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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:06:00 -
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Allright im done with morons on my team which main purpose is to die 20 times in a row and making my team loose. We need team/corp deployment now to get rid of those obstacles also known as "blueberrys". Every other game allows you to fill a whole team. Be it MAG, COD or even Homefront. I dont know why we dont have this yet. Another thing is that 4 man squads are crap simply because when you intend to run a fully manned tank then one guy is allways left over. And personally i felt bad for that 4th guy cause i had to leave him with terrible blueberrys. This is not acceptable. Oh yeah sure now the n00bs will say "oh but TDC team deployment will ruin the experience for the others". The others? What other players? Those morons who die 20 times in a row? What would change for them? In the end they die 20 times in a row regardless if its a fully deployed team or not. This would give corps a meaning outside of corp matches which are crap due to the 8 man cap. My suggestion for the blueberrys would be to create another game mode for them on the battlefinder. 2 additional options to chose: Skirmish (solo entry) Ambush (solo entry) If you deploy a squad/corp then you have to enter regular skirmish/ambush and are not allowed to enter the solo entry matches. Similar to the mercenary playlist on COD. Yes ive sayd it CCP should addept this from COD to make crap players happy til they implemented PVE against drones. If you support this idea then "like it". I addepted this like concept from the vote on SP cap.
edit: after you "liked" the post please leave a comment on this topic to keep it active. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:15:00 -
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this is actually a good idea
having gamemodes for "pre made squads only" so that we can have a higher level of competitive gameplay and more teamwork |
Kamiya Musume
Suffer Inc.
63
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:17:00 -
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Corp Matches? No? Not heard about them?
if you don't like blueberries; stay out of pub matches. |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
265
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:23:00 -
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Kamiya Musume wrote:Corp Matches? No? Not heard about them?
if you don't like blueberries; stay out of pub matches.
I heard sp is nice in this game. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:27:00 -
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Kamiya Musume wrote:Corp Matches? No? Not heard about them?
if you don't like blueberries; stay out of pub matches. NO sp or isk earnings on corp matches have you heard about them? |
Kamiya Musume
Suffer Inc.
63
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:30:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Kamiya Musume wrote:Corp Matches? No? Not heard about them?
if you don't like blueberries; stay out of pub matches. NO sp or isk earnings on corp matches have you heard about them?
so what? things will change... it's a beta, remember?
too many entitled people think they can "Demand" what they want, this is not how the world works, get over yourselves. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:32:00 -
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ive put a solution for solo players in my post so please dont spam this topic. Thanks for your attention. |
Grimmiers
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:34:00 -
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6 man squads are apparently coming. Maybe that will be just enough to turn the tides. I really think there should be a training mode and mics should be on by default. It's almost like some third party is telling them to have it off because of some ESRB ratings restriction. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:35:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:ive put a solution for solo players in my post so please dont spam this topic. Thanks for your attention. Ill be SPAMing your topic |
SCAT mania
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
76
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:37:00 -
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Kamiya Musume wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Kamiya Musume wrote:Corp Matches? No? Not heard about them?
if you don't like blueberries; stay out of pub matches. NO sp or isk earnings on corp matches have you heard about them? so what? things will change... it's a beta, remember? too many entitled people think they can "Demand" what they want, this is not how the world works, get over yourselves. exactly it's a beta.. and we are the beta testers and we give suggestions on changes of the game which will improve gameplay experience.. tired of these post? then get off the forums |
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NAV HIV
The Generals
151
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:39:00 -
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+ 1 |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
165
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:41:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Allright im done with morons on my team which main purpose is to die 20 times in a row and making my team loose. We need team/corp deployment now to get rid of those obstacles also known as "blueberrys". Every other game allows you to fill a whole team. Be it MAG, COD or even Homefront. I dont know why we dont have this yet. Another thing is that 4 man squads are crap simply because when you intend to run a fully manned tank then one guy is allways left over. And personally i felt bad for that 4th guy cause i had to leave him with terrible blueberrys. This is not acceptable. Oh yeah sure now the n00bs will say "oh but TDC team deployment will ruin the experience for the others". The others? What other players? Those morons who die 20 times in a row? What would change for them? In the end they die 20 times in a row regardless if its a fully deployed team or not. This would give corps a meaning outside of corp matches which are crap due to the 8 man cap. My suggestion for the blueberrys would be to create another game mode for them on the battlefinder. 2 additional options to chose: Skirmish (solo entry) Ambush (solo entry) If you deploy a squad/corp then you have to enter regular skirmish/ambush and are not allowed to enter the solo entry matches. Similar to the mercenary playlist on COD. Yes ive sayd it CCP should addept this from COD to make crap players happy til they implemented PVE against drones. If you support this idea then "like it". I addepted this like concept from the vote on SP cap.
