DUST Search - ( REQUEST ) ability to lay down

Paran Tadec wrote:

dem shotta wrote:

Paran Tadec wrote:

No, atleast not until the sniper rifles are fixed.

all you have to do is run in zigzags and snipers cant hit you
snipers are no big threat and will not be made more powerful by adding the ability to LAY down.
think about it if you are assault like me and a heavy comes your way you take out his shield but he stills has is armor by this time you have to reload and the heavy has began to shot at you the only thing you can do is run if you wanna leave BUT what if right after reloading you lay down now the heavy has to aim down to shot you IF your weap can do enough damage you kill him befor he kills you THANKS TO LAYING DOWN.
What if you get hit by a sniper your shield is now gone and maybe some of your health YOU CAN LAY DOWN the snip will have to move his aim back on you by this time you have gotten up and ran away

Snipers are already had to hit due to hit detection issues, as well as being the easiest weapon to use ie no drop or travel time. LOL

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dem shotta MORE THAN IMMORTAL 1	Posted - 2013.01.31 08:52:00 - [1] - Quote we all know you can crouch down and when you do your aiming is slowed by alot this i think they should change but moveing to my point I think we should be able to Lay all the way down
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 191	Posted - 2013.01.31 08:55:00 - [2] - Quote No.
dem shotta MORE THAN IMMORTAL 1	Posted - 2013.01.31 09:04:00 - [3] - Quote Martin0 Brancaleone wrote: No. why not im not a sniper but im sure they would like to be able to lay down in a open battle field and snip without being easily seen and im sure in alot of ways being able to lay down could benefit combat in the game
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2013.01.31 09:14:00 - [4] - Quote No, atleast not until the sniper rifles are fixed.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2013.01.31 09:29:00 - [5] - Quote There are two things that the ability to go prone might result in. So far, no game has avoided both of these. You have to choose which one you want to introduce to the game: 1. Exploits ("dolphin diving" comes to mind), or 2. Slowing the pace of the game. With DUST 514 already being a fairly slow-paced shooter, slowing it down further would be a bad thing. And I can't think of anyone worth talking about who would be happy with the addition of game-breaking hitbox exploits, so neither possible approach to prone seems appropriate. Unless you have a coherent plan for how to implement a prone option into DUST, and it avoids both of these problems, I'm sticking with my usual "terrible idea" vote. Cloaking devices are likely to be coming soon, and that will benefit snipers more than a prone option would anyway.
dem shotta MORE THAN IMMORTAL 1	Posted - 2013.01.31 09:33:00 - [6] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: No, atleast not until the sniper rifles are fixed. all you have to do is run in zigzags and snipers cant hit you snipers are no big threat and will not be made more powerful by adding the ability to LAY down. think about it if you are assault like me and a heavy comes your way you take out his shield but he stills has is armor by this time you have to reload and the heavy has began to shot at you the only thing you can do is run if you wanna leave BUT what if right after reloading you lay down now the heavy has to aim down to shot you IF your weap can do enough damage you kill him befor he kills you THANKS TO LAYING DOWN. What if you get hit by a sniper your shield is now gone and maybe some of your health YOU CAN LAY DOWN the snip will have to move his aim back on you by this time you have gotten up and ran away
dem shotta MORE THAN IMMORTAL 1	Posted - 2013.01.31 09:45:00 - [7] - Quote i dont know what dolphin diving is please explain I dont think adding the ability to LAY DOWN will slow game play at all call of duty is a very fast pace game and you can lay down and whats wrong with prone it help improve the ability to LAY DOWN . i dont think snipers being invisible will be unfair. thats a stupid idea people already think snipers are OVER POWERED with there ranged attacks
CarloArmato2991 RED COLONIAL MARINES Covert Intervention 20	Posted - 2013.01.31 09:57:00 - [8] - Quote In lasts CoD, for example in BO2, iyou perform a "dolphin diving" when you jump and going prone while mid-air. Another reason I would not allow players to go prone is the Drop Shot: you go prone to reduce the area of your body that can be hit while shooting back to the enemy. Regardless how it could be useful in a 1on1, that would make Dust 514 a bad and slower copy of CoD.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2013.01.31 09:58:00 - [9] - Quote I'm a Shotgun Scout who's smart enough to deal with Snipers. My girlfriend's a Sniper, and watching her play (quite well) has given me an appreciation for them. Prone means laying down, it's not something that "helps" - they're the same thing. Dophin Diving is an exploit when you have fast-paced gameplay with a prone option. Basically, you lay down while in mid-air, and it breaks the game's hitbox system, and can make you near-invulnerable because of your rapidly-changing body position, and also frequently makes players immune to headshots. Snipers aren't overpowered, but the ability to go prone would make them more powerful. If you think they're already too powerful, why would you want them to be even better?
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2013.01.31 10:19:00 - [10] - Quote dem shotta wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: No, atleast not until the sniper rifles are fixed. all you have to do is run in zigzags and snipers cant hit you snipers are no big threat and will not be made more powerful by adding the ability to LAY down. think about it if you are assault like me and a heavy comes your way you take out his shield but he stills has is armor by this time you have to reload and the heavy has began to shot at you the only thing you can do is run if you wanna leave BUT what if right after reloading you lay down now the heavy has to aim down to shot you IF your weap can do enough damage you kill him befor he kills you THANKS TO LAYING DOWN. What if you get hit by a sniper your shield is now gone and maybe some of your health YOU CAN LAY DOWN the snip will have to move his aim back on you by this time you have gotten up and ran away Snipers are already had to hit due to hit detection issues, as well as being the easiest weapon to use ie no drop or travel time. LOL

