now, So you are saying people of the future become art-tarded and cant hold 2 pistols/SMG?
I give you this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQyUk1gVVGs
It CAN be done... unless like said before, future humans become idiots that cant hold 2 things and squeeze a trigger.. BUT as you can also see, it is VERY inaccurate. And that is all you would have to do for balancing, make it have horrible ride up and a large spray pattern.. Close range will destroy people, any bit of distance makes it worthless. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.05 10:41:00 -
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DropKickSuicide wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:DropKickSuicide wrote:Were super soldiers in the future and we cant hold 2 weapons at the same time? There's no dual wield because this is not halo. Didnt know Halo had dual wield.
Of course it does, dual wield smg's, smg and needler, etc |
Godin Thekiller
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
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Posted - 2013.02.05 10:53:00 -
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Xemos 'Toolz' Kroe wrote:I like this option.. And whoever says dual wielding pistols, you are all ********... that is something done in life now, So you are saying people of the future become art-tarded and cant hold 2 pistols/SMG? I give you this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQyUk1gVVGsIt CAN be done... unless like said before, future humans become idiots that cant hold 2 things and squeeze a trigger.. BUT as you can also see, it is VERY inaccurate. And that is all you would have to do for balancing, make it have horrible ride up and a large spray pattern.. Close range will destroy people, any bit of distance makes it worthless.
Untill I see actual footage of military personal training in dual wielding pistols, I call bullshit on any video you put up. Try again kid. |
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SCAT mania
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.05 11:05:00 -
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lol i make ribbons of heavys already with one smg give me 2 and it would be too easy. it would become OP in less then a week and then the Nerf Hammer would be pulled out and it would become useless... why waste time on this when there is so much more guddies to come |
Xemos 'Toolz' Kroe
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.05 11:08:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Xemos 'Toolz' Kroe wrote:I like this option.. And whoever says dual wielding pistols, you are all ********... that is something done in life now, So you are saying people of the future become art-tarded and cant hold 2 pistols/SMG? I give you this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQyUk1gVVGsIt CAN be done... unless like said before, future humans become idiots that cant hold 2 things and squeeze a trigger.. BUT as you can also see, it is VERY inaccurate. And that is all you would have to do for balancing, make it have horrible ride up and a large spray pattern.. Close range will destroy people, any bit of distance makes it worthless. Untill I see actual footage of military personal training in dual wielding pistols, I call bullshit on any video you put up. Try again kid.
Love the kid comment, I'm 26 and I've been in the U.S. Army for a little over 6 years now. E-5 SGT. Now that we got that out of the way. The ONLY reason we do not train in them is for the reasons I said above. But if you think no military personnel would attempt to use 2 M9s in a desperate situation when there is no 5.56 ammo left and surrounded... wel ur jes dermb :D . Anywho... We are MERCs!!!
And here you go since you had to make a smart comment..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwPe9x8S07w
And that MP Specialist is actually pprrrreeeeetty damn good with dual M9s, a hell of a lot better than I can with em, Weak left handed fire-er... |
Sgt Kirk
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.05 13:16:00 -
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Look at the recoil you already have with the scrambler pistol. In no way would it be rational to hold out at arms length to weapons with extreme recoil. That's ridiculous, and tacky... let alone it doesn't make sense. |
Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama Endless Renaissance
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Posted - 2013.02.05 13:21:00 -
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DropKickSuicide wrote:Were super soldiers in the future and we cant hold 2 weapons at the same time?
How did a disposable clone body with mind transfer implants turn into a super soldier?
I mean, in New Eden, they make clones from dead bodies....
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Cloning
We're freakin' zombies, dude, not Imperial Space Marines.
