Don't worry, this is not a complaining, or whining, or QQ-ing thing, and for sure it's not a compliment. It's just an observation and some info.

The Imperfects is one of the best corps out there. That is a known fact. However, there are certain reasons why. Imperfects have people specialized into every role. They know their strengths and weaknesses. And each of their players is above average (except for some, mentioning them would be mean).

This creates the Imperfect effect. It's been called by other names in others games, like MAG, or Killzone, or Battlefield, or EvE, and Halo as well.

Basically, the Imperfects affect the balance of the game as they are. A compact, compressed, collection of some of the best players in the game. Usually when this happens, the major corp/clan is hated, and admired, and more and more "noobs" start piling in, hoping to cash in on the fame. Individually, their best players have skill, even if they don't work as a team, they can still hold up. Personally, I think this is a negative thing, you want competition, yet you have the competition join you. If the "talent" was spread around, more competitive games could be played, better pub matches and overall corps. But don't worry, the players are learning. Quickly, other corps will rise.

And then, sooner or later, it will all fall apart.

And then, sooner or later, it will all fall apart.

you want competition, yet you have the competition join you

Don't worry, this is not a complaining, or whining, or QQ-ing thing, and for sure it's not a compliment. It's just an observation and some info.

The Imperfects is one of the best corps out there. That is a known fact. However, there are certain reasons why. Imperfects have people specialized into every role. They know their strengths and weaknesses. And each of their players is above average (except for some, mentioning them would be mean).

This creates the Imperfect effect. It's been called by other names in others games, like MAG, or Killzone, or Battlefield, or EvE, and Halo as well.

Basically, the Imperfects affect the balance of the game as they are. A compact, compressed, collection of some of the best players in the game. Usually when this happens, the major corp/clan is hated, and admired, and more and more "noobs" start piling in, hoping to cash in on the fame. Individually, their best players have skill, even if they don't work as a team, they can still hold up. Personally, I think this is a negative thing, you want competition, yet you have the competition join you. If the "talent" was spread around, more competitive games could be played, better pub matches and overall corps. But don't worry, the players are learning. Quickly, other corps will rise.

And then, sooner or later, it will all fall apart.

That's what they said would happen after the tournament.

I've been hoping to run into a few again in a pub match (on the same team of course) so I can follow them around and learn a bit. No such luck, though. :(

Just buy Zitro's book he's finally released an e-reader version.

I saw an imperfect play solo on a server today.

He was running around advanced armour and kit, then when he died twice he seemingly decided dieing was too expensive and started sniping.

To give him his due he was an excellent sniper, I think he finished at the top of his team 24/2 I think. That being said his side did lose. I can't help but feel he might have actually won the battle if he himself had gotten stuck in and not been so worried about his K/D ratio.

Wishful thinking? Why does it have to fall apart. Why can't it keep expanding forever and ever. Sure some want competition but hey complete and utter control and dominance does have a nice ring to it too.

Edit-- Not everyone good is asked to join and ALL come of their own choosing. If those players felt they could do well in their previous corps and had a purpose and a vision maybe they wouldn't leave in the first place as some have not already. Just saying perhaps its best to build your own brand than try to somehow take pot shots at ours

They're like the Borg, assimilating the best until they cannot be beat.

They're called the Imperfects because they have not yet achieved perfection, which is their ultimate goal.

Like the Borg, once they assimilate all the best, they'll really have nothing left to do.

It all makes sense now.

icy your a good dude so i am going to let you down softly here. Imperfects are lazy in pubs and hardly play as a team. Its rare that ccp matches us with anyone decent on the other team. In the end we basically are just farming redscrubbies like other good teams do.

A lot of us want to play skirmish more but trying to carry 12 scrubberries isn't worth it. So we end up in ambush farming, again.

This is makes us worse. Not to mention we haven't actually had a real practice since 2 weeks before the finals of the tourny. Nor have we done an actual Imperfect vs Imperfect scrim.

So no, we aren't going to break up we get along just fine (when we actually play dust). Lots of players hate having to grind everyday and simply aren't playing. I have hope for the weekly cap system so we can get back to be a functioning corp.

So thats the real imperfect effect, or the truth if you would.


