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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
172
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Posted - 2013.01.29 18:38:00 -
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After reading an article on EVE and the infamous GoonSwaffe doing some crazy stuff...a questioned popped into my mind.
How will capsuleer corporations be ganking us?
Srsly? What can they do to us that will make us shake in fear? I mean other than shoot tha lasers our way?
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Kay High
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
86
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Posted - 2013.01.29 18:44:00 -
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the best way for them to do this is to have dust players but FPS'ers are a different style than PC Gamers so in general they wont care. |
Sontie
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
95
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Posted - 2013.01.29 18:47:00 -
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They won't be ganking us. They wil be hiring us to gank the planetary assets of others.
We are dust compared to them. We mean little to nothing. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
172
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Posted - 2013.01.29 18:49:00 -
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Kay High wrote:the best way for them to do this is to have dust players but FPS'ers are a different style than PC Gamers so in general they wont care.
Are you saying they'll need to work with Dust players?
Also...why wouldn't they care? It's not about the system you're using it's about the ISK and Aurum.
Edit:
Right now we're just "dust" to them...later on we'll be able to do a lot more. Not only that but the big mercenary corporations will have had collected tens of billions or maybe even hundreds of billions of ISK when the game really gets interesting. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.01.29 18:54:00 -
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when the economy's are integrated? who knows but we could get really screwed on the supplies side |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
172
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:00:00 -
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D: You guys ain't got no imagination. Come on. No one can take a guess?
I'd imagine them paying for Dust 514 mercenary spies and make em infiltrate their enemies Dust alliance and wreak all sorts of havoc like tricking the players into attacking the other side of the alliance or stealing ISK so that the Dust mercenaries wouldn't be properly funded to go against the employer's hired corporations. |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:02:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:How will capsuleer corporations be ganking us?Srsly? What can they do to us that will make us shake in fear? I mean other than shoot tha lasers our way? EVE pilots walk among you on the ground. I am one of them.
Your corporation will be infiltrated. Your assets will be stolen. You will die to seemingly friendly fire. Your corporation will be disbanded. Your allies will turn on you. You will be subjected to socioeconomic warfare. Armies will be flattened into sheets of glass. Your clone won't die, but your spirit will be crushed.
Are you ready? We are. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:05:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:How will capsuleer corporations be ganking us?Srsly? What can they do to us that will make us shake in fear? I mean other than shoot tha lasers our way? EVE pilots walk among you on the ground. I am one of them. Your corporation will be infiltrated. Your assets will be stolen. You will die to seemingly friendly fire. Your corporation will be disbanded. Your allies will turn on you. You will be subjected to socioeconomic warfare. Armies will be flattened into sheets of glass. Your clone won't die, but your spirit will crushed. Are you ready? We are.
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
172
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:06:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:How will capsuleer corporations be ganking us?Srsly? What can they do to us that will make us shake in fear? I mean other than shoot tha lasers our way? EVE pilots walk among you on the ground. I am one of them. Your corporation will be infiltrated. Your assets will be stolen. You will die to seemingly friendly fire. Your corporation will be disbanded. Your allies will turn on you. You will be subjected to socioeconomic warfare. Armies will be flattened into sheets of glass. Your clone won't die, but your spirit will be crushed. Are you ready? We are.
:D This guy knows what I'm talking about! |
Ghost-33
ShootBreakStab
108
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:20:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Full Metal Kitten wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:How will capsuleer corporations be ganking us?Srsly? What can they do to us that will make us shake in fear? I mean other than shoot tha lasers our way? EVE pilots walk among you on the ground. I am one of them. Your corporation will be infiltrated. Your assets will be stolen. You will die to seemingly friendly fire. Your corporation will be disbanded. Your allies will turn on you. You will be subjected to socioeconomic warfare. Armies will be flattened into sheets of glass. Your clone won't die, but your spirit will be crushed. Are you ready? We are. :D This guy knows what I'm talking about!
Meh, I still got my militia BPO fits. You should realize most of us Dusters don't need fancy spaceships or quadrillions of ISK or a place to live.... or even friends. We just kill with what we got; and enjoy the hell out of it. |
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Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:33:00 -
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Ghost-33 wrote:Meh, I still got my militia BPO fits. You should realize most of us Dusters don't need fancy spaceships or quadrillions of ISK or a place to live.... or even friends. Excellent. This is exactly what we're hoping for.
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Ghost-33
ShootBreakStab
108
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Posted - 2013.01.29 20:19:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:Ghost-33 wrote:Meh, I still got my militia BPO fits. You should realize most of us Dusters don't need fancy spaceships or quadrillions of ISK or a place to live.... or even friends. Excellent. This is exactly what we're hoping for.
We're crumbling like dried up putty in your hands.
No really its a game, people will do what they want to in them. You and I included. If you would like to think of it as real life domination and you're controlling me or anyone else knock your self out. But the reality is nobody can really get ganked in a game. And if someone does then they have bigger problems in their life to deal with, Maybe rehab?
