DUST Search - why not on pc?

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

You are not allowed to mod MMOFPS games that's considered cheating in all of them.

As for reasons.

1 Xbox said F-off we're not bending over to allow you to connect this game to your servers, it must be on xbox live servers only.

2. PC game would compete agianst Eve-Online the only constant stream of revenue for CCP at 65 million a year. They have to pay the bills.

3. Sony litterally begged Dust 514 to be exclusive. Last rumors about Dust 514 is slated to become a 'launch' online title for PS4 and work of the PS4 client has already begun hence the slowdown of new builds from 6 weeks to 10 now and chances are since exclusive contracts are usually per year would mean that 2015 earliest we can see a PC title provided that dust 514 remains fiscally sound investment.

4. Sony has made extensive policy changes to make Dust 514 possible on console and for dust 514 alone it be a shame to waste all that money in changing policies and wasting it all. Most of these contracts are anywhere from 50 to 100 million and sony gets royalty on sales made though the store.

5. CCP wants to advertise Eve Online via dust 514 and increase paying player base but thats nearly all businesses goal just ccp is rather passionate on how they want to do it. We're currently sitting at 475,000 Active Pilots and have about 10% retention rate. (4 million pilots made so far in eve online about but this counts disposable alts as well) So if PC release came out too many player may quit Eve Online and destroy both games. If dust 514 becomes a smashing success and increases people who try and stay in eve online you may see an eventual PC launch.

6. If xbox lightens up and psn contract expires they can port Dust 514 to Xbox as well.

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Ryanki VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 29	Posted - 2013.01.28 08:16:00 - [1] - Quote so i searched a bit because im SURE this has been answered before, but I couldn't find it.. and also because i'm interested in seeing if any other info or opinions have developed over the time being. So I get why its not on xbox, but why isn't it on PC?
Three Double-A Batteries Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2013.01.28 08:22:00 - [2] - Quote http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn39/graphicscollection/gifs/2z87pfl.gif You would have to think its something CCP employees will be asking themselves in the middle of the night.
C Saunders Serenity Prime Kraken. 158	Posted - 2013.01.28 08:25:00 - [3] - Quote Ryanki wrote: so i searched a bit because im SURE this has been answered before, but I couldn't find it.. and also because i'm interested in seeing if any other info or opinions have developed over the time being. So I get why its not on xbox, but why isn't it on PC? Because FPS's are dominant on consoles. I couldn't give a **** what you PC elitists have to say. This games for console. It will stay like that.
Ryanki VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 29	Posted - 2013.01.28 08:26:00 - [4] - Quote C Saunders wrote: Because FPS's are dominant on consoles. I couldn't give a **** what you PC elitists have to say. This games for console. It will stay like that. being curious makes me a pc elitist? and that answer doesn't even make sense no wonder they think we're all tards
new hulk ZionTCD Legacy Rising 49	Posted - 2013.01.28 08:29:00 - [5] - Quote Kind of hard to hard to cross platform at the moment because psn dumbs are connection down a ton.while pc is on 30meg connection, and i have a 30meg connection it come out of psn at 10megs.
DTOracle Universal Allies Inc. 95	Posted - 2013.01.28 08:30:00 - [6] - Quote Because Dust was designed to be Eve online for consoles. Not to say it won't ever make it to PC, but it probably wouldn't exist otherwise. They didn't say "Let's make an FPS", they said "How can we bring Eve online to consoles?". Does it make sense now?
Ryanki VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 29	Posted - 2013.01.28 08:34:00 - [7] - Quote new hulk wrote: Kind of hard to hard to cross platform at the moment because psn dumbs are connection down a ton.while pc is on 30meg connection, and i have a 30meg connection it come out of psn at 10megs. yeah i guess that makes sense DTOracle wrote: Because Dust was designed to be Eve online for consoles. Not to say it won't ever make it to PC, but it probably wouldn't exist otherwise. They didn't say "Let's make an FPS", they said "How can we bring Eve online to consoles?". Does it make sense now? Was that how Dust was conceived? I wouldn't know, but i guess that makes more sense than a MMORPG company randomly deciding to try out the fps market
C Saunders Serenity Prime Kraken. 158	Posted - 2013.01.28 08:46:00 - [8] - Quote Ryanki wrote: and that answer doesn't even make sense I'll quote myself. C Saunders wrote: Because FPS's are dominant on consoles.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 134	Posted - 2013.01.28 08:49:00 - [9] - Quote 1: Dust was a console game long before it was an FPS. The reasons being both that the console market is huge and if CCP released a game based on EVE on the PC, it would mostly just dilute the EVE player base instead of attracting all new cusomers to the franchise. 2: The FPS market is much, MUCH larger on consoles than on PC. 3: The exlusivity contract CCP has with Sony is probably in exchange for all the changes Sony had to make in order for the Dust-EVE interation to even be possible. EDIT: 4: Denak Kalamari wrote: Because of Planetside 2. They both are MMOFPS', both are published by Sony and Sony doesn't want competition on either of the games.
Denak Kalamari CrimeWave Syndicate 80	Posted - 2013.01.28 08:49:00 - [10] - Quote Because of Planetside 2. They both are MMOFPS', both are published by Sony and Sony doesn't want competition on either of the games.

SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.28 08:50:00 - [11] - Quote C Saunders wrote: Ryanki wrote: and that answer doesn't even make sense I'll quote myself. C Saunders wrote: Because FPS's are dominant on consoles. And yet - they're better on computers in every single way. Consoles are just easier on the wallet then a high end PC >_>
Jayquan18 The Southern Legion 42	Posted - 2013.01.28 09:10:00 - [12] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: C Saunders wrote: Ryanki wrote: and that answer doesn't even make sense I'll quote myself. C Saunders wrote: Because FPS's are dominant on consoles. And yet - they're better on computers in every single way. Consoles are just easier on the wallet then a high end PC >_> We don't care about crappy computers. Consoles all the way!
BattleCry1791 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 116	Posted - 2013.01.28 09:11:00 - [13] - Quote Ryanki wrote: so i searched a bit because im SURE this has been answered before, but I couldn't find it.. and also because i'm interested in seeing if any other info or opinions have developed over the time being. So I get why its not on xbox, but why isn't it on PC? This comment has been edited by a moderator because it is in breach of the rules of conduct of this community.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.28 09:11:00 - [14] - Quote Jayquan18 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: C Saunders wrote: Ryanki wrote: and that answer doesn't even make sense I'll quote myself. C Saunders wrote: Because FPS's are dominant on consoles. And yet - they're better on computers in every single way. Consoles are just easier on the wallet then a high end PC >_> We don't care about crappy computers. Consoles all the way! If PC didn't have all the good Real Time Strategy games I'd be right there with ya lol
Noraa Anderson Nox Aeterna Security 184	Posted - 2013.01.28 09:12:00 - [15] - Quote Because money I guess.
Buzzin Fr0g KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 85	Posted - 2013.01.28 09:16:00 - [16] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: C Saunders wrote: Ryanki wrote: and that answer doesn't even make sense I'll quote myself. C Saunders wrote: Because FPS's are dominant on consoles. And yet - they're better on computers in every single way. Consoles are just easier on the wallet then a high end PC >_> Really, how? Mods? I used to be a PC FPS player. Wolfenstein, Doom, Duke Nukem, Delta Force, UT, QA, CS, BF1942/V/2/2142/3, Arma 1 & 2, Ghost Recon 1, CS Source, and plenty, plenty more. What makes them inherently better? Mods can make games interesting and sure, PC can handle more players, but neither of those are objective measures of quality. I can use a kb/m or controller on a console and a computer. Dust, for me, is good. It's the core game that I like, not the extra bells and whistles that horsepower can provide (although they can be nice).
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.28 18:00:00 - [17] - Quote You are not allowed to mod MMOFPS games that's considered cheating in all of them. As for reasons. 1 Xbox said F-off we're not bending over to allow you to connect this game to your servers, it must be on xbox live servers only. 2. PC game would compete agianst Eve-Online the only constant stream of revenue for CCP at 65 million a year. They have to pay the bills. 3. Sony litterally begged Dust 514 to be exclusive. Last rumors about Dust 514 is slated to become a 'launch' online title for PS4 and work of the PS4 client has already begun hence the slowdown of new builds from 6 weeks to 10 now and chances are since exclusive contracts are usually per year would mean that 2015 earliest we can see a PC title provided that dust 514 remains fiscally sound investment. 4. Sony has made extensive policy changes to make Dust 514 possible on console and for dust 514 alone it be a shame to waste all that money in changing policies and wasting it all. Most of these contracts are anywhere from 50 to 100 million and sony gets royalty on sales made though the store. 5. CCP wants to advertise Eve Online via dust 514 and increase paying player base but thats nearly all businesses goal just ccp is rather passionate on how they want to do it. We're currently sitting at 475,000 Active Pilots and have about 10% retention rate. (4 million pilots made so far in eve online about but this counts disposable alts as well) So if PC release came out too many player may quit Eve Online and destroy both games. If dust 514 becomes a smashing success and increases people who try and stay in eve online you may see an eventual PC launch. 6. If xbox lightens up and psn contract expires they can port Dust 514 to Xbox as well.
develsgun Phyrexian Engineering Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2013.01.28 18:20:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: You are not allowed to mod MMOFPS games that's considered cheating in all of them. As for reasons. 1 Xbox said F-off we're not bending over to allow you to connect this game to your servers, it must be on xbox live servers only. 2. PC game would compete agianst Eve-Online the only constant stream of revenue for CCP at 65 million a year. They have to pay the bills. 3. Sony litterally begged Dust 514 to be exclusive. Last rumors about Dust 514 is slated to become a 'launch' online title for PS4 and work of the PS4 client has already begun hence the slowdown of new builds from 6 weeks to 10 now and chances are since exclusive contracts are usually per year would mean that 2015 earliest we can see a PC title provided that dust 514 remains fiscally sound investment. 4. Sony has made extensive policy changes to make Dust 514 possible on console and for dust 514 alone it be a shame to waste all that money in changing policies and wasting it all. Most of these contracts are anywhere from 50 to 100 million and sony gets royalty on sales made though the store. 5. CCP wants to advertise Eve Online via dust 514 and increase paying player base but thats nearly all businesses goal just ccp is rather passionate on how they want to do it. We're currently sitting at 475,000 Active Pilots and have about 10% retention rate. (4 million pilots made so far in eve online about but this counts disposable alts as well) So if PC release came out too many player may quit Eve Online and destroy both games. If dust 514 becomes a smashing success and increases people who try and stay in eve online you may see an eventual PC launch. 6. If xbox lightens up and psn contract expires they can port Dust 514 to Xbox as well. Best explanation ull get
I HateMyFace BetaMax. 13	Posted - 2013.01.28 18:43:00 - [19] - Quote Dust is the coolest game.i have played in a long time. Makes me want to take a peek at eve
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.28 19:04:00 - [20] - Quote I HateMyFace wrote: Dust is the coolest game.i have played in a long time. Makes me want to take a peek at eve Be careful, eve online has ruined mmos for many players.

