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Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.31 20:38:00 -
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Halador Osiris wrote:I'm skilling into my DS right now. Just got to where I can use the top level shield extender. Going to bump my PG so I can fit 2 power diagnostic units (rather than powergrid upgrades), which will on their own give a boost to shields. Basically it's all about bumping the tank right now, swarms and rails are tearing me up out there. Got the tank to about 3600 last night. The thing costs 450,000 ISK. It'd better make it a few matches.
Nobody seems to like dropships right now, but when we get bigger maps I will be ready. I will carry you into battle.
Make sure you fit some blasters on your bird, they seem to be all I can get kills with when up in the air. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
92
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Posted - 2013.01.31 22:21:00 -
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Scoot Medic wrote:Makes me think what could be done with a Scout.
I'm going to look into this and try make my Scout a walking tank.
i think your gonna need atleast an advanced scout to make it a "tank", the scout suit is a little tricky because of how little health it starts with, and how few modules it gets, but i know for a fact you can make it pretty beefy at its higher levels. imagine a proto scout with a proto shotgun with about 500 health, thats pretty scary in my opinion, so its a good thing nobody ever skills into them |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
92
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Posted - 2013.01.31 22:27:00 -
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DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Marston VC wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Marston VC wrote:Instead of just trying to get higher level suits ive decided to make the type II suit as powerful as i can possibly make it, ive done the math and its possible to make it so that my type II suit can have almost 600 total health with my laser rifle, smg, av grenades, and nanohive if i get certain skills high enough. I like to call this horizontal skilling, where as just trying to get better suits would be vertical skilling. What are you guys doing with your SP? i figure that a type II with 600 health isn't all that bad ;) Type II is to low to do that, get to advanced and then start moving that way. and exactly what is it too low to do??? I gaurantee you that everything ive mentioned is true, with the right skills its possible to have a Type II suit with 600 health, 595 to be exact but thats just because nobody likes skilling into shield control lvl 5 (waste of time in my opinion), so 595 it is, so 600 health, with my standard laser rifle and smg. The only thing people are going to have up on me are assault rifles. It'll be difficult for me to beat a duvolle user with my standard smg up close, but tbh that would have been the same in the b-series suit as well. no, i think im going to make strong foundations for my future suits, rather then just try to jump strate to them with crap support skills I tried this approach the last two builds as I didn't want to go proto. I found the CPU is not the challenge as much as the PG is, as there are 4 types of ways to get CPU lower but 1 type to get better PG. That is the issue you will run into. Also I am going for Logi A series for 3 high and 3 low with my 3 Equipment slots, plus 55 PG over 39 and 273 CP over the 193 (from memory so numbers could be off). With this I can have options, I can do 3 damage mods for my MD or 3 shield extenders for Combat medic style. Also I can add shield regulators, hacking modules, armor rep, armor. With my current type II and my PG maxed out, I find I can't put most of what I need on my suit. But by the time I get home I will have the SP to get the A series and work towards MD 5 and then Prof 3.
now your talkin! i get what your saying, it might be hard to fit everything you want on the logi-type II so its understandable that you wanna get the a-series as i think its better in every way isn't it? Im content with just having a type II for the next three weeks, things are lookin bright in my eyes, im excited for the day when i hit my proto suit and realize i can fit almost any combination i want, as for PG, that is the only limit to my current idea but its something i can deal with for the time being.
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DEADPOOL5241
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
233
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Posted - 2013.01.31 22:34:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Marston VC wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Marston VC wrote:Instead of just trying to get higher level suits ive decided to make the type II suit as powerful as i can possibly make it, ive done the math and its possible to make it so that my type II suit can have almost 600 total health with my laser rifle, smg, av grenades, and nanohive if i get certain skills high enough. I like to call this horizontal skilling, where as just trying to get better suits would be vertical skilling. What are you guys doing with your SP? i figure that a type II with 600 health isn't all that bad ;) Type II is to low to do that, get to advanced and then start moving that way. and exactly what is it too low to do??? I gaurantee you that everything ive mentioned is true, with the right skills its possible to have a Type II suit with 600 health, 595 to be exact but thats just because nobody likes skilling into shield control lvl 5 (waste of time in my opinion), so 595 it is, so 600 health, with my standard laser rifle and smg. The only thing people are going to have up on me are assault rifles. It'll be difficult for me to beat a duvolle user with my standard smg up close, but tbh that would have been the same in the b-series suit as well. no, i think im going to make strong foundations for my future suits, rather then just try to jump strate to them with crap support skills I tried this approach the last two builds as I didn't want to go proto. I found the CPU is not the challenge as much as the PG is, as there are 4 types of ways to get CPU lower but 1 type to get better PG. That is the issue you will run into. Also I am going for Logi A series for 3 high and 3 low with my 3 Equipment slots, plus 55 PG over 39 and 273 CP over the 193 (from memory so numbers could be off). With this I can have options, I can do 3 damage mods for my MD or 3 shield extenders for Combat medic style. Also I can add shield regulators, hacking modules, armor rep, armor. With my current type II and my PG maxed out, I find I can't put most of what I need on my suit. But by the time I get home I will have the SP to get the A series and work towards MD 5 and then Prof 3. now your talkin! i get what your saying, it might be hard to fit everything you want on the logi-type II so its understandable that you wanna get the a-series as i think its better in every way isn't it? Im content with just having a type II for the next three weeks, things are lookin bright in my eyes, im excited for the day when i hit my proto suit and realize i can fit almost any combination i want, as for PG, that is the only limit to my current idea but its something i can deal with for the time being.