TL;DR but I suppose you are just farming likes. Liked since you sound lonely over uvt |
sargeant mike wolfe
Doomheim
6
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:42:00 -
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And wile were at it lets increase the squad member for deployments. |
Kamiya Musume
Suffer Inc.
63
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:42:00 -
[14] - Quote
SCAT mania wrote:Kamiya Musume wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Kamiya Musume wrote:Corp Matches? No? Not heard about them?
if you don't like blueberries; stay out of pub matches. NO sp or isk earnings on corp matches have you heard about them? so what? things will change... it's a beta, remember? too many entitled people think they can "Demand" what they want, this is not how the world works, get over yourselves. exactly it's a beta.. and we are the beta testers and we give suggestions on changes of the game which will improve gameplay experience.. tired of these post? then get off the forums
there was no suggestion in the OP, only a demand, based entirely on selfish needs. you just lost the game. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:57:00 -
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whats wrong with a demand i offered solo entry matches. |
Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
140
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Posted - 2013.01.24 14:59:00 -
[16] - Quote
C'mon you didnt expect this? How about not running a tank and actually trying to get yourself on the ground and get people moving in the right direction?
A decent well balanced squad of four will be able to turn the tide of any skirmish, less so for ambush but its not completely impossible.
I was fully prepared to have 3KDR and still lose the match, why? Because no one knows whats going on, were two days into the open BETA, it's really pretty simple.
And then you want to be able to field a full team of 8 against a bunch of complete nublets? Seriously thats the worse idea you've had in a while.
Man up, share tips, tell people there horrible and why. Dont go and whine about loosing when you could be doing more yourself to help out. |
Sontie
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
95
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Posted - 2013.01.24 15:02:00 -
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This is how you leave feedback
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=37174&find=unread |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
907
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Posted - 2013.01.24 15:05:00 -
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I think having a way to deploy an entire team at once into something other than corp battles is a fantastic idea. |
NORIC verIV
DUST University Ivy League
34
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Posted - 2013.01.24 15:15:00 -
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I disagree with this idea but ill have to wait till later to explain since im on my phone. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.24 15:22:00 -
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im aswell refering to the new trailer: "You dont need to join a army, you can make one." Then i want to be aible to aswell lead my army into a match. And a army is not just a 4 man squad CCP. |
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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2013.01.24 15:30:00 -
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I may hate blueberries as much as the next guy but i'm not really for having full corp deploy in pub matches. Mag suffered a lot from that and scared away a lot of new players.
Let's not forget that today's blueberries are the trained soldiers of tomorrow. |
Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
140
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Posted - 2013.01.24 15:34:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:im aswell refering to the new trailer: "You dont need to join a army, you can make one." Then i want to be aible to aswell lead my army into a match. And a army is not just a 4 man squad CCP.
These are your own assumptions buddy, they never said the pick up and play aspect of the game was going to be about building "your army" and norr should it be. We have the tools in place to run full squads of 8 if we wish. plus the mention of bigger squads down the road has basically been accepted as fact.
If you are really concerned about losing then play corp battles or balance your squad so its not four assault suits. I dont think ive ever seen a SI member running a Logi suit.