All the spies, turncoats, villans, douchebaggery tactics or idiots (is their actually anything good in New Eden?) won't prevent me from enjoying this game. |
C Saunders
Serenity Prime Kraken.
158
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Posted - 2013.01.29 20:45:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:How will capsuleer corporations be ganking us?Srsly? What can they do to us that will make us shake in fear? I mean other than shoot tha lasers our way? EVE pilots walk among you on the ground. I am one of them. Your corporation will be infiltrated. Your assets will be stolen. You will die to seemingly friendly fire. Your corporation will be disbanded. Your allies will turn on you. You will be subjected to socioeconomic warfare. Armies will be flattened into sheets of glass. Your clone won't die, but your spirit will be crushed. Are you ready? We are.
Yep, I'm ready.
Press start, select quit game, join another one.
I'm so terrified I'm shaking at the knees. |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2013.01.29 21:01:00 -
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Ghost-33 wrote:No really its a game, people will do what they want to in them... If you would like to think of it as real life domination and you're controlling me or anyone else knock your self out.
C Saunders wrote:Press start, select quit game, join another one. I'm so terrified I'm shaking at the knees.
Relax and have some fun with it guys. Enjoy the ride! |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
168
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Posted - 2013.01.29 21:15:00 -
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This is why EVE Online seemed to be pretty much a waste of my time. They enjoy bringing scum into their world and I prefer killing it.
Right now it doesn't matter because there is no actual point to Dust. We have no territory, acquisitions or technology. Maybe, just maybe we can help shift a Faction War in one direction or the other. More likely we can modify some random number by plus or minus 2%. If we get FW skilled up to level 5.
Ghost-33 and those like him are basically just scrubs with no money, no territory and no vision. DUST players care about a totally different set of values than cretins like that. We are either into the FPS or the RPG aspect of the game. Any decent sized EVE corp could buy All of DUST and would barely notice the dent in their ISK balance so someone that dreams about coming after pocket change ... well. No vision. They should be spending their time in EVE instead of epeening around here. Small fish, smaller pond, bigger relative epeen.
Maybe it is a small enough pond they think they stand a chance where in EVE they simply do not matter. Space barnacles all.
Check out RockPaperShotgun, they have two videos of a GoonSwarm pilot warping some silly ass big ship into enemy territory by accident. Hit the wrong button on their intuitive interface and a great video resulted. 222 ships were destroyed to an estimated value of 400-700B ISK (Infinitesimally Silly Kurrancy).
Sorry scrub, it's just bits. |
Shadowswipe
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.01.29 21:20:00 -
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They can issue two contracts, one to attack and one to defend a planet (One or both might be through a dumbie corp). In doing so they may just end up nuking both attackers and defenders from orbit to waste their isk heavy suits. Shooting at both sides with orbital strikes expecting to hit "Friendlies". |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2013.01.29 21:24:00 -
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Shadowswipe wrote:They can issue two contracts, one to attack and one to defend a planet (One or both might be through a dumbie corp). In doing so they may just end up nuking both attackers and defenders from orbit to waste their isk heavy suits. Shooting at both sides with orbital strikes expecting to hit "Friendlies".
I imagine most of the griefing will take the form of larger than requested orbital strikes. The merc provides coordinates to his supposed EVE ally, and the capsuleer nukes the entire battlefield instead for kittens and giggles. |
Need Some Triage
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:17:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Goonwaffe ftfy. Also Eve players are already here , and we will indeed infiltrate your corps, steal your stuff, and shoot you in the back, and then disband the corp when we are done. Totally fine by CCP. |
Tien TheSecond
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
198
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:23:00 -
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Need Some Triage wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:Goonwaffe ftfy. Also Eve players are already here , and we will indeed infiltrate your corps, steal your stuff, and shoot you in the back, and then disband the corp when we are done. Totally fine by CCP. The People's Hero, Reporting as Ordered!
(also still very floored at the number of infiltrated corps atm) |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:25:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:How will capsuleer corporations be ganking us?Srsly? What can they do to us that will make us shake in fear? I mean other than shoot tha lasers our way? EVE pilots walk among you on the ground. I am one of them. Your corporation will be infiltrated. Your assets will be stolen. You will die to seemingly friendly fire. Your corporation will be disbanded. Your allies will turn on you. You will be subjected to socioeconomic warfare. Armies will be flattened into sheets of glass. Your clone won't die, but your spirit will be crushed. Are you ready? We are. ...
You don't play a lot of online FPS games, do you? |
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HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:38:00 -
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Here we go again. Lol the evetard's are back again.
Oooo gonna steal stuff from the corp because you had a spy? Gonna disband the corp, really? So the other 50-100 guys in the corp who have been fighting alongside each other talking every night building friendships are just going to wake up the day after someone stole the corp wallet and say gee let's just all disband this corp and not work/play together again. Lol
Ccp has said all along that griefing is not just a one way street a pilot can't just fly up to a planet and nuke it without us able to defend ourselves. We will have the ability to fire back and destroy their lovely little space coffins.
