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Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 92	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:32:00 - [1] - Quote I dont know about you guys, but yesterday i played against a lot of people whom i perceived to be part of the new influx that came in after the open beta release. In my dealings with them i found that they had this weird sort of reaction when i started to shoot at them, this reactions well...... they just stand still and start shooting back. No "juking" no "strafing" no jumping or running, just standing still and taking it. Has anyone else encountered this new disease? how do you think its spreading? (because surely none of our veterans taught them that) whats the best way to cure it? is it catching on to you? i need some answers here people, because this is going to be a serious problem in the future if we dont fix it now!
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:33:00 - [2] - Quote Marston VC wrote: I dont know about you guys, but yesterday i played against a lot of people whom i perceived to be part of the new influx that came in after the open beta release. In my dealings with them i found that they had this weird sort of reaction when i started to shoot at them, this reactions well...... they just stand still and start shooting back. No "juking" no "strafing" no jumping or running, just standing still and taking it. Has anyone else encountered this new disease? how do you think its spreading? (because surely none of our veterans taught them that) whats the best way to cure it? is it catching on to you? i need some answers here people, because this is going to be a serious problem in the future if we dont fix it now! I've seen it tons and posted on it on 3 different threads. Best cure - bullets and explosives.
Shadow Katana The Royal Assassin's 5	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:38:00 - [3] - Quote not a disease its call aiming they're acutally using FPS instinct where standing still give you the best accuracy and its true they're not use to the typical Run and gun / Spray and pray of the Dust world
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:41:00 - [4] - Quote Shadow Katana wrote: not a disease its call aiming they're acutally using FPS instinct where standing still give you the best accuracy and its true they're not use to the typical Run and gun / Spray and pray of the Dust world name a game that standing still in front of someone is wise.
SILENTSAM 69 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 421	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:41:00 - [5] - Quote I have seen this, and it is funny to watch. In any FPS game its a sure way to get killed a lot. I was watching a buddy snipe and when he shot at a running target it would stop and stand there and wait for him to kill them.
coldfire reborn ZionTCD Legacy Rising 63	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:42:00 - [6] - Quote time to call in the hazmat teams wth HMGs and mow tham down befor it gets out and if you make any form of contat go see a nerby hazmat team thay can help you sry abut mis-spelling just got up
Illuminaughty-696 Omega Risk Control Services 203	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:47:00 - [7] - Quote Yeah, noticed it, too. They'll learn. I've watched enough people evolve as DUST players. names that I once thought of as easy kills making me work for it and even becoming threats that I respect enough to use hit and run tactics against to avoid becoming an easy kill myself. Open beta - fun times.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1593	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:52:00 - [8] - Quote Usually I try to run away from bullets. The only time you'll find me standing still while being shot at is when I respawn in front of you.
Goat of Dover Shadow Company HQ 161	Posted - 2013.01.24 21:00:00 - [9] - Quote I love it because my direct hit % with my MD has sky rocketed due to this disease. First one is usually a splash but they don't run from it they stop and just take the second and sometimes a third.
Enkidu Camuel Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 69	Posted - 2013.01.24 21:01:00 - [10] - Quote The same happened to me yesterday while I was using my Laser Rifle... they just stand still while I fry them and they even have another syndrome... crouch! yes they crouch... I have no idea why they were doing that, I was hoping more from the new guys cuz the normal behavior when someone is shooting at you is "Fck I need some cover!" and not "Oh... pretty lights!" Enkidu Camuel - Laser Rifle - New player amazed by the pretty lights*

Purple Lipton Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 33	Posted - 2013.01.24 21:03:00 - [11] - Quote Its not just the new ones that do this....