Note: lots of imps are playing crysis 3 instead of dust (but its so bad that we look forward to working for ccp for 90 minutes a day to get sp)

IMPERFECTS when broken down spells I M PERFECTS.... coincidence?

IMPERFECTS when broken down spells I M PERFECTS.... coincidence?

This is probably the biggest misconception about us. It's not like we hold a gun to everyone's head (at least outside the game) and force them to join us. People are free to turn down an offer, as some have already. We only invite people who are friends or who we've enjoyed playing with in the past, though. If you're good but don't get along with us, you won't have to worry about getting asked.

Didn't PFBhz give you a hard time?

Lol wow its getting deep in here.I think I might need some waders.Is that why the Imps are trying to recruit the Team Players.They never played with you guys ever....Why you picked up Doug and Young Cuz.....

Ps.Im not mad....... Im just calling you out on your Bull sh*t

Lol wow its getting deep in here.I think I might need some waders.Is that why the Imps are trying to recruit the Team Players.They never played with you guys ever....Why you picked up Doug and Young Cuz.....

Ps.Im not mad....... Im just calling you out on your Bull sh*t

I M PS WARM.

Doug was never Teamplayers so might want to get that one right.

I never said Doug was a Team Player.We are talking about The IMps acquiring all good players.

Might want to work on your reading comprehension...

Oh and I got a question for ya...Whats it like playing for the IMps 2nd string?I admit I am impressed that they could convince people to join a "your not as good as US" B-team....
Lol can You say fanboi?

It's natural for good players to want to play with good players. No one wants to hold up dead weight.

I never said Doug was a Team Player.We are talking about The IMps acquiring all good players.

Might want to work on your reading comprehension...

Oh and I got a question for ya...Whats it like playing for the IMps 2nd string?I admit I am impressed that they could convince people to join a "your not as good as US" B-team....
Lol can You say fanboi?

Reeks of Border line Homosexuality

PFBHz is the best corp in ROFL, does that mean the other corps in ROFL are "2nd string"? I dont think so, just other corps in the alliance that perform different functions.

P.S. you're a bad troll, get some unique material.

Ok very well.Hows this:

Hello kids Im mister Zitro and Im going to write a book on how I got to be a complete tool.

You see early on in the closed beta we had spawn points that were literally a 10 foot area.I would sit up in the mountains or on top of buildings shooting my Large missle turret at the spawns in my Sigarus which at the time had over 8k shp.Thats why I always talk about my 100 kill game like it was a massive achievement.I then put all my Sp into Proto suits and stacked damage mods.Later after I got owned by a scout repeatedly in a ambush game that was called Communication at the time by a full auto mod controller Codewish tac Douvolle. I decided I would do the same thing and act like it was my idea.I then complained repeatedly in the forums about the iron sights and muzzle rise.I told CCP that there game was dumb and called everyone scrubs.
When I joined beta max I stole all there good specialized players.To win the tournament.After we got the officer dropsuits 4 high and 4 low it was simply a matter of stacking damage mods.I used simple parlor tricks exploited the imbalance of the BETA and now my newest recent endevor is to complain about armor tanks and QQ like a baby because I was so stupid that I thought they might be good.I was going to pown open beta noobs before they figure out that 4 Av nades would kill me and my tank and that Miltia forges were now on the market>you see because I am the smartest guy in the game.Iwould do that until I got enough sp to go Proto and do the cycle all over again.I also never run solo because I would get my ass kicked so I always have to squad with either Regnum or Proto man and How as back up.Point is I never run solo.


Thats the first chapter

Oh he made you mad as heII

the fifth chapter is about his passion for naked women covered in pizza.

dont ask me why.

I saw an imperfect play solo on a server today.

He was running around advanced armour and kit, then when he died twice he seemingly decided dieing was too expensive and started sniping.

To give him his due he was an excellent sniper, I think he finished at the top of his team 24/2 I think. That being said his side did lose. I can't help but feel he might have actually won the battle if he himself had gotten stuck in and not been so worried about his K/D ratio.

Not hardly...I dont tank.Anytime he went up against anybody else in a tank and got owned he sent hate mail.His current tanking ability is there for everyone to see.Death owned him,Laurchasauras owned him,Got Jewed and Aldin...thats why he got Spero/Aldin to flank them he couldnt handle them on his own.

