Also, don't run towards us unless you got 3 plus teammates shooting as well (you act as bait).

there are many ways to avoid death by heavy, assist a heavy killing a heavy. break LOS and engage at range (which is a reason im sad to see the LAR getting a nerf, its one of the better balanced weapons in the game and the only weapon that can fill its roll until they allow us to add a scope to out AR's again.) but its this tactic of running straight at or standing in front of, that's gonna cause the HMG to get nerfed. making it useless in corp matches or matches involving people that don't suck at the game.

When face to face (10-25 meters) with a heavy the wrong thing to do is stand still like a sh*t sipping ret*rd. I rarely die to heavy's on my Assault. Not because they cant kill me but because i don't enable their ability to do so easily. This has too change or they will needlessly break the HMG. (Mind you it was better when it was higher damage with more spread. It certainly made for better balance at range.)

The problem with heavies is not suit but the range of the hmg. It can compete with an AR, which is plain stupid. There will always be stupid players that make something looks better than it actually is. That being said, the hmg still needs a Range nerf! Take about 1/3 of its range and it would be balance

33% isn't much zitro when you can extend out 40% by skill. which i have not yet even bothered with past HMG range 2 (10%).

And yes, i do not disagree. As i stated above from your quite i preferred the weapon when it was CQC superior (we just got a -20% damage nerf) and had to attack at range by volume. (currently we have a spread buff of ~10%. that cuts our cone down + or - 10% which in turn makes the cone hit about 20% more often at range because its easier to predict the path of the round.) i would like to see the damage returned and spread increased. HMG's were good before the chromosome build.

That is a very accurate observation. A class shouldent get nerfed because other people suck at playing the game

The problem with heavies is not suit but the range of the assault hmg. It can compete with an AR, which is plain stupid. There will always be stupid players that make something looks better than it actually is. That being said, the hmg still needs a Range nerf! Take about 1/3 of its range and it would be balance

The problem with heavies is not suit but the range of the hmg. It can compete with an AR, which is plain stupid. There will always be stupid players that make something looks better than it actually is. That being said, the hmg still needs a Range nerf! Take about 1/3 of its range and it would be balance

The problem with heavies is not suit but the range of the hmg. It can compete with an AR, which is plain stupid. There will always be stupid players that make something looks better than it actually is. That being said, the hmg still needs a Range nerf! Take about 1/3 of its range and it would be balance

If it isn't much take the nerf they we will go from there

I would happily take the "range" Nerf if they return base damage to 19.2 on proto (+2) and give the Gaston 22.2. (+3)(24.1 from last build was admittedly a bit much.) However what i think you consider range is actually cone of fire. in which case that needs to be loosened up, to accommodate what it is your asking for. Making us partially mid-long range viable by volume not accuracy.

In this game females run away from me. Heavy feels

The problem with heavies is not suit but the range of the hmg. It can compete with an AR, which is plain stupid. There will always be stupid players that make something looks better than it actually is. That being said, the hmg still needs a Range nerf! Take about 1/3 of its range and it would be balance

QQ much? Had to high jack the thread to whine.

Only if you enable a Skill that lets the Heavy turn on bullet magnets for anyone facing them up to 1000 meters. Let a Sniper tag them and from then on any Heavy/HMG can shoot into the air. The bullets will rain down on the magnetized target. Double WP for both Kill and Sniper get +50 Spotted Kill Assist.

That is a very accurate observation. A class shouldent get nerfed because other people suck at playing the game

CCP are you listening?????

When face to face (10-25 meters) with a heavy the wrong thing to do is stand still like a sh*t sipping ret*rd. I rarely die to heavy's on my Assault. Not because they cant kill me but because i don't enable their ability to do so easily. This has too change or they will needlessly break the HMG. (Mind you it was better when it was higher damage with more spread. It certainly made for better balance at range.)

33% isn't much zitro when you can extend out 40% by skill. which i have not yet even bothered with past HMG range 2 (10%).

And yes, i do not disagree. As i stated above from your quite i preferred the weapon when it was CQC superior (we just got a -20% damage nerf) and had to attack at range by volume. (currently we have a spread buff of ~10%. that cuts our cone down + or - 10% which in turn makes the cone hit about 20% more often at range because its easier to predict the path of the round.) i would like to see the damage returned and spread increased. HMG's were good before the chromosome build.

when did the damage nerf happen?

Also, don't run towards us unless you got 3 plus teammates shooting as well (you act as bait).

I can down a heavy on my own. What are you talking about?

When face to face (10-25 meters) with a heavy the wrong thing to do is stand still like a sh*t sipping ret*rd. I rarely die to heavy's on my Assault. Not because they cant kill me but because i don't enable their ability to do so easily. This has too change or they will needlessly break the HMG. (Mind you it was better when it was higher damage with more spread. It certainly made for better balance at range.)

Assault rifles are way to powerful, the hmg shoots a larger bullet and does more damage.
And aren't as inaccurate as you think people.

A assault rifle is no accurate at all on fully auto and that's why the American gov. doesn't have fully automatic assault rifles.
Only burst.

Assault rifles are way to powerful, the hmg shoots a larger bullet and does more damage.
And aren't as inaccurate as you think people.

A assault rifle is no accurate at all on fully auto and that's why the American gov. doesn't have fully automatic assault rifles.
Only burst.

that's the problem when devs over listen to noobs who suck at the game and most likely will move along to the next game they always think is going to be the game they finally dont suck at, until they get owned in that one, have it nerfed, before moving on again to the next while everyone else is made to suffer with a watered down version of a game because noob cried about it and devs these days are focused on retaining these ppl which is fail in the end you can't please them because there's never enough nerfs in place in their mind.

it's funny when HMG heavies try fighting a blaster LAV. The LAV always wins unless it's driven/gunned by blueberries.

I would also like to see the range drop considerably (not as in a wider cone of bullets, but the range at which bullets can injure a target).


HMG's are beyond ridiculous right now, not sure why CCP decided to give the laser a nerf hammer when HMG's, MD's and blasters are so horribly broken in terms of balance.

I would also like to see the range drop considerably (not as in a wider cone of bullets, but the range at which bullets can injure a target).


HMG's are beyond ridiculous right now, not sure why CCP decided to give the laser a nerf hammer when HMG's, MD's and blasters are so horribly broken in terms of balance.