DUST Search - what are you guys planning SP wise??

Marston VC wrote:

DEADPOOL5241 wrote:

Marston VC wrote:

Instead of just trying to get higher level suits ive decided to make the type II suit as powerful as i can possibly make it, ive done the math and its possible to make it so that my type II suit can have almost 600 total health with my laser rifle, smg, av grenades, and nanohive if i get certain skills high enough. I like to call this horizontal skilling, where as just trying to get better suits would be vertical skilling. What are you guys doing with your SP? i figure that a type II with 600 health isn't all that bad ;)

Type II is to low to do that, get to advanced and then start moving that way.

and exactly what is it too low to do??? I gaurantee you that everything ive mentioned is true, with the right skills its possible to have a Type II suit with 600 health, 595 to be exact but thats just because nobody likes skilling into shield control lvl 5 (waste of time in my opinion), so 595 it is, so 600 health, with my standard laser rifle and smg. The only thing people are going to have up on me are assault rifles. It'll be difficult for me to beat a duvolle user with my standard smg up close, but tbh that would have been the same in the b-series suit as well. no, i think im going to make strong foundations for my future suits, rather then just try to jump strate to them with crap support skills Pirate

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ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 197	Posted - 2013.01.31 14:53:00 - [31] - Quote Got myself all skilled up as a heavy, to the point where im happy. Just have to finish up some base skills then il start trying out some different guns... see what i like... After that im thinking drop ships just because il be ready when they get fixed!!
Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 788	Posted - 2013.01.31 14:55:00 - [32] - Quote I don't know about you guys... But I'd hold off on putting SP into dropsuits for the next little while. >:)
SCAT mania Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 76	Posted - 2013.01.31 15:00:00 - [33] - Quote saving for sharpshooter lvl 5 4tw.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2013.01.31 15:04:00 - [34] - Quote Marston VC wrote: D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote: hey, type II saves you a lot of ISK and SP but it has its limitations. It can only support double complex shield extenders and double armor plating only if you sacrifice grenades, a secondary weapon slot, and your equipment slot. Oh and until your A series your stuck with a standard assault rifle. Type II dose'nt support a GEK-38 and 602 total HP ahhh but you see thats where your wrong. My suit will be able to fit my standard laser rifle, Toxin SMG, nanohive, AND AV grenades, while also have 595 health, WITH an armor rep on it too, now ill admit that the suit does have its limitations, but with the correct skills ill be able to go further with them then i think anyone else has so far btw i just checked and the suit im fitting could also handle a GEK as well (while maintaing 595 HP). I'm doing it pretty much exactly like you Marston, along with trying to get a solid swarm launcher build for the assault. Also diverting maybe 20% of my skillpoints into scout suit/mobility-stamina/scan profile reduction/scan strength increase/uplinks for initial drop and red-line recovery. Its working pretty good atm, we'll see what happens as the specialists skill up - I've already been killed by Creodrons and Duvolles.
DEADPOOL5241 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 233	Posted - 2013.01.31 15:09:00 - [35] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Instead of just trying to get higher level suits ive decided to make the type II suit as powerful as i can possibly make it, ive done the math and its possible to make it so that my type II suit can have almost 600 total health with my laser rifle, smg, av grenades, and nanohive if i get certain skills high enough. I like to call this horizontal skilling, where as just trying to get better suits would be vertical skilling. What are you guys doing with your SP? i figure that a type II with 600 health isn't all that bad ;) Type II is to low to do that, get to advanced and then start moving that way.
Solomon Malcolm BurgezzE.T.F 13	Posted - 2013.01.31 15:13:00 - [36] - Quote Maybe it's Just me, but i know everyone has their TRUE Plans After the SP Cap is put in the game.
Spartan Agoge SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 20	Posted - 2013.01.31 15:13:00 - [37] - Quote DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Marston VC wrote: Instead of just trying to get higher level suits ive decided to make the type II suit as powerful as i can possibly make it, ive done the math and its possible to make it so that my type II suit can have almost 600 total health with my laser rifle, smg, av grenades, and nanohive if i get certain skills high enough. I like to call this horizontal skilling, where as just trying to get better suits would be vertical skilling. What are you guys doing with your SP? i figure that a type II with 600 health isn't all that bad ;) Type II is to low to do that, get to advanced and then start moving that way. That's a good plan with the type two but there are too many advantages to an advanced suit that out weigh the standard dropsuit's potential.
FIRECRACKER your moma OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 0	Posted - 2013.01.31 15:17:00 - [38] - Quote proto suits are only a week away 4 those who went 4 them
Fox Gaden DUST University Ivy League 165	Posted - 2013.01.31 15:21:00 - [39] - Quote 56 truth wrote: im i the only one who is skilling in everything even thought it may take seven years? In the next seven years more skills will be added to the game than exist in the game currently. Probably a lot more. I thought I read somewhere that a few EVE players who started at launch and used the most expensive implants had managed to learn all the skills there were to learn. Of course there are more skills being added to EVE all the time, as their will be for DUST. Most DUST players, as in EVE, will only ever learn a small fraction of the skills available. Of course if you do manage it, it would give you some notoriety.
Sontie VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 95	Posted - 2013.01.31 15:24:00 - [40] - Quote I have a character putting all his skill points into scanning right now, type-i scout suit and adv shotgun. Shoot him and he dies, period, but he will be able to scan you down from something like 92 meters... Your proto suit or super skills will still go down to point blank shotgun fire to teh back.