Lunamaria Hawkeye SyNergy Gaming 92	Posted - 2013.01.28 19:09:00 - [21] - Quote PCs can't handle DUST 514. Even with 2 graphics cards, my computer would struggle with it. You would have to turn down the graphics and lower the player count. Maybe down the road when PCs catch up with PS3, but by then PS4 will be out.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 72	Posted - 2013.01.28 19:11:00 - [22] - Quote Well for one, each and every PC shooter is infested with cheaters, be it just the closet ESP/wallhackers or the blatant aimbotters. Ive played every PC shooter worth playing and each and every one of them has cheaters that pay a subscription fee at their local cheaters hub that delivers them cheats that aren't picked up by the anti-cheats, or warns its players when its not safe. Wallhacks, Speedhacks, Flyhacks, no-spread, unlimited ammo, no recoil, unlimited stamina or just a few one of those packs comes with...its really not funny to go up against these guys match after match... Each time there is a patch/banwave the skill level of these players drops, but after 2-3 days they are back at peak efficiency, ie: cheating their nuts off and calling you scub or PWNED as they walk trough a wall and kill your team in a split second. Sure eventually they get banned, but when its a F2P game, they just make a new account to not "have fun" but to ruin "your fun", when they are ruining your day, then they having fun. APB, APB R, War Z, COD, BF3 and it would also have been Dust 514 if it had been on pc, 1 hacker, 1 match could cost a player allot of ISK or ruin what would be otherwise a good game. At least on the console when i get owned, i can blame myself or concratz the otherguy on a shot well done, on PC i am constantly wondering "how the F....did he pull that shot off at 90 meters full auto?" But on here i have not had any sort of wtf moment whatsoever. Unless they can fix cheating on pc altogether, and this being my first console shooter since Wolfenstein 3D on the PC 20 years ago, i dont think ill be going back to the cheating infsted pc shooters. And the most advocate people on the forum saying there are no cheaters on the game ussually are the cheaters... So with that i think Dust has a leg up vs its cheating infested competition. Quote: PCs can't handle DUST 514. Even with 2 graphics cards, my computer would struggle with it. You would have to turn down the graphics and lower the player count. Maybe down the road when PCs catch up with PS3, but by then PS4 will be out. My PC's graphics card runs circles around my PS3....
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2013.01.28 19:12:00 - [23] - Quote because they wanted to shoot themselves in the foot. they look down and said "hey, i think i could use a hole there" now they have a rather dead FPS on a console that will be replaced shortly.
Washlee UnReaL. 131	Posted - 2013.01.28 19:44:00 - [24] - Quote Wtf you want this on pc for you can play.with a MS&KB Kust get ypur pc tower and put it by your ps3 to generate the feeling of pc
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2013.01.28 19:47:00 - [25] - Quote Washlee wrote: Wtf you want this on pc for you can play.with a MS&KB Kust get ypur pc tower and put it by your ps3 to generate the feeling of pc maybe people don't feel like blowing the dollars on the abomination that is the PS4 when and if the game ever makes it there.
Cosorvin DUST University Ivy League 45	Posted - 2013.01.28 19:53:00 - [26] - Quote Ryanki wrote: so i searched a bit because im SURE this has been answered before, but I couldn't find it.. and also because i'm interested in seeing if any other info or opinions have developed over the time being. So I get why its not on xbox, but why isn't it on PC? why can't you play halo on pc? This is like the ps3 version of halo.
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2013.01.28 20:26:00 - [27] - Quote pc = too many hax