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2013.01.24 21:05:00 - [12] - Quote Shadow Katana wrote: not a disease its call aiming they're acutally using FPS instinct where standing still give you the best accuracy and its true they're not use to the typical Run and gun / Spray and pray of the Dust world i dont see the relation tho they come from cod and BF where running and juking is the norm the only FPS i seen where you stand still and form a firing line is world war 2 online for PC which i highly doubt they've ever played
Vane Arcadia ZionTCD Legacy Rising 115	Posted - 2013.01.24 21:12:00 - [13] - Quote Marston VC wrote: I dont know about you guys, but yesterday i played against a lot of people whom i perceived to be part of the new influx that came in after the open beta release. In my dealings with them i found that they had this weird sort of reaction when i started to shoot at them, this reactions well...... they just stand still and start shooting back. No "juking" no "strafing" no jumping or running, just standing still and taking it. Has anyone else encountered this new disease? how do you think its spreading? (because surely none of our veterans taught them that) whats the best way to cure it? is it catching on to you? i need some answers here people, because this is going to be a serious problem in the future if we dont fix it now! Sometimes they crouch too - because standing still just isn't enough.
Goat of Dover Shadow Company HQ 161	Posted - 2013.01.24 21:16:00 - [14] - Quote Enkidu Camuel wrote: "Oh... pretty lights!" I have actually had this problem in a game before. In the original Budakias. You would be dukin it out and then someone would pull out a charge hit and, the only thing that would go through peoples minds was pretty lights. Literally we all know pretty light punch or kick means that it is unblockable and does more damage but, we all still just stood there and got hit it was weird. We played these games for years and the problem never went away it was hilarious and still is today.
fahrenheitM Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 212	Posted - 2013.01.24 21:18:00 - [15] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: name a game that standing still in front of someone is wise. Frogger.
Boyz Miller Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 2	Posted - 2013.01.24 21:19:00 - [16] - Quote OK, So I am one of these folks ... I am trying. I have played Eve for 10 years. Generally, I don't like the Eve combat PVP, so I avoid it. I have a PS3. So I loaded up Dust. Bought the PS3 for my kid. I never play it. So, I played Dust last night. I had fun. I sucked, but I had fun. It is very Eve like in its mechanics. My nephew and my boys have the other two character slots. They play FPS games all the time. They absolutely love it. My nephew, who is in his twenties loves both the combat and complexity the game offers. I wish it were available on the PC platform (everyone has one), I am not buying 3 more PS3s so we can play together.
La Fortune Terranauts 36	Posted - 2013.01.24 21:39:00 - [17] - Quote I think it was Unreal Tournament and Counter Strike which taught me the cons of standing still, although I find it pretty hard to aim accurately and move at the same time with the PS pad, it's just too damn small. I'm hoping the controller friction tuning which was cut from this build will be in the next one or I'll have to buy a 360 imitation pad or plug in my mouse each time.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.24 22:03:00 - [18] - Quote Boyz Miller wrote: OK, So I am one of these folks ... I am trying. I have played Eve for 10 years. Generally, I don't like the Eve combat PVP, so I avoid it. I have a PS3. So I loaded up Dust. Bought the PS3 for my kid. I never play it. So, I played Dust last night. I had fun. I sucked, but I had fun. It is very Eve like in its mechanics. My nephew and my boys have the other two character slots. They play FPS games all the time. They absolutely love it. My nephew, who is in his twenties loves both the combat and complexity the game offers. I wish it were available on the PC platform (everyone has one), I am not buying 3 more PS3s so we can play together. have the boys make their own accounts (one each) so they can benefit from passive SP as well as the pewpew
Reimus Klinsman BetaMax. 320	Posted - 2013.01.24 22:27:00 - [19] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Shadow Katana wrote: not a disease its call aiming they're acutally using FPS instinct where standing still give you the best accuracy and its true they're not use to the typical Run and gun / Spray and pray of the Dust world name a game that standing still in front of someone is wise. Pattycake
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.24 22:29:00 - [20] - Quote Reimus Klinsman wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Shadow Katana wrote: not a disease its call aiming they're acutally using FPS instinct where standing still give you the best accuracy and its true they're not use to the typical Run and gun / Spray and pray of the Dust world name a game that standing still in front of someone is wise. Pattycake I admit complete and total defeat in face of your overwhelming example.