The tax is going to equalize the economy so they will not just Be able to throw money into dust, otherwise it could severely cripple the eve universe economy and there paid economist will not let this happen.
The difference that dusters are is that it takes an army working together to be of any value to us. Yes you can take some money we will make it back, you will try to get people mad at each other and disrupt a corps synergy, but at the end of the day mercs only really fight for the guys next to them and the glory of the battle( and SP and gastun Hmg's)
Tin foil hat wearing space pirates have no more power over us than we do of them. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:39:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:This is why EVE Online seemed to be pretty much a waste of my time. They enjoy bringing scum into their world and I prefer killing it.
but the beauty of EVE is you can be a hero to the oppressed. the griefers are far from immortal. theres "good guy" players that are dedicated to baiting the griefers, the skies the limit in EVE. cooperation is the key. you can really give the griefers a bad time with some friends and dedication to the role. the amount of traps you can set for griefers is huge. |
Need Some Triage
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:44:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote: So the other 50-100 guys in the corp who have been fighting alongside each other talking every night building friendships are just going to wake up the day after someone stole the corp wallet and say gee let's just all disband this corp and not work/play together again. Lol
you clearly don't know how corp mechanics work. Corp can indeed be disbanded without approval of the other 50-100 people in the corp. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:51:00 -
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Need Some Triage wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote: So the other 50-100 guys in the corp who have been fighting alongside each other talking every night building friendships are just going to wake up the day after someone stole the corp wallet and say gee let's just all disband this corp and not work/play together again. Lol
you clearly don't know how corp mechanics work. Corp can indeed be disbanded without approval of the other 50-100 people in the corp. i believe his point was that most of those guys will stay in touch and just form another corp |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:54:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Need Some Triage wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote: So the other 50-100 guys in the corp who have been fighting alongside each other talking every night building friendships are just going to wake up the day after someone stole the corp wallet and say gee let's just all disband this corp and not work/play together again. Lol
you clearly don't know how corp mechanics work. Corp can indeed be disbanded without approval of the other 50-100 people in the corp. i believe his point was that most of those guys will stay in touch and just form another corp That is generally what happens with FPS guys.
Clan break up? Oh well, lets make a new one. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:58:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:gbghg wrote:Need Some Triage wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote: So the other 50-100 guys in the corp who have been fighting alongside each other talking every night building friendships are just going to wake up the day after someone stole the corp wallet and say gee let's just all disband this corp and not work/play together again. Lol
you clearly don't know how corp mechanics work. Corp can indeed be disbanded without approval of the other 50-100 people in the corp. i believe his point was that most of those guys will stay in touch and just form another corp That is generally what happens with FPS guys. Clan break up? Oh well, lets make a new one.
Eventually it will have more of an impact than that. When our corp went **** up we lost sov on 1/3 of our systems and lot our logistic chain of JBs in 12 hours.
Losing your corp and identity is a huge hit to morale. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.01.29 23:04:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Jotun Hiem wrote:gbghg wrote:Need Some Triage wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote: So the other 50-100 guys in the corp who have been fighting alongside each other talking every night building friendships are just going to wake up the day after someone stole the corp wallet and say gee let's just all disband this corp and not work/play together again. Lol
you clearly don't know how corp mechanics work. Corp can indeed be disbanded without approval of the other 50-100 people in the corp. i believe his point was that most of those guys will stay in touch and just form another corp That is generally what happens with FPS guys. Clan break up? Oh well, lets make a new one. Eventually it will have more of an impact than that. When our corp went **** up we lost sov on 1/3 of our systems and lot our logistic chain of JBs in 12 hours. Losing your corp and identity is a huge hit to morale. true but its a sad thing to say that most of the average fps gamer pride comes from his k/d ratio, not how his team is doing |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2013.01.29 23:05:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Here we go again. Lol the evetard's are back again.
Taste - OP was asking how EVE integration could effect DUST. Lighten up and use some imagination. Or don't. Either way, much respect to you. Been mowed down by your HMG more than once.
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Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2013.01.29 23:07:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Eventually it will have more of an impact than that. When our corp went **** up we lost sov on 1/3 of our systems and lot our logistic chain of JBs in 12 hours.
Losing your corp and identity is a huge hit to morale. I'm not saying it doesn't suck, it does.
But a lot of FPS players enjoy hanging out with buddies and blasting the enemy in the face. If they can still do that with their friends then I doubt they'll just drop DUST.
In EvE, the measure of your power is your wealth.
In DUST it's your marksmanship. |
Ranger SnakeBlood
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
126
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Posted - 2013.01.29 23:14:00 -
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Sure some one can jump in be a spy cause a rift split corps to allow their real allies to move in and clear out their systems but then you have 2 DUST corps who are at each others necks who see it as a comeback story to get there land back or to start a new empire and over a while that hatred of the people who broke off could lead to some interesting fights, |
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