What war barge? EVE did away with most npc crap early on, DUST should too. OBs should be from player ships only, not a made up war barge. Or does it come from an invisible pink unicorn shooting rainbows out its butt? With that said OBs should totally be multicolored and touched up with some sparkles and glitter. Hell, rain down some pixies while your at it. They'll magically heal all troops on the battlefield.

What war barge? EVE did away with most npc crap early on, DUST should too. OBs should be from player ships only, not a made up war barge. Or does it come from an invisible pink unicorn shooting rainbows out its butt? With that said OBs should totally be multicolored and touched up with some sparkles and glitter. Hell, rain down some pixies while your at it. They'll magically heal all troops on the battlefield.

Orbital strikes are one of the best parts of this game... When you hear the trumpet sound and see the beams start spinning it either gives you a feeling of "oh **** run" or "YEAH GET'EM!!" Perfect in my opinion... Shouldn't have time to run from them they would be pointless a squad with 2500 wp is deserving of the power to take out AT LEAST a expensive tank with an orbital... just my opinion though.

We're still in beta, and most EVE players are dubious as to what possible reason they should give a crap about supporting us, so the standard OB is a placeholder mechanic. Once we start getting regular orbital support, the OBs will be even more nightmarish, because EVE warship guns hit harder than the NPC warbarge guns.

A LOT harder.

What war barge? EVE did away with most npc crap early on, DUST should too. OBs should be from player ships only, not a made up war barge. Or does it come from an invisible pink unicorn shooting rainbows out its butt? With that said OBs should totally be multicolored and touched up with some sparkles and glitter. Hell, rain down some pixies while your at it. They'll magically heal all troops on the battlefield.

I hope in endgame that there will be someone actually piloting the war barge and dropping off soldiers/installations.

Okay, here's a question: Do they exist in new eden space and vulnerable to attack?

Just like the npc ran market in 2003, I believe this system should and will be replaced.

So I want to start a real thread about this. Here are my thoughts from the first topic which was locked indefinitely:



As someone who has lost several well-built tanks to OBs, I don't like being torched by magically placed beams of destruction with imaginary points.

I wouldn't be annoyed if I at least knew the OB came from an EVE ship hanging in orbit 100% of the times I get striked. A little effort and coordination to match what I put into driving tanks.

Right now they seem over used and unrealistic. They literally appear from nowhere, come from nothing, and destroy everything. Gay.

Just wait until they start letting caps OB.

We're talking wiping out divisions of tanks with those.

Shells from an XL gun are larger than some tanks.

Sure....doubt many high sec corps are going to buy their own warbarges. But, if you have pub matches. And there will be pub matches. Who supplies the warbarge for the strikes?

Dust already supports the functions you are insisting are nonexistent.

You need to be participating in corp battles/factional warfair, in witch (to my understanding, corecct me I am wrong) all OB's are player originated.

What you are suggesting isn't ever going to happen in pub matches, so get over it.

Your "real thread" doesn't seem very realistic to me, not even in the slightest.

Well then, lets hope public matches are removed. Right now they're a necessary evil to acquire sufficient sp and isk.

depends on the corp, it doesn't take much to fit a catalyst or another type of destroyer class ship with small guns.

i'm already printing hybrid ammunition for mine. and we had 8 in orbit for a corp battle. shame the enemy corp was a single player and we couldn't earn enough WP to get the ability to use it. we even ignored him and try to let him cap points but he just sat on the red line and sniped.

Except in that case you end up pushing people out of the game that may not be interested in joining a corp or getting into meaningful major fights.

depends on the corp, it doesn't take much to fit a catalyst or another type of destroyer class ship with small guns.

i'm already printing hybrid ammunition for mine. and we had 8 in orbit for a corp battle. shame the enemy corp was a single player and we couldn't earn enough WP to get the ability to use it. we even ignored him and try to let him cap points but he just sat on the red line and sniped.

Except he wants the warbarges player operated. That means manufacturing or buying one. Or having it so the player has access to the npc corps barge, which in the end would make no sense anyways.

I've seen tanks withstand orbitals plenty of times. HTFU.

ah sorry got the two confused. warbarges are the planet side ship not the one in space.

Nobody likes those players anyway. Random blues make the game unplayable half the time. I say good riddance.

I figure pub matches will decline once other types factor into gameplay and take over. Kinda like: "you still play pub matches? N00B"

Nobody likes those players anyway. Random blues make the game unplayable half the time. I say good riddance.

I figure pub matches will decline once other types factor into gameplay and take over. Kinda like: "you still play pub matches? N00B"

without NPC warbarges, DUST players are completely at the mercy of EVE players, both in terms of fire support and in terms of delivery to a tactical hotspot where we can actually have matches and fight.

This

Is

a

bad

idea.

There's a lot of morons in EVE who are actively wanting DUST to fail because it's not on the PC. Or because they don't want something other than internet spaceships to matter. Or because they're jerks.

There's a lot more who don't see any reason to give a crap about DUST, and thusly will not participate in assisting us in any way.