arimal lavaren L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 186	Posted - 2013.01.31 15:24:00 - [41] - Quote My strategy has been similar took the bare minimum I thought I'd need in weapons and logi gear and have so far dumped all the rest in armor and shield skills. Just hopped into my A-series a few days ago and it is a fairly rugged build so far. Waiting on those complex shield extenders(next day or two) now and i'll be set for awhile I think.
Midas Man ll Talon Strike Force LTD Sleepless Knights Alliance 38	Posted - 2013.01.31 15:38:00 - [42] - Quote SCAT mania wrote: saving for sharpshooter lvl 5 4tw. This, then Sharpshooter prof to 5, then get the last few levels of assault rifle prof. Assault "sniper" FTW. The sniper hate mails you recieve make it all worthwhile.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2013.01.31 15:47:00 - [43] - Quote I'm focusing on passive skills and the SMG, while waiting on the next build to make that final decision on Scout or Assault. (We'll see what cloaking brings.) At some point I'm basically going to be starting a character from scratch, only with a huge base of passive skills.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 296	Posted - 2013.01.31 16:07:00 - [44] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: I don't know about you guys... But I'd hold off on putting SP into dropsuits for the next little while. >:) Do you think we're that close to more racial dropsuit variants? Personally, I'm in the suit i've always planned for.
FIRECRACKER your moma OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 0	Posted - 2013.01.31 16:51:00 - [45] - Quote Knarf Black wrote: I'm focusing on passive skills and the SMG, while waiting on the next build to make that final decision on Scout or Assault. (We'll see what cloaking brings.) At some point I'm basically going to be starting a character from scratch, only with a huge base of passive skills. there will not be any wipe. this is it .
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 283	Posted - 2013.01.31 17:11:00 - [46] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Vesta Ren wrote: Putting points into vehicles, the great SP sink :P my av nades gonna kill your vehicle and my forge gun
Dagon Cthulhu Clone Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2013.01.31 17:13:00 - [47] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: I don't know about you guys... But I'd hold off on putting SP into dropsuits for the next little while. >:) this tbh, and if your planning on skilling into shields and armour, dont until we find out if there is going to be a role bonus on suits
Scoot Medic ZionTCD Legacy Rising 50	Posted - 2013.01.31 17:18:00 - [48] - Quote Makes me think what could be done with a Scout. I'm going to look into this and try make my Scout a walking tank.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 92	Posted - 2013.01.31 17:26:00 - [49] - Quote DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Marston VC wrote: Instead of just trying to get higher level suits ive decided to make the type II suit as powerful as i can possibly make it, ive done the math and its possible to make it so that my type II suit can have almost 600 total health with my laser rifle, smg, av grenades, and nanohive if i get certain skills high enough. I like to call this horizontal skilling, where as just trying to get better suits would be vertical skilling. What are you guys doing with your SP? i figure that a type II with 600 health isn't all that bad ;) Type II is to low to do that, get to advanced and then start moving that way. and exactly what is it too low to do??? I gaurantee you that everything ive mentioned is true, with the right skills its possible to have a Type II suit with 600 health, 595 to be exact but thats just because nobody likes skilling into shield control lvl 5 (waste of time in my opinion), so 595 it is, so 600 health, with my standard laser rifle and smg. The only thing people are going to have up on me are assault rifles. It'll be difficult for me to beat a duvolle user with my standard smg up close, but tbh that would have been the same in the b-series suit as well. no, i think im going to make strong foundations for my future suits, rather then just try to jump strate to them with crap support skills
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 92	Posted - 2013.01.31 17:32:00 - [50] - Quote Spartan Agoge wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Marston VC wrote: Instead of just trying to get higher level suits ive decided to make the type II suit as powerful as i can possibly make it, ive done the math and its possible to make it so that my type II suit can have almost 600 total health with my laser rifle, smg, av grenades, and nanohive if i get certain skills high enough. I like to call this horizontal skilling, where as just trying to get better suits would be vertical skilling. What are you guys doing with your SP? i figure that a type II with 600 health isn't all that bad ;) Type II is to low to do that, get to advanced and then start moving that way. That's a good plan with the type two but there are too many advantages to an advanced suit that out weigh the standard dropsuit's potential. the only major advantage i see in an andvanced suit is the ability to put a higher weapon grade on the suit while also having a full tank. But in my case that advantage is negated at range because ill have a comparible tank to ANY advanced assault build, while also doing way more damage then them at range. The only way i can forsee me regretting this decision is if everyone switches over to proto laser rifles, or proto tact rifles, but since i dont see that happening i think what im doing will benefit me in the future! granted a b-series suit will have a noticeable advantage over me in CQC IF there using a proto rifle, but as a laser user ive learned to avoid those scenarios and have gotten much better at using the SMG, so those things coupled should help compensate for that disadvantage.

Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 92	Posted - 2013.01.31 17:34:00 - [51] - Quote Sontie wrote: I have a character putting all his skill points into scanning right now, type-i scout suit and adv shotgun. Shoot him and he dies, period, but he will be able to scan you down from something like 92 meters... Your proto suit or super skills will still go down to point blank shotgun fire to teh back. you'd think that, but its not like im gonna stand still long enough for you to get a complete shot off on my suit
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2013.01.31 17:36:00 - [52] - Quote FIRECRACKER your moma wrote: Knarf Black wrote: I'm focusing on passive skills and the SMG, while waiting on the next build to make that final decision on Scout or Assault. (We'll see what cloaking brings.) At some point I'm basically going to be starting a character from scratch, only with a huge base of passive skills. there will not be any wipe. this is it . I know. They don't let you keep your passive skills through a wipe. I meant I'll have a character who can still go in any number of directions (including weapons or suits that haven't been introduced yet), only with a bunch of sidearm and passive skills as a base.
DEADPOOL5241 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 233	Posted - 2013.01.31 17:39:00 - [53] - Quote Spartan Agoge wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Marston VC wrote: Instead of just trying to get higher level suits ive decided to make the type II suit as powerful as i can possibly make it, ive done the math and its possible to make it so that my type II suit can have almost 600 total health with my laser rifle, smg, av grenades, and nanohive if i get certain skills high enough. I like to call this horizontal skilling, where as just trying to get better suits would be vertical skilling. What are you guys doing with your SP? i figure that a type II with 600 health isn't all that bad ;) Type II is to low to do that, get to advanced and then start moving that way. That's a good plan with the type two but there are too many advantages to an advanced suit that out weigh the standard dropsuit's potential. Agreed.
DEADPOOL5241 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 233	Posted - 2013.01.31 17:43:00 - [54] - Quote Marston VC wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Marston VC wrote: Instead of just trying to get higher level suits ive decided to make the type II suit as powerful as i can possibly make it, ive done the math and its possible to make it so that my type II suit can have almost 600 total health with my laser rifle, smg, av grenades, and nanohive if i get certain skills high enough. I like to call this horizontal skilling, where as just trying to get better suits would be vertical skilling. What are you guys doing with your SP? i figure that a type II with 600 health isn't all that bad ;) Type II is to low to do that, get to advanced and then start moving that way. and exactly what is it too low to do??? I gaurantee you that everything ive mentioned is true, with the right skills its possible to have a Type II suit with 600 health, 595 to be exact but thats just because nobody likes skilling into shield control lvl 5 (waste of time in my opinion), so 595 it is, so 600 health, with my standard laser rifle and smg. The only thing people are going to have up on me are assault rifles. It'll be difficult for me to beat a duvolle user with my standard smg