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Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.16 22:56:00 - [1] - Quote Explosions are overpowered. The U.N. needs to nerf artillery. On a more serious note: the idea that EVE ships can rain horror and death upon thee is ENTIRELY the point behind precision strikes. The warbarge strikes are weak. A tank can survive those. Not so much when an EVE Destroyer starts the gigglemurder fun task of firing antimatter or MASERs at you. This was a selling point for the whole game, Being able to call down the finger of God in the form of orbital bombardment is something people have been WANTING in DUST. And if my heavy suit with an assault Forge can melt your tank down for scrap, I'm fairly certain the amarr ship in orbit can melt your tank with his gigawatt laser with impunity.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.16 23:03:00 - [2] - Quote Purple Creeper wrote: What war barge? EVE did away with most npc crap early on, DUST should too. OBs should be from player ships only, not a made up war barge. Or does it come from an invisible pink unicorn shooting rainbows out its butt? With that said OBs should totally be multicolored and touched up with some sparkles and glitter. Hell, rain down some pixies while your at it. They'll magically heal all troops on the battlefield. We're still in beta, and most EVE players are dubious as to what possible reason they should give a crap about supporting us, so the standard OB is a placeholder mechanic. Once we start getting regular orbital support, the OBs will be even more nightmarish, because EVE warship guns hit harder than the NPC warbarge guns. A LOT harder.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.16 23:07:00 - [3] - Quote BetterHideGood wrote: Orbital strikes are one of the best parts of this game... When you hear the trumpet sound and see the beams start spinning it either gives you a feeling of "oh **** run" or "YEAH GET'EM!!" Perfect in my opinion... Shouldn't have time to run from them they would be pointless a squad with 2500 wp is deserving of the power to take out AT LEAST a expensive tank with an orbital... just my opinion though. You don't have nearly enough likes. Have one for that lovely explanation of that visceral feeling one gets when death rains from on high.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.16 23:10:00 - [4] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: I hope in endgame that there will be someone actually piloting the war barge and dropping off soldiers/installations. Would train my EVE pilot to do this in a heartbeat.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.16 23:15:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Just wait until they start letting caps OB. We're talking wiping out divisions of tanks with those. Shells from an XL gun are larger than some tanks. I have four words for you: Dreadnaught in Siege Mode. Also, it's possible that CCP might allow EVE pilots to drop replacement clone CRU units to keep you going, or simply drop turret installations, ans supply depots onto the field. perhaps drop tanks for an armored charge. The possibilities are endless. Plus if you work with EVE corps a lot losing a tank to an OB is going to seem like something unworthy of complaint. after all, your friends up above absolutely crap money to fund your career of death and destruction.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.16 23:28:00 - [6] - Quote Necrodermis wrote: Octavian Vetiver wrote: Sure....doubt many high sec corps are going to buy their own warbarges. But, if you have pub matches. And there will be pub matches. Who supplies the warbarge for the strikes? depends on the corp, it doesn't take much to fit a catalyst or another type of destroyer class ship with small guns. i'm already printing hybrid ammunition for mine. and we had 8 in orbit for a corp battle. shame the enemy corp was a single player and we couldn't earn enough WP to get the ability to use it. we even ignored him and try to let him cap points but he just sat on the red line and sniped. I already have 500,000 rounds of tactical hybrid S and 500,000 rounds of tactical EMP S prepped and ready in EVE just waiting for someone to offer me ISKies to contract and deliver death on behalf of their corp.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.16 23:38:00 - [7] - Quote without NPC warbarges, DUST players are completely at the mercy of EVE players, both in terms of fire support and in terms of delivery to a tactical hotspot where we can actually have matches and fight. This Is a bad idea. There's a lot of morons in EVE who are actively wanting DUST to fail because it's not on the PC. Or because they don't want something other than internet spaceships to matter. Or because they're jerks. There's a lot more who don't see any reason to give a crap about DUST, and thusly will not participate in assisting us in any way. The few who care are mostly here in beta, and the ones remaining are not enough to insure that there will be good fights to be had for us. DUST will stagnate and die if we have to rely on Podpoppers to do anything. While I would train warbarges, I think that corps with a warbarge pilot in orbit should get some pretty awesome boosts to their game, and the warbarge pilots be rewarded along with their ground forces for taking the risk of flying a ship that's about as optimized for space combat as a brick covered in sandpaper.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.16 23:53:00 - [8] - Quote no, I consider the the jerks to be a minority. I'm more concerned with the vast swathe of indifferent players. i want there to be hundreds of thousands of DUST players at any given time. there's not enough EVE players to cater to that in transport, but I think BONUSES should be given to corps that do actually field a barge over a district or planet. But making it entirely dependent on the good grace of EVE players is a fool's hope, because even the most enthusiastic bringers of war have their own interests they will pursue over helping us. So full dependence upon EVE capsuleers should be considered inadvisable. And people who do everything in hisec are pretty much not worth considering on the equation at this point.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.17 00:31:00 - [9] - Quote Tarken Genetic wrote: But but, the OBs are player based I don't get the resentment? he's griping about the NPC prbital bombardment from the warbarge. EVE player shots are called precision strikes.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.17 00:55:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Boiling the entire thread down to this one statement. 'I hate having my tanks OHK'ed.' I hate losing 55k ISK every time a tanker pulls a trigger on me. OB are fine. We need a way to retaliate against tankers who drive and shoot too well.

Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.17 01:14:00 - [11] - Quote Purple Creeper wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Boiling the entire thread down to this one statement. 'I hate having my tanks OHK'ed.' I hate losing 55k ISK every time a tanker pulls a trigger on me. OB are fine. We need a way to retaliate against tankers who drive and shoot too well. I think 'named', paid for with $$, and eventually proto AV takes care of that. Kinda bugs me there's no $$ counter on vehicles. A little lopsided? the fact that a militia heavy requires the loss of 5 dropsuits to kill a militia tank on average unless the tank driver is a moron. Now let's move up to the prototype heavy. I can pay for a few Rifters (500k attack frigates in EVE) with the amount of ISK I'd need to pay out in dropsuits in order to bring out enough firepower to kill a perfectly DPs'd and tanked marauder tank solo assuming i was trying to kill a smart tank pilot. Don't feed me that ISK risked Vs. Isk lost argument. Paying ISK is no guarantee of Niche protection in a CCP video game. if I kill you with a militia forge it means yer either driving a militia tank with militia modifications, or it means you did something REALLY REALLY dumb. If I godstrike you with an Orbital Bombardment to take your tank off the field consider it a compliment, because it means you REALLY REALLY pissed me off.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.17 02:46:00 - [12] - Quote Rayan Storm wrote: That. Yeah, you lost all respect right there. no sir, that was lost based on the quality of his post that got locked.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.17 03:15:00 - [13] - Quote Purple Creeper wrote: Just to clarify, I am not the same person who posted the original thread that got locked. I've played EVE since 2003. I know the meaning of loss and unfairness. I simply desire the realism of getting shot at by something that's ACTUALLY there and not something that only has an interior and unlocateable externally. I'm all for using imagination but c'mon... It's stupid. This isn't a budget game or company, the means are available for things to make sense and be awesome. wait for full integration. we're still in the natal stages of the game. let the baby get off the breastfeeding and into baby food before you start punishing him for not walking and potty training.

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