Adapt or die as they say. |
stormtroopin
Cygnus Tactical Operations
51
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Posted - 2013.01.24 15:41:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:The dark cloud wrote:im aswell refering to the new trailer: "You dont need to join a army, you can make one." Then i want to be aible to aswell lead my army into a match. And a army is not just a 4 man squad CCP. These are your own assumptions buddy, they never said the pick up and play aspect of the game was going to be about building "your army" and norr should it be. We have the tools in place to run full squads of 8 if we wish. plus the mention of bigger squads down the road has basically been accepted as fact. If you are really concerned about losing then play corp battles or balance your squad so its not four assault suits. I dont think ive ever seen a SI member running a Logi suit.Adapt or die as they say. ^^ yup I play in a CORP of only three and led a team of berries to wins over and over. Balance your squad. And if three people are jumping in a tank and leaving the fourth squadie out to roam the map with the other berries you're not doing yourselves any favors..
but either way, larger squad sizes are apparently coming one day. |
Corbina Ninja
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
77
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Posted - 2013.01.24 15:43:00 -
[24] - Quote
maybe possible in low sec public battles with rewards sp npc's ISK increased compared to high sec to reward the risk of meeting a full team deployment the FW does not reward the corps ... it's just a bet -_- |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
229
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Posted - 2013.01.24 16:01:00 -
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+1 "a malincuore" |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:39:00 -
[26] - Quote
bump |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
433
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:46:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Kamiya Musume wrote:Corp Matches? No? Not heard about them?
if you don't like blueberries; stay out of pub matches. I heard sp is nice in this game.
so is more than 16 players
%70 of the contracts we accept are put up by a single player who has his corp named after himself and then leaves when 8 of us show up
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
154
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:56:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:The dark cloud wrote:im aswell refering to the new trailer: "You dont need to join a army, you can make one." Then i want to be aible to aswell lead my army into a match. And a army is not just a 4 man squad CCP. These are your own assumptions buddy, they never said the pick up and play aspect of the game was going to be about building "your army" and norr should it be. We have the tools in place to run full squads of 8 if we wish. plus the mention of bigger squads down the road has basically been accepted as fact. If you are really concerned about losing then play corp battles or balance your squad so its not four assault suits. I dont think ive ever seen a SI member running a Logi suit. Adapt or die as they say.
My corp is allied with SI, so although I'm not in Seraphim, I've been running with some of their guys recently in a Logi suit. So when you see me on the field next time, consider that I'm with SI.
@OP - I have mixed feelings about the suggestion, mostly because, as I've mentioned, I am not directly affiliated with SI, and our corp is so small now that we don't even run corp battles. However, it makes sense, since, if there are such options, lone wolfs will stay in solo matches, while large groups will duke it out between themselves. This actually might be even a better idea than simply linking squads, because when such team invade pub matches, there will be a huge possibility of scaring people away.
All in all, personally I'm fine with the current system... I've been noticing that a well-balanced squad that earns a lot of WP on foot can easily lead the team to victory. I've lost only one battle while running in a SI squad, and even managed to drop two OBs in a match when being a leader. But of course, larger squads would be greatly appreciated.
BTW, it's really great running with members of Seraphim Initiative. |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
95
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:47:00 -
[29] - Quote
I am in favor for larger squads.
At the very least it would be nice to have 8 man groups.
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J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2013.01.24 23:13:00 -
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With open beta here we really should get the mercenary queue that disallows full teams, then have anything goes in the other matches...
And the "split the playerbase" argument is just stupid here, id in OPEN BETA we don't have enough players to do this, then when will we have enough players for both low and nullsec???
Not to mention, corp battles already split people... |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2013.01.24 23:24:00 -
[31] - Quote
lolpubs |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2013.01.24 23:27:00 -
[32] - Quote
J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:With open beta here we really should get the mercenary queue that disallows full teams, then have anything goes in the other matches...
And the "split the playerbase" argument is just stupid here, id in OPEN BETA we don't have enough players to do this, then when will we have enough players for both low and nullsec???