He sucks for real he has no gun game hence why he complains about the weapon flattening...he passived while he was tanking early in builds got his kill count/kdr way up used his sp to go proto and lvl his AR and thats all he did..I have no respect for the guy.You can see how well hes tanking now right?Guy is a tool....and I dont know why in the hell you guys follow him.

MMMM Pizza, New York of course none of that weak Chicago nonsense and definitely none of that weirdo Cali concoctions like shrimp tempura with avacado or whatever those hippies over there like to put on it.

I honestly haven't seen anyone obsess over him this much, you even wrote a biography. Good job and I'm sure he would appreciate the work you put into every detail.

nvm your clearly not mad, just obsessive.

Why any follows that d-bag Mrs. zitro is beyond me. she has no wit on the forums and crys like a little girl at everything.
Other than him they seem like decent guys, so I assume they just ignore him too.
She really is a traimwreck to read on the forums, scrub this homo that. She tries way too hard to be cool and just comes off worse than the Quick gloves, at least he can blame the booze.

lol 3/5 with a mass driver makes you a beast huh? lol I stand corrected

Btw you look cute in you G-IMP cheerleader outfit....pom-poms and pig tails.Just the way Zitro like it.

That's what they said would happen after the tournament.

Stalker alert?

The effect never happened until after the tournament because nobody ever heard of you until then. Before the tournament, STB was the big one. Then ofc, the tournament drew away their army of noobs wanting to join.

I agree they won't last, but it won't be to this cycle. I've said it time and time again, but improved integration with eve will much more likely be the death of them. They've stated many times in the past they don't plan on choosing a side, but instead using the tournament as advertising and being pure mercenaries.
Mercenaries are tools. Tools don't keep a reputation as the big bad gamer clan, because it's the grand armies of the rich and influential you hear of. Mercenaries, no matter how good they are, are overlooked in the huge armies.
Then again, the weak and not-so-influential are the ones who are more likely to need to hire mercenaries.

Lots of speculation on how dust will work it seems, but yeah you can finally sleep at night knowing we won't last, right?

Says the guy who is so obsessed with the Gimps that he couldnt make the cut so they put him on the B-team and excepts that just so he can be close to Zitro lol wtf evr kid. kick rocks and get your aim up. Get on my level.Yer dismissed

And the tears Zitro produces - I have to admit - are some pretty fine quality.

Said the dingleberry who hides behind alts. It's all good tho im done with you. Hate all you want not my fault you didn't get your invite into the "B" team. Not my fault you too blind to see what's being developed before your eyes, not my fault your reptilian brain lacks the frontal cortex gyri required for executive planning functions to see the Beast that grows in front of you daily.





I'm done with this guy--Vinny Gambini.

---

When we up in da Barge, All Eyez on us, all eyez on usGǪGǪ You are now now rockin with I M Perfects and IMPSwarm b itch!!

Says the guy who is so obsessed with the Gimps that he couldnt make the cut so they put him on the B-team and excepts that just so he can be close to Zitro lol wtf evr kid. kick rocks and get your aim up. Get on my level.Yer dismissed

Gunner.......


You just dont like to admit it that your on the B team. Heck i got tired of shooting you and just melee you instead.....makes it slightly more challenging.

Put-PROTOMAN-IN GAME greatest DUST player ever.

Lol I'm gone for a day and the forums miss me that much? Tears make the world go round and the world is spinning

all i read was "my corp sucks why can't we be as good as Imperfects" "they have all the good players and i didn't get accepted"

QFT.

QFT.

How come Impswarm keeps backing out whenever we're in the same match? It's happened 3 times already.

Don't want to be mean, but hey, maybe one day you can join the "big boys" crew.

Hey, I'm happy to set up a corp battle against ImpSwarm any time. Just join the Universal Allies public chat, and ask for one. But make sure the "big boys" don't have to back you up in alts.

It's not about you, it's about Imperfects as a whole. This same stuff has been done before in every game, don't know why you feel special.

Hey, I'm happy to set up a corp battle against ImpSwarm any time. Just join the Universal Allies public chat, and ask for one. But make sure the "big boys" don't have to back you up in alts.

I'm special picked out of imperfects to hate on and that makes me the best! The hate happens in every game true but it never happens to you :) now do you feel special?

who tells you, you're special? Must be your mum.