Ranger SnakeBlood OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 126	Posted - 2013.01.24 23:24:00 - [21] - Quote In games like ARMA and Battlefield the less you move the less barrel wobble you have and hip fire is a spray and pray tactic not primary firing position like in dust(I still hate hip fire in this its too easy to hit with as far as iam concerned hip fire is to lazy to aim so you should be penalized), as it is now chances are they are not used to the games mechanics limitations of what you can actually do. Basicly standing still is the way to be most accurate in game they are used to they are focusing on hitting you therefore if they are not familiar with dusts movment system they dont realise they should hip fire and strafe at much longer ranges then they would be used to hell i know ive been there when i joined, In case people see that as a lack of gun game or epic fail see it from their veiw they are using a tactic that works elsewhere standing still in ads other wise known as firing position is a stable firing platform far superior to moving side to side while doing same thing in both reality and in games like Battlefield, i can see one of two thing happening people coming onto forums to have movement have more effect on aim or people starting to move more when being shot at depending on the mentality of individual either addapt to a foreign mechanic or lets make it more like game of origins
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 288	Posted - 2013.01.25 12:01:00 - [22] - Quote Yeah, one thing this game has in common with COD is the insta-kill mechanic. Even a proto player with tons of armor and shields can be dropped near instantly with a militia rifle if they stand still. However, what most new players fail to realize, is that some people can insta-kill from a lot further away than they can. I find that most beginner snipers do this, they just sit there thinking they can take you out faster, which if in medium-range or closer, is a horrible mistake. Anytime I see a player not moving, is a near 100% chance of success in terms of killing them practically instantly (granted I am actually aiming halfway decent that night ).
Enkidu Camuel Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 69	Posted - 2013.01.25 12:24:00 - [23] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: Yeah, one thing this game has in common with COD is the insta-kill mechanic. Even a proto player with tons of armor and shields can be dropped near instantly with a militia rifle if they stand still. However, what most new players fail to realize, is that some people can insta-kill from a lot further away than they can. I find that most beginner snipers do this, they just sit there thinking they can take you out faster, which if in medium-range or closer, is a horrible mistake. Anytime I see a player not moving, is a near 100% chance of success in terms of killing them practically instantly (granted I am actually aiming halfway decent that night ). In a nutshell: Keep moving or die. XD
Vane Arcadia ZionTCD Legacy Rising 115	Posted - 2013.01.25 12:50:00 - [24] - Quote Boyz Miller wrote: OK, So I am one of these folks ... I am trying. I have played Eve for 10 years. Generally, I don't like the Eve combat PVP, so I avoid it. I have a PS3. So I loaded up Dust. Bought the PS3 for my kid. I never play it. So, I played Dust last night. I had fun. I sucked, but I had fun. It is very Eve like in its mechanics. My nephew and my boys have the other two character slots. They play FPS games all the time. They absolutely love it. My nephew, who is in his twenties loves both the combat and complexity the game offers. I wish it were available on the PC platform (everyone has one), I am not buying 3 more PS3s so we can play together. I was same - keyboard and mouse changed my game.
Blue Buggs L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2013.01.25 13:16:00 - [25] - Quote I thought they were just bowing down to us vets
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 288	Posted - 2013.01.25 13:23:00 - [26] - Quote Enkidu Camuel wrote: In a nutshell: Keep moving or die. XD Pretty much, I find if I gain temporary ADHD while playing Dust, I can do fairly well. Quite a bit of caffeine and alcohol usually do the trick
SoTa PoP Clone Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 60	Posted - 2013.01.25 13:54:00 - [27] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: Enkidu Camuel wrote: In a nutshell: Keep moving or die. XD Pretty much, I find if I gain temporary ADHD while playing Dust, I can do fairly well. Quite a bit of caffeine and alcohol usually do the trick I think we've been heard. Instead of standing still they now run at me with my HMG blazing.