Not to mention, corp battles already split people...
no one can corp battle 24/7 but they can pub 24/7 try some corp battles u'd like it. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
289
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Posted - 2013.01.24 23:38:00 -
[33] - Quote
I like this idea, and have supported it in every online game I play. There always should be a 'mercenary' type of mode for people who want to go solo, and then another mode for those that want to squad up.
I have been doing a lot of soloing lately, I've had dozens of chances each night to play with corp players (there is a constant flow of RF1/RF2 in the various corp/chat channels) but sometimes I just want to run on my own and not have to care about anybody other than myself. It's sometimes quite difficult to get even teams, every so often I always seem to end up as the only name-brand corp player on one side vs many other corps that are squad up, and they are players that I know are quite good. So if I stay, I know I will get dominated and lose many suits. Not my idea of fun.
So while it is possible to end up on unbalanced teams with a solo only mode, it definitely lessens the chances by a huge degree. |
Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
334
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Posted - 2013.01.24 23:43:00 -
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WHY?! WHY CAN I NOT LIKE MORE THAN ONCE?!?!?!?!
There is absolutely nothing wrong with this idea. and the "solo deploy" would appear to solve all arguments. If you're a blueball and you can't stand the thought of grouping up with friends and getting redlined because all your friends go 0-15 as well, then maybe you and your friends should stay in a chat with a UVT, and just q separately.
How is it fair that you can choose to solo queue into my game with my friends and make us loose, but it's not fair that we should be able to queue into a game with a full team, or several full squads, and go up against other people who enjoy playing with friends, and having a much better chance to win?
Corp matches are fun, for sure. But in corp matches, at least for now, you gain absolutely nothing except ISK, which is, lets be honest, not exactly hard to come by. In pub matches, we get to earn SP and gear. So why should team players be restricted to playing with their corp, in corp on corp matches.
I am positive there is no logical reason this should not be a feature. |
Frontline Medic
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.01.25 00:49:00 -
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what would the droppods be uesd for then? this anit cod.
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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.25 02:19:00 -
[36] - Quote
J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:With open beta here we really should get the mercenary queue that disallows full teams, then have anything goes in the other matches...
And the "split the playerbase" argument is just stupid here, id in OPEN BETA we don't have enough players to do this, then when will we have enough players for both low and nullsec???
Not to mention, corp battles already split people... How do corp battles split the playerbase? Corp matches are fun but not interesting for a dust merc simply cause you get no SP/ISK so its not really appealing to me. Another factor is that the current corp matches are limited to 8 man teams which is stupid. Alot of corps can pull off full teams which we saw on the tourny. And those 32 man matches are epic. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2013.01.25 10:04:00 -
[37] - Quote
Pretty 50/50 on this. Deploying a full team will result in a very boring redline game. But having the solo modes is a good plan for newbs/no mics. |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.25 10:58:00 -
[38] - Quote
Agreed I think those who disagree, probably just want to padd themselves against the 0-20 newbs While I enjoy this I would much rather have seperate deployment methods and I agree the solo deploy is a good idea but I know people will just Qsync so the can ROFL TROLL newbs |
Darko Dragneel
Doomheim
4
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:15:00 -
[39] - Quote
Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Guinevere Bravo wrote:The dark cloud wrote:im aswell refering to the new trailer: "You dont need to join a army, you can make one." Then i want to be aible to aswell lead my army into a match. And a army is not just a 4 man squad CCP. These are your own assumptions buddy, they never said the pick up and play aspect of the game was going to be about building "your army" and norr should it be. We have the tools in place to run full squads of 8 if we wish. plus the mention of bigger squads down the road has basically been accepted as fact. If you are really concerned about losing then play corp battles or balance your squad so its not four assault suits. I dont think ive ever seen a SI member running a Logi suit. Adapt or die as they say. My corp is allied with SI, so although I'm not in Seraphim, I've been running with some of their guys recently in a Logi suit. So when you see me on the field next time, consider that I'm with SI. @OP - I have mixed feelings about the suggestion, mostly because, as I've mentioned, I am not directly affiliated with SI, and our corp is so small now that we don't even run corp battles. However, it makes sense, since, if there are such options, lone wolfs will stay in solo matches, while large groups will duke it out between themselves. This actually might be even a better idea than simply linking squads, because when such team invade pub matches, there will be a huge possibility of scaring people away. All in all, personally I'm fine with the current system... I've been noticing that a well-balanced squad that earns a lot of WP on foot can easily lead the team to victory. I've lost only one battle while running in a SI squad, and even managed to drop two OBs in a match when being a leader. But of course, larger squads would be greatly appreciated. BTW, it's really great running with members of Seraphim Initiative. Yo Nex! glad to see you around |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
283
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:27:00 -
[40] - Quote
CCP are still testing server load afaik.