Yeah just wanted to give you the heads up on PG, it stopped many of my ideas until I got to A-series or better. Then it was almost to easy to put on what ever I wanted. Have goals for your builds, (jesus Im sounding like I did on DCUO again, FML) for example have a survival fit and a damage fit. All extenders or all damage mods. Play around and see what works for you, if you are a combat medic the maybe more shields. If you want to work on K/D go damage mods. If you want middle ground find what combo of both works. By the end of today, Ill have 10 new builds out for this new suit. Ill post some of my testing if you would like it here.
Also +1, you need more Likes Marston. Its a dam good thread and good posting so you will see more likes from me for work like this. |
Halador Osiris
Dead Six Initiative
47
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Posted - 2013.01.31 22:37:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:Halador Osiris wrote:I'm skilling into my DS right now. Just got to where I can use the top level shield extender. Going to bump my PG so I can fit 2 power diagnostic units (rather than powergrid upgrades), which will on their own give a boost to shields. Basically it's all about bumping the tank right now, swarms and rails are tearing me up out there. Got the tank to about 3600 last night. The thing costs 450,000 ISK. It'd better make it a few matches.
Nobody seems to like dropships right now, but when we get bigger maps I will be ready. I will carry you into battle. Make sure you fit some blasters on your bird, they seem to be all I can get kills with when up in the air. I've got the basic ones, I know that feel. I'm gonna skill them up soon, but I can't quite figure out which ones will be the best for anti-infantry. I've heard scattered, but do they track fast enough to track infantry? |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
92
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Posted - 2013.01.31 23:08:00 -
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Yeah just wanted to give you the heads up on PG, it stopped many of my ideas until I got to A-series or better. Then it was almost to easy to put on what ever I wanted. Have goals for your builds, (jesus Im sounding like I did on DCUO again, FML) for example have a survival fit and a damage fit. All extenders or all damage mods. Play around and see what works for you, if you are a combat medic the maybe more shields. If you want to work on K/D go damage mods. If you want middle ground find what combo of both works. By the end of today, Ill have 10 new builds out for this new suit. Ill post some of my testing if you would like it here.
Also +1, you need more Likes Marston. Its a dam good thread and good posting so you will see more likes from me for work like this.[/quote]
yeah man no probs, ive looked into almost everything there is revolving around this suit and i was aware of the pg problem, the only other skill that effects PG is Armor upgrades which ironically enough having at level 1 makes it so the basic armor plate takes up 0 PG.
heres a fun fact that you might not of known. EVERY STAT IN THIS GAME ROUNDS DOWN. It doesn't matter how close the stat is to being the next whole number up, it'll round down, so for example my basic armor plate has a 1 PG requirement, but because having level 1 armor upgrades (which is the prerequisit for unlocking the basic armor plate) decreases armor upgrading modules PG usage by 3% each level, it rounds down to 0 instead of .97 PG. I dont know if this is intended by CCP, but it makes fitting this suit about 150,000SP easier for me. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
92
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Posted - 2013.02.01 04:13:00 -
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Sontie wrote:I have a character putting all his skill points into scanning right now, type-i scout suit and adv shotgun. Shoot him and he dies, period, but he will be able to scan you down from something like 92 meters... Your proto suit or super skills will still go down to point blank shotgun fire to teh back.
isn't scanning broken right now??? i tryed it once and i couldn't see a difference...... |
Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
264
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Posted - 2013.02.01 05:47:00 -
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Skilkjng into EVERYTHING will as 75% of the stuff is missing. |
lowratehitman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
284
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Posted - 2013.02.01 05:55:00 -
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I run a type II, working on my light wepon sharp shooter x9 0o
You know the first rule of combat? Shoot them before they shoot you. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
254
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Posted - 2013.02.01 06:54:00 -
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HMG lv 1 atm I'm not going to get it up until i get shield control lv 4 armor repair to lv3 and forge to at least 4.im gunna stick to type II heavy for awhile. After all... It doesn't really get better for us heavies after type II . Also I'm not sure why people skilled up HMG's from the get go.... Seems like waste of sp early on as the reg HMG shreds everything till B series Assaults.