GM Hercules Game Masters C C P Alliance 335	Posted - 2013.01.28 20:59:00 - [28] - Quote Cleaning over here just a little... Is a very valid question; however don't troll or insult in this forum... Please take some time to check out the forum rules: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18206&find=unread Cheers.

Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 666	Posted - 2013.01.28 22:51:00 - [29] - Quote I find it difficult to believe that the OP has no sense of the history of DUST, or is unaware of the contentious nature of their question. Can the OP really be that privileged, spoiled, unaware, or helpless? I can't quite believe they are asking in good faith, since anyone with an internet connection can figure this out for themselves or can at least get the gist of the history of DUST 514 becoming a PS 3 exclusive. And any reasonable post pubescent person doesn't need to be given a personally delivered answer on these forums like a little child always asking"Why? Why? Why no PC?" Or has my patience just grown so thin over the last few months having encountered the "CCP fail so hard worst decision since Moses not put DUST on PC fail!" campaign that I am reacting to my own prejudice and bias and not giving the OP the chance they deserve? Perhaps their question was well intentioned after all, and if I have jumped to conclusions and misjudged your intent, please accept my heartfelt apologies. In any event, please take a moment to view the following video, wherein CCP provide as direct an answer as you are going to get: http://www.gamespot.com/dust-514/videos/dust-514-ps3-exclusivity-and-hardcore-level-interview-6397024/ And with about 900,000 new characters created for DUST 514 so far, I am really looking forward to the perhaps unique on this planet culture that CCPs decision to only release DUST 514 on PS 3 will bring about. Will this shotgun marriage prove to be a happy one, will it end in tears, or some wonderful combination of the two? In conclusion, I have never seen a valid or even plausible argument that shows DUST 514 would have an even slightly better chance of success on PC than PS 3. But I have seen some evidence that (from the initial spark, which I am assuming must have been a sort of epiphany that occurred almost a half a decade ago, and must have gone something like "I know! Let's make a console game!" madness, utter madness, to this very day) DUST 514 has its best shot at fulfilling its massive potential right here on the Playstation. But that is something of a side argument, and strays somewhat from the ontological thrust of this thread's original intent.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 200	Posted - 2013.01.28 22:55:00 - [30] - Quote CCP already has a game on PC so they want to open up there market share by introducing a whole new crowd to there products. Basiaclly smart business. Coca-cola doesn't produce any other regular colas.



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