Seems like they'll sort out other stuff later. |
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Sergeant Wiznowski
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
38
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Posted - 2013.01.25 12:00:00 -
[41] - Quote
Yes to 16 vs 16 or more corp matches.
As for Team deployment it is really bad idea unless it will be treated as a private virtual match - no SP no ISK maybe no dropsuits lost.
"Other" shooters shown that such a funcionality is a bad thing for a general player base and good thing for cheaters. PUB games are called PUB for a reason.
So while your squad is doing 90% of work it's getting 90% of warpoints and kills. If we have 4 corp squads on even level in a pub match you will get less than playing solo and already boring match will be even worse. Redlining is not fun and not a challenge. |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
235
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Posted - 2013.01.25 12:01:00 -
[42] - Quote
Kamiya Musume wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Kamiya Musume wrote:Corp Matches? No? Not heard about them?
if you don't like blueberries; stay out of pub matches. NO sp or isk earnings on corp matches have you heard about them? so what? things will change... it's a beta, remember? too many entitled people think they can "Demand" what they want, this is not how the world works, get over yourselves.
Thats exactly how the world works. That and force. Force is good too. And guess what if enough people demand something its a consensus or loud enough that people have to respond just so they can stop the screaming.
Did I just educate you on how squeaky wheel democracy works? |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.25 13:43:00 -
[43] - Quote
iceyburnz wrote:CCP are still testing server load afaik.
Seems like they'll sort out other stuff later. i hope so. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2013.01.25 14:48:00 -
[44] - Quote
Kamiya Musume wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Kamiya Musume wrote:Corp Matches? No? Not heard about them?
if you don't like blueberries; stay out of pub matches. NO sp or isk earnings on corp matches have you heard about them? so what? things will change... it's a beta, remember? too many entitled people think they can "Demand" what they want, this is not how the world works, get over yourselves.
And too many people think this rule means that nobody can ask for anything ever.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
151
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Posted - 2013.01.25 16:32:00 -
[45] - Quote
Chunky Munkey wrote:Kamiya Musume wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Kamiya Musume wrote:Corp Matches? No? Not heard about them?
if you don't like blueberries; stay out of pub matches. NO sp or isk earnings on corp matches have you heard about them? so what? things will change... it's a beta, remember? too many entitled people think they can "Demand" what they want, this is not how the world works, get over yourselves. And too many people think this rule means that nobody can ask for anything ever.
+1 |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2013.01.25 16:52:00 -
[46] - Quote
I have a couple of things to say.
Firstly, I gave a like to the OP, because I want full team deployment to come sooner rather than later - but I don't think it's reasonable (or necessary) to DEMAND it. Just keep the pressure up to let them know we want it to happen. Also worth mentioning, my own corp/friend group is significantly smaller than a full team, so when going against a group from one of the larger corps, having this option would be a liability for me, personally. But it would still be a benefit to enough players that I ant to see it happen.