The few who care are mostly here in beta, and the ones remaining are not enough to insure that there will be good fights to be had for us. DUST will stagnate and die if we have to rely on Podpoppers to do anything.

While I would train warbarges, I think that corps with a warbarge pilot in orbit should get some pretty awesome boosts to their game, and the warbarge pilots be rewarded along with their ground forces for taking the risk of flying a ship that's about as optimized for space combat as a brick covered in sandpaper.

without NPC warbarges, DUST players are completely at the mercy of EVE players, both in terms of fire support and in terms of delivery to a tactical hotspot where we can actually have matches and fight.

This

Is

a

bad

idea.

There's a lot of morons in EVE who are actively wanting DUST to fail because it's not on the PC. Or because they don't want something other than internet spaceships to matter. Or because they're jerks.

There's a lot more who don't see any reason to give a crap about DUST, and thusly will not participate in assisting us in any way.

The few who care are mostly here in beta, and the ones remaining are not enough to insure that there will be good fights to be had for us. DUST will stagnate and die if we have to rely on Podpoppers to do anything.

While I would train warbarges, I think that corps with a warbarge pilot in orbit should get some pretty awesome boosts to their game, and the warbarge pilots be rewarded along with their ground forces for taking the risk of flying a ship that's about as optimized for space combat as a brick covered in sandpaper.

without NPC warbarges, DUST players are completely at the mercy of EVE players, both in terms of fire support and in terms of delivery to a tactical hotspot where we can actually have matches and fight.

This

Is

a

bad

idea.

There's a lot of morons in EVE who are actively wanting DUST to fail because it's not on the PC. Or because they don't want something other than internet spaceships to matter. Or because they're jerks.

There's a lot more who don't see any reason to give a crap about DUST, and thusly will not participate in assisting us in any way.

The few who care are mostly here in beta, and the ones remaining are not enough to insure that there will be good fights to be had for us. DUST will stagnate and die if we have to rely on Podpoppers to do anything.

While I would train warbarges, I think that corps with a warbarge pilot in orbit should get some pretty awesome boosts to their game, and the warbarge pilots be rewarded along with their ground forces for taking the risk of flying a ship that's about as optimized for space combat as a brick covered in sandpaper.

So how should tanks get blown up?

But but, the OBs are player based I don't get the resentment?

Boiling the entire thread down to this one statement.

'I hate having my tanks OHK'ed.'

So I want to start a real thread about this. Here are my thoughts from the first topic which was locked indefinitely:



As someone who has lost several well-built tanks to OBs, I don't like being torched by magically placed beams of destruction with imaginary points.

I wouldn't be annoyed if I at least knew the OB came from an EVE ship hanging in orbit 100% of the times I get striked. A little effort and coordination to match what I put into driving tanks.

Right now they seem over used and unrealistic. They literally appear from nowhere, come from nothing, and destroy everything. Gay.

I hate losing 55k ISK every time a tanker pulls a trigger on me. OB are fine. We need a way to retaliate against tankers who drive and shoot too well.

I think 'named', paid for with $$, and eventually proto AV takes care of that.
Kinda bugs me there's no $$ counter on vehicles. A little lopsided?

Would train my EVE pilot to do this in a heartbeat.

So I want to start a real thread about this. Here are my thoughts from the first topic which was locked indefinitely:

....
Gay.

That. Yeah, you lost all respect right there.

no sir, that was lost based on the quality of his post that got locked.

I get what you're trying to say, remove npc stuff and have it all player made. But, at least for now, npc stuff is needed. And I doubt you have a decent tank at the moment, it is literally impossible to have one.

Just to clarify, I am not the same person who posted the original thread that got locked.

I've played EVE since 2003. I know the meaning of loss and unfairness.
I simply desire the realism of getting shot at by something that's ACTUALLY there and not something that only has an interior and unlocateable externally. I'm all for using imagination but c'mon... It's stupid. This isn't a budget game or company, the means are available for things to make sense and be awesome.

I hope in endgame that there will be someone actually piloting the war barge and dropping off soldiers/installations.

What war barge? EVE did away with most npc crap early on, DUST should too. OBs should be from player ships only, not a made up war barge. Or does it come from an invisible pink unicorn shooting rainbows out its butt? With that said OBs should totally be multicolored and touched up with some sparkles and glitter. Hell, rain down some pixies while your at it. They'll magically heal all troops on the battlefield.

Q.Qing about your K/D ratio, how pathetic.

In my opinion I think it's fine. I'd think of it as more of an issue if it was easily spammed but as it is now doesn't a squad need to earn 3000 WP total for an OB? I keep hearing mixed things on that but seems it's around there. I mean it's effective enough that most people are probably going to save it for other uses anyway like clearing out open objectives so their team can walk in for an easy cap with using it on a tank as an option... but for that much WP, I think taking down a tank is pretty fair, at least for the lower tier/fit tanks.

I've yet to see many OBs land on tanks, I've only seen it a handful of times yet. Wanting to see how a well fit Sagaris handles it.