Razekial Flameclaw ZionTCD Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2013.01.25 14:08:00 - [28] - Quote Look at it as a free kill, i'm new to Dust but even i dont stand still although i learnt rather quickly dont play with HMG head on in the epic world of a former rogue from Vanilla Warcraft - Rogues Do it from Behind - or in my case medics :D
SoTa PoP Clone Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 60	Posted - 2013.01.25 14:12:00 - [29] - Quote Razekial Flameclaw wrote: Look at it as a free kill, i'm new to Dust but even i dont stand still although i learnt rather quickly dont play with HMG head on in the epic world of a former rogue from Vanilla Warcraft - Rogues Do it from Behind - or in my case medics :D Good ol' days when rogues would perma stun you and the only counter was a BM hunter. Basically HMG's are the hunters and everyone else is the mage is how dust works.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 317	Posted - 2013.01.25 14:15:00 - [30] - Quote This is standard for most FPS games. There are alot of people who crouch shoot for the additional accuracy not realizing that movement and having shots miss you is more important that gettng as much accuracy as you can out of your gun. If you accurate shots are missing me then what does it matter?

SUGAR-BOO-BOO Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.01.25 14:58:00 - [31] - Quote I do this all the time. Let me let you all in on the joke: I'm not really playing. I'm just joining battles to accrue ISK and SP. If I happen to look up and see someone about to kill me, I might lob a grenade at them. IF not, oh well....
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 92	Posted - 2013.01.26 18:50:00 - [32] - Quote PEOPLE DIE WHEN THEY ARE KILLED
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2013.01.26 19:04:00 - [33] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Shadow Katana wrote: not a disease its call aiming they're acutally using FPS instinct where standing still give you the best accuracy and its true they're not use to the typical Run and gun / Spray and pray of the Dust world name a game that standing still in front of someone is wise. How about the game of not dying?? 'Nam minefield. ,Nam punji stick field. IED and someone has a deadman trigger. Or a walk in Irak, Iran, etc and you hear CLICK!! then its very wise to stay perfectly still and hope an EOD tech is on the way??
Kovak Therim ZionTCD Legacy Rising 158	Posted - 2013.01.26 19:05:00 - [34] - Quote Enkidu Camuel wrote: The same happened to me yesterday while I was using my Laser Rifle... they just stand still while I fry them and they even have another syndrome... crouch! yes they crouch... I have no idea why they were doing that, I was hoping more from the new guys cuz the normal behavior when someone is shooting at you is "Fck I need some cover!" and not "Oh... pretty lights!" Enkidu Camuel - Laser Rifle - New player amazed by the pretty lights* I did that a few times because I was used to triangle being the weapon switch button in games like BF:BC2. It took me awhile to get over it.
Jotun Hiem Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 412	Posted - 2013.01.26 19:06:00 - [35] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: How about the game of not dying?? 'Nam minefield. ,Nam punji stick field. IED and someone has a deadman trigger. Or a walk in Irak, Iran, etc and you hear CLICK!! then its very wise to stay perfectly still and hope an EOD tech is on the way?? I believe he said '*games.' And also said 'standing in front of someone*'
G Torq ALTA B2O 88	Posted - 2013.01.26 19:36:00 - [36] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Shadow Katana wrote: not a disease its call aiming they're acutally using FPS instinct where standing still give you the best accuracy and its true they're not use to the typical Run and gun / Spray and pray of the Dust world name a game that standing still in front of someone is wise. Coming from Resistance 2 Co-Op (loved it), Mass Effect 1 and Borderlands 1+2 Co-Op, having to actually dodge stuff is strange. E.g. in Mass Effect 1 (single player) all you need to do is run at the enemies firing your shotgun, and they go away before you take any significant damage. In R2, you just crouch behind the soldier's shield, or you drop one yourself (who didn't love having an Auger), and you're good. Unfortunately, it it seems that in competitive FPSes, the mechanics from single-player and Co-Op doesn't translate very well...
Mofo Mankey SIK NATION RISE of LEGION 5	Posted - 2013.01.26 19:40:00 - [37] - Quote At least you don't run into people that just sleep and shoot...