Secondly, replying to this:
The dark cloud wrote:Every other game allows you to fill a whole team. Be it MAG, COD or even Homefront. You should really keep in mind that several COD games and many other FPS games spend a large portion of their beta without proper matchmaking and without the ability to form a team. Assassin's Creed: Revelations shipped without the ability to put a group together and actually have any confidence that you'll end up on the same team. Transformers: Fall of Cybertron frequently glitches out and splits up grouped players across both teams instead of keeping them together. MAG (one of your examples) shipped WITHOUT any option for team deployment, that was a much later addition to the game.
DUST is still in beta. I'm hoping (actually expecting) that there will be team deploy options implemented before the final release of the game. It's a core part of what people want out of the game, and it would be kind of stupid to leave out. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2013.01.25 17:08:00 -
[47] - Quote
Dunno man. I mean a lot of the time I think it'd just be the Corps like Imps, PFB, ourselves and a couple of other groups trying to stomp on another while everyone else is in their own solo matches not willing to come near us all :(
Corp Battles need fixing so we can actually have some good matches instead of 8v8 (what **** is that?) |
Morathi III
Rebelles A Quebec
57
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Posted - 2013.01.25 17:57:00 -
[48] - Quote
Kamiya Musume wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Kamiya Musume wrote:Corp Matches? No? Not heard about them?
if you don't like blueberries; stay out of pub matches. NO sp or isk earnings on corp matches have you heard about them? so what? things will change... it's a beta, remember? too many entitled people think they can "Demand" what they want, this is not how the world works, get over yourselves. Best post ever! Thanks for this Kamiya |
56 truth
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:12:00 -
[49] - Quote
The dark cloud wrote:im aswell refering to the new trailer: "You dont need to join a army, you can make one." Then i want to be aible to aswell lead my army into a match. And a army is not just a 4 man squad CCP. then skill up in corp management and wait as the move from sisi to tq was like what few weeks ago we (ccp and us beta testers) are see if we can or cant break tq a long witn other things save for demands for the feed back channel and dont demand like a kid people wount take your with a straight face... |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:35:00 -
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yeah right the feedback section. When you make a topic there it dissapears to the 6th page within 15 mins cause every moron thinks he can "request" everything. A demand turns on more attention and obviously im not the only one who wants this feature implemented. I just speak out that what serious players think. Main problems at the moment for masive social gaming: -4 man squads which are way to small -no option to team up with more then 1 squad (except the luck based Q-syncing) -16 man corp matches which are just stupid as hell (should be 32 like on the tourny) -not beeing aible to form squads extreme fast by inviting people from chatrooms -no solo entry playlist where teams/squads are disaibled (for lonewolf players)
Si has most of the time more then 12 players online (except late in the night) and im fed up that i cant use valuable corperation members on the same team (except squads). Which leads to the infamous blueberrys where it is a gamble if they are capable or not. As it is now every match is a 50/50 chance of losing or winning a match cause incapable players ruin my win/loss ratio. And with that they have a influence on the corperation win/loss ratio which i cant accept. Corps on eve will mainly be looked at their win/loss ratio and thats the main factor to get hired or not. Im sorry for people who are unable to realise this. If you want to gamble with your win/loss ratio then you can still join the solo entry only matches and pretend teamwork is a nonfactor. This is aswell a way to see if you can get along with a allied corperation or not. Seeing how the mixed team behaves in public matches is a good way to test it. And dont forget that there would be aswell other fully deployed teams with a high chance to encounter a other fully manned team. If you deny my demand then you are just one of those blueberrys who have more deaths then kills. |
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NAV HIV
The Generals
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Posted - 2013.01.25 20:05:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:yeah right the feedback section. When you make a topic there it dissapears to the 6th page within 15 mins cause every moron thinks he can "request" everything. A demand turns on more attention and obviously im not the only one who wants this feature implemented. I just speak out that what serious players think. Main problems at the moment for masive social gaming: -4 man squads which are way to small -no option to team up with more then 1 squad (except the luck based Q-syncing) -16 man corp matches which are just stupid as hell (should be 32 like on the tourny) -not beeing aible to form squads extreme fast by inviting people from chatrooms -no solo entry playlist where teams/squads are disaibled (for lonewolf players)
Si has most of the time more then 12 players online (except late in the night) and im fed up that i cant use valuable corperation members on the same team (except squads). Which leads to the infamous blueberrys where it is a gamble if they are capable or not. As it is now every match is a 50/50 chance of losing or winning a match cause incapable players ruin my win/loss ratio. And with that they have a influence on the corperation win/loss ratio which i cant accept. Corps on eve will mainly be looked at their win/loss ratio and thats the main factor to get hired or not. Im sorry for people who are unable to realise this. If you want to gamble with your win/loss ratio then you can still join the solo entry only matches and pretend teamwork is a nonfactor. This is aswell a way to see if you can get along with a allied corperation or not. Seeing how the mixed team behaves in public matches is a good way to test it. And dont forget that there would be aswell other fully deployed teams with a high chance to encounter a other fully manned team. If you deny my demand then you are just one of those blueberrys who have more deaths then kills.