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Lexcen Trickster
Doomheim
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Posted - 2013.02.05 13:27:00 -
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Full duel wielding is a bad idea
i 'duel' wield advanced scrambler pistols atm, i unload 1 clip and switch to the backup to unload some more. im using a scout suit and i can easily deal with HMG heavys like this.. so letting me use 2 at 1 time.. bad idea |
Galrick M'kron
NECROMONGER'S
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Posted - 2013.02.05 13:42:00 -
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It sounds interesting, but we need restrictions: GÇó It would be limited to sidearms (and melee weapons, so you'd be able to mix/match any two sidearms/melee weapons you want, but they'd both take up slots, even if they were the same weapon. For supply purposes, your supplies of the same weapon would be equally divided between the two slots). GÇó There would be a significant accuracy penalty (which you'd have to skill into dual-wielding to reduce). GÇó You wouldn't be able to aim.
I don't know if it would fit the tone, but if implemented with the above limitations, it could be a nice combat style, not to mention badass-looking (if the animations are done right). |
Rekon Syport
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
6
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Posted - 2013.02.05 13:53:00 -
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I was gunna say the same thing. As my fellow military trained players I think would agree, this idea is just about as dumb as it gets. I don't mind you adding it, but you shouldn't be able to hit jack and reload for crap therefore no one would use it. Knives maybe. . . and I'm not arguing "fun Factor."
I like to kind of think our Clones a bit smarter in the future as well to attempt this idea, I mean they are a "military styled personnel." Two hands squared up on the SINGLE firearm for maximum (and still crappy) efficiency at close range. We train this way for a reason, and let's not address the issues throughout this video posted. . . responding the the thought of the this thread topic makes me the lesser intelligent person in this debate already anyway.
**Damn you proved me wrong in my fellow miliary trained players, but do you train in the m9? better yet a scrambler pistol?** Imma quit While Im behind. . . . . . |
DeathStalker Synchro
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.05 14:34:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:DeathStalker Synchro wrote:While dual wielding pistols may seem like a great idea it would destroy the look of Dust. Ok, maybe destroy is too strong of a word. But it just doesn't fit. Dual wielding is for games like Halo, Call of Duty, and Borderlands. Those games can aren't taken 100% seriously. And I don't mean that they're jokes in gaming. It's just that a guy running around in Dust with two scrambler pistols looks a bit out of place. But that's just my opinion. We are mercenaries. I don't care if it is suboptimal, having a brand or other signature is as important as you ability to aim. If bonny was known for pot shooting with both pistols (two targets at once) he would be even more legend. That kind of flavor is way more important than "tacti-kool realizm" because it is FUN.
Realism? Ok, I'll just agree to disagree. Though, even if they considered it and put this into game without any issues. Can you imagine how horrible the range would be. Look at the SMG. It's useable in the right hands or with the right skills but dual-wielding would be pointless on such large maps and open spaces. Everyone using it will cry and whine for more range, less vertical recoil, and whatever they can think up as an issue. Then, there's reloading the time to switch to both weapons. In the end results, you probably wouldn't want it. And would regret the skill points you spent.
After all, the concept of dual-wielding is just aesthetic. Using two weapons at the same time isn't too effective. It's not like you can aim at two people at once. |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
67
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Posted - 2013.02.05 16:58:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:DropKickSuicide wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:DropKickSuicide wrote:Were super soldiers in the future and we cant hold 2 weapons at the same time? There's no dual wield because this is not halo. Didnt know Halo had dual wield. Of course it does, dual wield smg's, smg and needler, etc
Just to clarify, Halo does no longer let you dual wield. I believe H3 was the last one to let you do that. Reach and H4 definitely do not support dual wielding.
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Andius Fidelitas
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.05 17:25:00 -
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DeathStalker Synchro wrote:While dual wielding pistols may seem like a great idea it would destroy the look of Dust. Ok, maybe destroy is too strong of a word. But it just doesn't fit. Dual wielding is for games like Halo, Call of Duty, and Borderlands. Those games can aren't taken 100% seriously. And I don't mean that they're jokes in gaming. It's just that a guy running around in Dust with two scrambler pistols looks a bit out of place. But that's just my opinion.
Ah+¬m....
http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/2949i79E9EF25589260DE/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1
It's official, Dust 514's image is kaput! And by CCP's very own art department. Oy vey. |
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