Razekial Flameclaw ZionTCD Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2013.01.28 09:37:00 - [38] - Quote SoTa PoP Clone wrote: Razekial Flameclaw wrote: Look at it as a free kill, i'm new to Dust but even i dont stand still although i learnt rather quickly dont play with HMG head on in the epic world of a former rogue from Vanilla Warcraft - Rogues Do it from Behind - or in my case medics :D Good ol' days when rogues would perma stun you and the only counter was a BM hunter. <3
birdog's duster Nevec Task Force Orbis Imperialis 13	Posted - 2013.01.28 09:42:00 - [39] - Quote SILENTSAM 69 wrote: I have seen this, and it is funny to watch. In any FPS game its a sure way to get killed a lot. I was watching a buddy snipe and when he shot at a running target it would stop and stand there and wait for him to kill them. I love it when they stop and do a 360 before deciding to move off. I always let them move again before finishing them off, I like to keep my eye in for moving targets.
new hulk ZionTCD Legacy Rising 49	Posted - 2013.01.28 09:51:00 - [40] - Quote Enkidu Camuel wrote: The same happened to me yesterday while I was using my Laser Rifle... they just stand still while I fry them and they even have another syndrome... crouch! yes they crouch... I have no idea why they were doing that, I was hoping more from the new guys cuz the normal behavior when someone is shooting at you is "Fck I need some cover!" and not "Oh... pretty lights!" Enkidu Camuel - Laser Rifle - New player amazed by the pretty lights* It's called trying to drop shot. lol cod tactics.

Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 444	Posted - 2013.01.28 10:00:00 - [41] - Quote Marston VC wrote: I dont know about you guys, but yesterday i played against a lot of people whom i perceived to be part of the new influx that came in after the open beta release. In my dealings with them i found that they had this weird sort of reaction when i started to shoot at them, this reactions well...... they just stand still and start shooting back. No "juking" no "strafing" no jumping or running, just standing still and taking it. Has anyone else encountered this new disease? how do you think its spreading? (because surely none of our veterans taught them that) whats the best way to cure it? is it catching on to you? i need some answers here people, because this is going to be a serious problem in the future if we dont fix it now! Hehehe, I love it when I'm in my alts tank and they form a circle around me and just stand there not moving and shoot me with AR's from 5 feet away. I've never seen anything like it, I just sit there and take it until I feel so bad that putting them outta their misery seems like the only right thing to do.
Revy Overdrive Doomheim 0	Posted - 2013.01.28 10:03:00 - [42] - Quote I love the guys that when under fire kneel for more accuracy...
Xavier Calyxes Calyxes Academy Calyxes 5	Posted - 2013.01.28 10:43:00 - [43] - Quote Revy Overdrive wrote: I love the guys that when under fire kneel for more accuracy... Thats my signature move
Mitsuko'Souma Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2013.01.29 06:08:00 - [44] - Quote It's because all of the people who are actually good at FPS can afford to buy better games. No selfrespecting gamer is going to invest time into playing something as bad as this. What you're likely encountering is little kids.
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2013.01.29 06:12:00 - [45] - Quote Marston VC wrote: I dont know about you guys, but yesterday i played against a lot of people whom i perceived to be part of the new influx that came in after the open beta release. In my dealings with them i found that they had this weird sort of reaction when i started to shoot at them, this reactions well...... they just stand still and start shooting back. No "juking" no "strafing" no jumping or running, just standing still and taking it. Has anyone else encountered this new disease? how do you think its spreading? (because surely none of our veterans taught them that) whats the best way to cure it? is it catching on to you? i need some answers here people, because this is going to be a serious problem in the future if we dont fix it now! i belive it's called CoD syndrome
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2013.01.29 06:12:00 - [46] - Quote Revy Overdrive wrote: I love the guys that when under fire kneel for more accuracy... as a heavy, that's actually quite effective
Toyis Winknife Ametat Security Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.01.29 06:17:00 - [47] - Quote they are used to the 3 hit kill of cod games and are to shocked to move when they dont kill you within 1sec of seeing you.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.29 06:25:00 - [48] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: Revy Overdrive wrote: I love the guys that when under fire kneel for more accuracy... as a heavy, that's actually quite effective Damn - was bout to say kneeling with HMG makes it even more beast :)


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