When I think of all the reasons not to go open beta, people like you remind me of why it is truly necessary. You closed minded EVE people foul up this game content with your skewed views of what an FPS platform game should be. I for one and very glad its on PS3, if only to remind you that you are far from superior and lower than the 'douches' you condemn.

The problem is, is that it IS a lobby shooter.

Your actions have no impact on EvE at present.

You cannot own anything. You cannot control anything. There's no indication about how these issues will be resolved in future either.

You just respond to a contract, get in a lobby, play a technically poor FPS.

We keep reading about these features but they aren't here and have NO impact whatsoever on the core mechanics. How can people not see that the core game-play has to be spectacular first? It's a half baked proposition right now and it's getting ready to move into open beta (how far is that from actual release people?).

Why are you making excuses for the games current state based on things that may or may not be added?

Do you honestly, hand on heart, believe that FPS players are going to be as forgiving? Do you honestly think that EvE integration matters a jot to people? Do seriously think that a huge number of players are going to drop Battlefield, CoD, Halo or any of those top tier games to play a game with the technical and game-play issues that Dust has.

Honestly? I'm not being facetious.

Every single person I play with (all of them fairly involved gamers who play nothing but online FPS) think Dust is a complete disaster. Read around on various gaming forums (where you can find any kind of buzz). The majority think it's a crock of ****.

You mean the Cell with 8 SPU's. But is just pure speculation, the official specs are yet to be unveiled.

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Explain to me how in any way, this game (when you are in battle) is any more complex than Battlefield 3. I'm talking purely about the mechanics now (movement, shooting, animations, frame-rate).

While it is still 'speculation' per se...it has been frequently reported that the latest development kit PS4s (Orbis) are, in fact sporting an 8 core processor....an AMD A10, to be more specific! (I personally hoped for Intel i-5 but, what are you gonna do?) The cell processor that was used in the PS3 evidently turned out to be more hassle than it was worth, seeing as 3rd party developers clearly weren't up to the task of working with such a hi-tech device. As evidenced by the slew of 3rd party games that turned to **** once ported to the PS3. It's a real shame IMO...the PS3 cell processor showed such promise!

As for Dust being ported to PS4 (Orbis)...I would venture to guess that most of the work being done at this point in time is being done for the PS4 (Orbis). Certainly it would seem a waste of energy to still be focusing 100% resources on PS3 development at this point in time. I'm pretty sure that the next gen console will be hitting the market this holiday season (2013)...at least most sources I've followed seem fairly confident with a 2013 release.

Most definitely Dust isn't being planned to fall to the wayside with the PS3 on it's way out. It would be a huge mistake to be planning a game of this scale for PS3 exclusively. It would mean that all of this work is being done with the intention of killing the game in less than a year's time....Not going to happen.

The Cell Broadband Processor has two-way multi-threaded PowerPC core and eight Synergistic Processing Elements (SPE) and are not cores in any sense of the word. There are only six available and they are a small, fast SIMD, FPU with minimal RAM, multiple DMA access to memory and have a very significant limit on the tasks they are able to perform. One is locked down for security control (encryption/decryption) and one is blocked to raise yields.

The PS4 is rumored to be using a standard x86-64 8 core processor that will feature at least 4 full FPU units (if it sticks to AMD's latest effort to reduce semiconductor area) or, hopefully, with 8 full featured processors and as much memory as a modern smart phone.

The two processors have nothing in common. The Cell is an end of life (EOL) product and development stopped a number of years ago. Moving to a traditional processor (including PowerPC) was their only option. Sony does not have a couple spare billion dollars lying around nor yet another three years to waste.

The UnReal Engine is a reasonable choice to enable fast porting. Virtually nothing will have to be redone except to reset the development environment. When the Sony exclusive contract runs out than a simple tweak will give a PC version. A somewhat larger amount of work will be necessary to do a proper port it to PC but not a huge effort as KB/M are already supported. CCP already understands PC game development so that shouldn't be a major concern for them or us.

ugh my head hurts just thinking about how much that would cost.

ugh my head hurts just thinking about how much that would cost.

This I honestly believe is the other reason why builds are so slow to come out lately, they used to be on clock work until the news the orbis dev ktis where shipped.

An Abrams in real life wouldn't die to a smoke grenade launcher as they do in battlefield is a wonderful start.

That's a massive load of horse-**** and you know it.

nice cop out.

Can we get back to the wild and hopeful speculation. I want to read more about peoples awful ideas on how this needs to be another half assed cookie cutter shooter.

I wished I could. All I know is that there is a development plan for dust 514 for 3 years. This is rather short because they didn't want to spend too much time on something they're experimenting with.

Future Features we are expecting though or where in some way suggested to us being explored.

-All four factions fully represented and themed well. This includes suits, vehicles, skill books and weapons. So things like Gallente Heavy, Minmatar MCCs and Amarrian Tanks.

-All planet types will be in the sandbox, Barren, Oceanic, Ice, Gas, Storm, Plasma, Magma with Temperate.

-Dozens of new gun types to fit every races theme for an answer to a situation. For example an extremely heavy 'lancer' for ammarrians to melt tanks in half. Or A minmatar trench gun that akin to shotguns we use today.

-Arena Game types where people viewing the matches can place their bets and rules can be set up (ie no protogear, no vehicles)

-PVE interations to include Drones infestations, Sansha incursions, and other pirates.

-Additional Game types for high sec 'training' like capture the core and escort.

- New Vehicle types such as gunships, mtacs, speeders, apcs, fighters, and mccs themselves.

- Market Industy and Science.

-Alliances, Diplomacy and War.

-Empire Building.

This list goes on an on, but the fact remains we not going to see a quater of these things at launch, and we be lucky to get about half of them in 3 years time.

But guess what? in 3 years call of duty will still not have a market, will still not have research and industry, will not have alliance mechanics, free roaming zones, nor persistent results of battle. They literally haven't changed in 10 years of games what makes you think they would suddenly mmo?