I've already got complex extenders (last week) so I'm basically maxing shield skills and armor repair skills first. |
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Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
431
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Posted - 2013.02.01 06:56:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Instead of just trying to get higher level suits ive decided to make the type II suit as powerful as i can possibly make it, ive done the math and its possible to make it so that my type II suit can have almost 600 total health with my laser rifle, smg, av grenades, and nanohive if i get certain skills high enough. I like to call this horizontal skilling, where as just trying to get better suits would be vertical skilling. What are you guys doing with your SP? i figure that a type II with 600 health isn't all that bad ;) I don't think you understand that the higher tier suits have more PG/CPU so you can have more powerful modules. |
Imp Smash
On The Brink
51
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Posted - 2013.02.01 07:07:00 -
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Focus on your global passives. Lots of new weapons suits modules and vehicles are in the works. New mechanics as well. As such you might want to switch your skill focus later. So it might be good to focus on buying things that improve you overall regardless of what style you end up with. At least that's what I'm doing. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
92
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:17:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Marston VC wrote:Instead of just trying to get higher level suits ive decided to make the type II suit as powerful as i can possibly make it, ive done the math and its possible to make it so that my type II suit can have almost 600 total health with my laser rifle, smg, av grenades, and nanohive if i get certain skills high enough. I like to call this horizontal skilling, where as just trying to get better suits would be vertical skilling. What are you guys doing with your SP? i figure that a type II with 600 health isn't all that bad ;) I don't think you understand that the higher tier suits have more PG/CPU so you can have more powerful modules.
i dont think you understand what im trying to do. By skilling up cpu related skills, im making it so that i CAN fit higher level gear onto the suit. Im trying to make it so that i can use complex shield extenders without having to put a cpu upgrade on my suit, and still run everything else i run. By the time i get to my proto suit, ill have it so that i can run Four complex shield extenders, along with the proto laser, and proto smg. This is just building a strong foundation for the future! |
Don Von Hulio
UnReaL.
90
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:18:00 -
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The world chico... and everything in it. |
OMI43221
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.02.01 17:38:00 -
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Logi A, complex profile dampeners, damage mods, charged sniper rifle, weaponry.
"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." |
Morathi III
Rebelles A Quebec
57
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Posted - 2013.02.01 18:05:00 -
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Scout, type A, shield enhqancement 4 , sharpshooter profencie 2, shotgun 3, now focusing on radar |
recons283
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:08:00 -
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Advanced scout dropsuit and advanced shotgun by tomorrow. Then I'll go for either vehicles or dropsuit modules. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
92
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:44:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:Scout, type A, shield enhqancement 4 , sharpshooter profencie 2, shotgun 3, now focusing on radar
do you think its worth it??? upgrading things like radar ect??? |
Morathi III
Rebelles A Quebec
57
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:46:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Morathi III wrote:Scout, type A, shield enhqancement 4 , sharpshooter profencie 2, shotgun 3, now focusing on radar do you think its worth it??? upgrading things like radar ect??? For scout shotgun i guess yes, fora laser rifle.... Really not marston |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
296
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:59:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Focus on your global passives. Lots of new weapons suits modules and vehicles are in the works. New mechanics as well. As such you might want to switch your skill focus later. So it might be good to focus on buying things that improve you overall regardless of what style you end up with. At least that's what I'm doing.
This is a good plan and one I'm trying to focus on as well. Weaponry 5 was must first skill to max. Then I trained all the armor skills to 3 to support my logistics duties. Now I'm working through all the Rank 1 core skills that affect drop suits and training them to 5. Finally, I'll train up the shield skills to maximize my defenses. Only then will I train to Minmatar Logistics 3 and get into an A-Type suit.
In the CAST514 podcast that just came out Praetorian mentioned that the racial dropsuits are coming very soon. Funny thing is the Minmatar Logistics is my primary dropsuit. Once the Minmatar Scout suit shows up I'll probably make that my secondary.
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crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.02.01 20:08:00 -
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speed mods, hacking mods, RAWR |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.02.01 20:08:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:Halador Osiris wrote:I'm skilling into my DS right now. Just got to where I can use the top level shield extender. Going to bump my PG so I can fit 2 power diagnostic units (rather than powergrid upgrades), which will on their own give a boost to shields. Basically it's all about bumping the tank right now, swarms and rails are tearing me up out there. Got the tank to about 3600 last night. The thing costs 450,000 ISK. It'd better make it a few matches.
Nobody seems to like dropships right now, but when we get bigger maps I will be ready. I will carry you into battle. Make sure you fit some blasters on your bird, they seem to be all I can get kills with when up in the air. I find the high damage railguns work better : ) The ones you ned level 2 blasters for, they kick ass. Plus throw a spool up time reducion or turning speed boost and they are amazing |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
92
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Posted - 2013.02.02 00:40:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:Marston VC wrote:Morathi III wrote:Scout, type A, shield enhqancement 4 , sharpshooter profencie 2, shotgun 3, now focusing on radar do you think its worth it??? upgrading things like radar ect??? For scout shotgun i guess yes, fora laser rifle.... Really not marston
lol fair enough, but i wouldn't use a gun like that for sneaking anyway, i dont get how so many people have so much trouble with scout shotguns, ps i think there was some sort of eve battle or something cuz dust server was crazy laggy a couple hours ago.... |
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