How tells you, you're special? Must be your mum.

Yes I'm a mommy's boy, that's why I love boobies! It must suck dik being a daddy's boy

I only suck your dad's ****.

Icy you belong in PvE (little league) cause in PvP (major league) you are gum on my shoe

I only suck your dad's ****.

I only suck your dad's ****.

I'm special picked out of imperfects to hate on and that makes me the best! The hate happens in every game true but it never happens to you :) now do you feel special?

At least you have a sugar daddy

PvP against you feels like pve. Also, if I'm gum on your shoe, does that make Impswarm old men who lick you between your toes?

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQB3JQXcjA7okpZJ48fa49Nw7EpdiqsQlm3mqN37LYMsNPFkFYzSw

PFBHz is the best corp in ROFL, does that mean the other corps in ROFL are "2nd string"? I dont think so, just other corps in the alliance that perform different functions.

Now I see it. Zitro finally gets attention in a game, and it's gotten to his head. See buddy, that's why they put you in your "special place" in that special bus.

Now I see it. Zitro finally gets attention in a game, and it's gotten to his head. See buddy, that's why they put you in your "special place" in that special bus.

I get attention, you are just the smelly kid on the bus no one cares about

He wants his crop's reputation to defined on how they do in game, and not how his members act on the forums.

The he goes and acts like a dumbass on the forums.

PvP against you feels like pve. Also, if I'm gum on your shoe, does that make Impswarm old men who lick you between your toes?

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQB3JQXcjA7okpZJ48fa49Nw7EpdiqsQlm3mqN37LYMsNPFkFYzSw

I bet your dad wished you were his daughter instead.

I beg your dad wished he wore a condom

I beg your dad wished he wore a condom

Zitro, your retardation is showing again.

Nope it shows I'm on my phone and auto spell is trolling better than you fags

Sure bro, sure...

There should be a forum rule about not letting trash players talk to their betters

forums wouldn't be fun anymore

Farming noobs in this game is soo hard!

BTW this thread is missing a Wicked Glory rant.

Fingers get so sore after spamming L1 and R1

Ok very well.Hows this:

Hello kids Im mister Zitro and Im going to write a book on how I got to be a complete tool.

You see early on in the closed beta we had spawn points that were literally a 10 foot area.I would sit up in the mountains or on top of buildings shooting my Large missle turret at the spawns in my Sigarus which at the time had over 8k shp.Thats why I always talk about my 100 kill game like it was a massive achievement.I then put all my Sp into Proto suits and stacked damage mods.Later after I got owned by a scout repeatedly in a ambush game that was called Communication at the time by a full auto mod controller Codewish tac Douvolle. I decided I would do the same thing and act like it was my idea.I then complained repeatedly in the forums about the iron sights and muzzle rise.I told CCP that there game was dumb and called everyone scrubs.
When I joined beta max I stole all there good specialized players.To win the tournament.After we got the officer dropsuits 4 high and 4 low it was simply a matter of stacking damage mods.I used simple parlor tricks exploited the imbalance of the BETA and now my newest recent endevor is to complain about armor tanks and QQ like a baby because I was so stupid that I thought they might be good.I was going to pown open beta noobs before they figure out that 4 Av nades would kill me and my tank and that Miltia forges were now on the market>you see because I am the smartest guy in the game.Iwould do that until I got enough sp to go Proto and do the cycle all over again.I also never run solo because I would get my ass kicked so I always have to squad with either Regnum or Proto man and How as back up.Point is I never run solo.


Thats the first chapter

Fingers get so sore after spamming L1 and R1

Hardest on my liver.

Farming = boring = drinking.

What about that cat?

What about that cat?

Not gunna lie, this was entertaining and I would gladly pay top dollar for the full book, please post chapter 2, I'm waiting impatiently.

Zitro you're the one who sucked Global Conflicts d*** to join you.

And you're tank is sh*t.

Nope we where dating before hand, and I'm not a ****

Nope we where dating before hand, and I'm not a ****

I dunno, got some incestuous s**** with your brother going on.

I dunno, anyone can make you feel "special". Cheap date tbh.

Troll meter running low?

I dunno, anyone can make you feel "special". Cheap date tbh.