dem shotta MORE THAN IMMORTAL 1	Posted - 2013.01.31 10:24:00 - [11] - Quote 1- i think snipers are trash i have no problem with killing them my k/d would stay positive if there were 16 snipers on the other team 2- i didnt say add the diving 3-laying down would make every player better but the heavys 4-how would it slow the game no one told me yet ???????????????????
Val'herik Dorn CrimeWave Syndicate 264	Posted - 2013.01.31 14:25:00 - [12] - Quote No bad idea. Drop shotting (which im pretty sure is why you want this) should stay in the arena of cod. Have you seen the giant suitsbwe wear. They don't lend themselves to mobility except the scout suit. And if they do for som horrible reason add this at least my MD will still be effective.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2013.01.31 14:35:00 - [13] - Quote dem shotta wrote: 1- i think snipers are trash i have no problem with killing them my k/d would stay positive if there were 16 snipers on the other team 2- i didnt say add the diving 3-laying down would make every player better but the heavys 4-how would it slow the game no one told me yet ??????????????????? There are two approaches that game developers have found to implementing a prone function. One results in Drop Shots being a viable tactic, and can result in dolphin diving depending on the specifics of how it's done. The other slows the game down. So, as I said, you have those two options, or you can explain a new set of mechanics which allow us to avoid both of the problems which would negatively impact the game. Until you define EXACTLY how your suggestion works, and can convince me that it WOULDN'T cause problems, I'm going to keep telling you that nobody has made it work properly yet. Every game with a prone function has to work around one of those two possibilities. Some slow-paced tactical shooters can safely allow players to go prone because they're built around the prone mechanic. DUST isn't, so without a MASSIVE redesign of almost everything about the gameplay, it's not going to work.
dem shotta MORE THAN IMMORTAL 1	Posted - 2013.02.01 02:08:00 - [14] - Quote ok i hear you all it was just something i wanted topic closed
Cpt Murd0ck Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 95	Posted - 2013.02.01 02:20:00 - [15] - Quote just....no
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 385	Posted - 2013.02.01 03:06:00 - [16] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: dem shotta wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: No, atleast not until the sniper rifles are fixed. all you have to do is run in zigzags and snipers cant hit you snipers are no big threat and will not be made more powerful by adding the ability to LAY down. think about it if you are assault like me and a heavy comes your way you take out his shield but he stills has is armor by this time you have to reload and the heavy has began to shot at you the only thing you can do is run if you wanna leave BUT what if right after reloading you lay down now the heavy has to aim down to shot you IF your weap can do enough damage you kill him befor he kills you THANKS TO LAYING DOWN. What if you get hit by a sniper your shield is now gone and maybe some of your health YOU CAN LAY DOWN the snip will have to move his aim back on you by this time you have gotten up and ran away Snipers are already had to hit due to hit detection issues, as well as being the easiest weapon to use ie no drop or travel time. LOL its those very reasons that mean i can't snipe on this game, battlefield sniping is now ingrained in me
Imp Smash On The Brink 51	Posted - 2013.02.01 03:49:00 - [17] - Quote I'm for it. Just don't Allow prone in air. A short delay between prone and firing would prevent abuse in 1v1 I'm for it.
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2013.02.01 04:34:00 - [18] - Quote No prone. Going prone makes you a really hard target, which gives people who are prone a serious advantage at longer ranges versus people standing/crouched. This makes "camping" much more powerful, and slows the gameplay down a lot more, as people need to be far more cautious. I don't think that's a good direction to take Dust.
Coleus Rattus Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.02.01 13:09:00 - [19] - Quote I am for the abilty to go prone under one circumstance: You can turn only for 10 degrees in each direction when prone. To turn more, you have to get up, turn and go prone again.


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