up close, but tbh that would have been the same in the b-series suit as well. no, i think im going to make strong foundations for my future suits, rather then just try to jump strate to them with crap support skills I tried this approach the last two builds as I didn't want to go proto. I found the CPU is not the challenge as much as the PG is, as there are 4 types of ways to get CPU lower but 1 type to get better PG. That is the issue you will run into. Also I am going for Logi A series for 3 high and 3 low with my 3 Equipment slots, plus 55 PG over 39 and 273 CP over the 193 (from memory so numbers could be off). With this I can have options, I can do 3 damage mods for my MD or 3 shield extenders for Combat medic style. Also I can add shield regulators, hacking modules, armor rep, armor. With my current type II and my PG maxed out, I find I can't put most of what I need on my suit. But by the time I get home I will have the SP to get the A series and work towards MD 5 and then Prof 3.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.31 17:44:00 - [55] - Quote I'm doing what I consider "Flat lining." Got Type-II, level 1 HMG, and Weaponry V for mods. And nothing else is needed. Nothing. Just going to hoard this SP until next build. Then enjoy the tears as everyone goes, "HOW DID YOU GET A PROTO CRUSADER SUIT SO FAST?!" Or one of the many toys I'm expecting :)
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2013.01.31 17:52:00 - [56] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: I'm doing what I consider "Flat lining." Got Type-II, level 1 HMG, and Weaponry V for mods. And nothing else is needed. Nothing. Just going to hoard this SP until next build. Then enjoy the tears as everyone goes, "HOW DID YOU GET A PROTO CRUSADER SUIT SO FAST?!" Or one of the many toys I'm expecting :) That must take incredible self control. I have a hard time saving for anything when there are level one skills that will slightly improve my merc's performance right now. I suppose it helps that your HMG can probably squish newberries into a paste without much trouble.
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2013.01.31 18:15:00 - [57] - Quote shield control for now and max out field mechanics
TODDSTER024 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 33	Posted - 2013.01.31 18:30:00 - [58] - Quote In the other builds I started with my gun. Since there is no more reset, first I'm doing shields and armor - LMG- nano-hacking-mobility/vigor-nades-CPU/pg-shield extenders/armor plates-drop suit-forge
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1904	Posted - 2013.01.31 19:07:00 - [59] - Quote I have a few playstyles I'm skilling into, I don't have to lean on gear as a crutch so I have a bit more freedom with having a flexible range of skills.
Halador Osiris Dead Six Initiative 47	Posted - 2013.01.31 20:18:00 - [60] - Quote I'm skilling into my DS right now. Just got to where I can use the top level shield extender. Going to bump my PG so I can fit 2 power diagnostic units (rather than powergrid upgrades), which will on their own give a boost to shields. Basically it's all about bumping the tank right now, swarms and rails are tearing me up out there. Got the tank to about 3600 last night. The thing costs 450,000 ISK. It'd better make it a few matches. Nobody seems to like dropships right now, but when we get bigger maps I will be ready. I will carry you into battle.



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