Gotta keep it pg-13. Soon as he reaches puberty I'll bring out the big guns.

You just accused him of sucking ****, it's actually right there in the quote.

Everyone like talking about the imperfects.

the imperfects could charge isk for squading up with losers, I mean pubs. Want to pad win loss ratio, just feel like winning, or want to hang out with someone who is cool. You could pay one and that is usually more than enough to tip the balance in any fight.

the one time i can recall a imperfect losing when I was on a team that had another imperfect.

I only take reach around's as payments. If you can offer me that I'll squad with you.

I only take reach around's as payments. If you can offer me that I'll squad with you.

My character is always in the spacesuit, I don't even know what yours looks like without the suit, or you know mine.

Whatever I am for for getting padded victory's, so sure.

Until CCP adds public restrooms we will do it in the 1min or so we are in the merc lobby before the battle so everyone can see.

*cough *cough (spills coffee)

What time are you on tonight

...Until CCP adds public restrooms...

You mean this isn't the Public Restroom? ....Oops

Wishful thinking? Why does it have to fall apart. Why can't it keep expanding forever and ever. Sure some want competition but hey complete and utter control and dominance does have a nice ring to it too.

Edit-- Not everyone good is asked to join and ALL come of their own choosing. If those players felt they could do well in their previous corps and had a purpose and a vision maybe they wouldn't leave in the first place as some have not already. Just saying perhaps its best to build your own brand than try to somehow take pot shots at ours

I see our plan to use Icy Tiger to occupy all of IMPERFECTS time posting on the forums is working as intended. Didn't realize all of the IMP lovers/haters would fall for the trap as well, any more and it'll be like a ghost town in pub matches >_>

I see our plan to use Icy Tiger to occupy all of IMPERFECTS time posting on the forums is working as intended. Didn't realize all of the IMP lovers/haters would fall for the trap as well, any more and it'll be like a ghost town in pub matches >_>

I see our plan to use Icy Tiger to occupy all of Imperfects time posting on the forums is working as intended. Didn't realize all of the IMP lovers/haters would fall for the trap as well, any more and it'll be like a ghost town in pub matches >_>

10/10

I see our plan to use Icy Tiger to occupy all of Imperfects time posting on the forums is working as intended. Didn't realize all of the IMP lovers/haters would fall for the trap as well, any more and it'll be like a ghost town in pub matches >_>

The effect never happened until after the tournament because nobody ever heard of you until then. Before the tournament, STB was the big one. Then ofc, the tournament drew away their army of noobs wanting to join.

I agree they won't last, but it won't be to this cycle. I've said it time and time again, but improved integration with eve will much more likely be the death of them. They've stated many times in the past they don't plan on choosing a side, but instead using the tournament as advertising and being pure mercenaries.
Mercenaries are tools. Tools don't keep a reputation as the big bad gamer clan, because it's the grand armies of the rich and influential you hear of. Mercenaries, no matter how good they are, are overlooked in the huge armies.
Then again, the weak and not-so-influential are the ones who are more likely to need to hire mercenaries.

LOL the irony of this XD

What? That your corp's main argument was to call everyone a nonfactor, and that there's a VERY good chance you'll be nonfactors?

How come Impswarm keeps backing out whenever we're in the same match? It's happened 3 times already.

Why do imperfects hate threads spew on for 10 pages.

You can only cover the same thing so many times,

Give me something creative to troll.

We prefer a challenge

What? That your corp's main argument was to call everyone a nonfactor, and that there's a VERY good chance you'll be nonfactors?

.

Once you learn to use the quote function, we can talk. Also, I've never heard of you. There's a reason you're in Impswarm, and don't you forget it.

If you "prefer a challenge", come out and face us.

Once you learn to use the quote function, we can talk. Also, I've never heard of you. There's a reason you're in Impswarm, and don't you forget it.

If you "prefer a challenge", come out and face us.

Do you believe that if you say it enough it will come true?

None of you have given even an attempt at an argument that I'm wrong.

None of you have given even an attempt at an argument that I'm wrong.

Your argument is full of assumptions why should anyone take it seriously?

btw the reason we weren't well known before the tournament is because we happened to be formed just before the tournament.

Your argument is full of assumptions why should anyone take it seriously?

btw the reason we weren't well known before the tournament is because we happened to be formed just before the tournament. With corp battles alone fame came pretty quickly.