I feel the pain. They said they have something in progress. With the stats involved, couldn't agree more. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2013.01.25 20:47:00 -
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It's still the same as MAG. No one played Sabotage with a full 32 unless it was a clan war. It was too easy. 1 squad of "game changers" is all it usually takes to win vs randoms. A really solid enemy squad can change that for sure, but then it's just a 4v4 battle really (rest of players subpar due to gear/sp/skill). Corp matches are there for exactly this kind of thing, but as people have already stated, 8v8 isn't enough.
Roll on 48-64 player games :) Then there might be a good reason to group squads or something. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
154
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Posted - 2013.01.26 12:30:00 -
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Darko Dragneel wrote:Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Guinevere Bravo wrote:The dark cloud wrote:im aswell refering to the new trailer: "You dont need to join a army, you can make one." Then i want to be aible to aswell lead my army into a match. And a army is not just a 4 man squad CCP. These are your own assumptions buddy, they never said the pick up and play aspect of the game was going to be about building "your army" and norr should it be. We have the tools in place to run full squads of 8 if we wish. plus the mention of bigger squads down the road has basically been accepted as fact. If you are really concerned about losing then play corp battles or balance your squad so its not four assault suits. I dont think ive ever seen a SI member running a Logi suit. Adapt or die as they say. My corp is allied with SI, so although I'm not in Seraphim, I've been running with some of their guys recently in a Logi suit. So when you see me on the field next time, consider that I'm with SI. @OP - I have mixed feelings about the suggestion, mostly because, as I've mentioned, I am not directly affiliated with SI, and our corp is so small now that we don't even run corp battles. However, it makes sense, since, if there are such options, lone wolfs will stay in solo matches, while large groups will duke it out between themselves. This actually might be even a better idea than simply linking squads, because when such team invade pub matches, there will be a huge possibility of scaring people away. All in all, personally I'm fine with the current system... I've been noticing that a well-balanced squad that earns a lot of WP on foot can easily lead the team to victory. I've lost only one battle while running in a SI squad, and even managed to drop two OBs in a match when being a leader. But of course, larger squads would be greatly appreciated. BTW, it's really great running with members of Seraphim Initiative. Yo Nex! glad to see you around
Thanks, Darky! Been running with your guys for almost a week now, great impressions, and a lot of ISK. Are you playing these days or not yet?
On topic: ^Tony is most certainly right, I've witnessed it many times. And only when there is another balanced squad on the other end, then battles usually turn into close calls. Personally, I feel like lone wolfs that queue into group matches will be very confident about their skill.
However, I see your point that a full team will most likely decimate several separate squads that have no organization as a team. So I propose to add a third mode here - Team Mode - where your linked four squads will be pitted against other four linked squads. Such team cannot enter any other modes, nor can separate squads enter this mode. Pretty much corp battles with 16vs16, SP rewards, maybe lesser ISK rewards, and a random corp to fight against. |
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GM Unicorn
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.26 14:19:00 -
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Moved to feeback :) |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.01.26 14:29:00 -
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I want this, but it should be restricted out of highsec (matchmaking public matches). |
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