There were over 5 quotes so it woudnt let me post it. The reason im in IMPSwarm is so im not against the imperfects ;). LOL you insulting me being in IMPSwarm is funny xD. Im sorry what corp are you in? LOL i thought that was a started corp. Just wait one day you'll will see what were capable of. Until then we will continue to train and prepare to swarm.

This thread finna go 9 pages

I was hoping it would be labelled as a "classic ".

LOL, I would kick this guy out right now. Guy joins Imps so he doesn't have to face them, suck it up and get good. You are the exact definition of a scrub.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scrub

Still afraid of a corp battle I see. Don't worry, I'll ask Taste to set something up. Now go stat pad in pubs against randoms.


(I'm disgusted to say that I'm typing like one of "those guys")

Why aren't you in Imperfects then? Surely a spot must be available considering Paran Tadec is no longer one of them.

I dont have the time to be that competitive as those in imperfects. Im also not in because they have all they need. I can do more for them in IMPSwarm then i could do for them in imperfects. I like what IMPSwarm will be doing so i will stay.
Any more questions?

When can we corp battle?

I'll see what I can do

Why aren't you in Imperfects then? Surely a spot must be available considering Paran Tadec is no longer one of them.

puppet corp.

When can we corp battle?

]You guys are just cannon fodder for them. Not really an alliance.

]You guys are just cannon fodder for them. Not really an alliance.

That's what we felt about Betamax when we left.

I know i kinda felt bad after i typed it.

Never seen you or heard of you. Also, Betamax was all I needed to see of them.

Put-PROTOMAN-IN GAME greatest DUST player ever.

ROTFLMFAO. Crying even. A lot of players can whoop your lame ass to kingdom come. LMFAO. Geez proto and greatest dust playa eva. LMFAO.

Well its not happening enough he has a kd over 10

A lot of the 'elite' corporations in Eve or Dust look for high K/D ratios, and if you somehow don't look good wit hem, you're worthless, despite circumstances behind it.

Just look at Eve online and the current stagnancy of nullsec. Most of those alliances are too afraid of losing their ratios to get into good fights.



Yes, and if you keep it together, you get the current snorefest that is eve nullsec ATM.

LOL i think a death every ten kills is good xD.

LOL, I would kick this guy out right now. Guy joins Imps so he doesn't have to face them, suck it up and get good. You are the exact definition of a scrub.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scrub

Still afraid of a corp battle I see. Don't worry, I'll ask Taste to set something up. Now go stat pad in pubs against randoms.


(I'm disgusted to say that I'm typing like one of "those guys")

oh i'm sorry, i didn't know i needed to meet you before i posted?

BTW been here since April of 2012.

lol you brought up betamax

you'll pull anything outta your asshat huh? horrible magician, we're not going to disappear so you should just get used to getting beat by us

To be honest.

My eve main is in corp in eve considered to be some of the best. In fact my main is a top rated toon on battle clinic and I get 200 plus kills a month and rarely lose a ship.

We take fights we really should never win, because they are good fights.

0.0 has never and will never be the peak of pvp, they're not concerned about k/d ratios they are just concerned about winning, often not cos ships cost money, but because losing in Eve means they lose something meamingful... income mainly.

If you poke an alliance in null sec over a tech or Neo moon, they will come to defend it. If you just roam up to 0.0 and offer no long term threat, they will not bother with you as you can not hurt their cash flows.

You can hardly say that PL are scared of a fight, yes they "blob" like the best of them, but numbers in eve count more than tactics.

So - I hear there's a new Imperfect Effect. If you support heavies on forums you get banned.

Great rule ^_^

HowDidThatTaste, run for your life! :O

So - I hear there's a new Imperfect Effect. If you support heavies on forums you get banned.

Great rule ^_^

HowDidThatTaste, run for your life! :O

You should have learned from me how to instigate things on this here forums Sota. You are bad at it.

If I wanted too really push this I'd make a thread, but I'll somewhat respect the imperfects silence on the matter and just pick threads to harass you guys in ;)

Love how talkative you guys are until that spot light dims. :)

I am sad we dont have 6 threads on the front page about us. Not much to do when you hit your sp cap and everyone logs off dust