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Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.16 23:02:00 -
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Purple Creeper wrote:What war barge? EVE did away with most npc crap early on, DUST should too. OBs should be from player ships only, not a made up war barge. Or does it come from an invisible pink unicorn shooting rainbows out its butt? With that said OBs should totally be multicolored and touched up with some sparkles and glitter. Hell, rain down some pixies while your at it. They'll magically heal all troops on the battlefield.
The warbarge that's in orbit for each side on the battlefield. Ever notice how all the people you see on the barge prior to the start are blue and all on your teams list? Guess what, for the other side there is a barge in orbit that they're walking around in and seeing the sites. |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.16 23:08:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Purple Creeper wrote:What war barge? EVE did away with most npc crap early on, DUST should too. OBs should be from player ships only, not a made up war barge. Or does it come from an invisible pink unicorn shooting rainbows out its butt? With that said OBs should totally be multicolored and touched up with some sparkles and glitter. Hell, rain down some pixies while your at it. They'll magically heal all troops on the battlefield. We're still in beta, and most EVE players are dubious as to what possible reason they should give a crap about supporting us, so the standard OB is a placeholder mechanic. Once we start getting regular orbital support, the OBs will be even more nightmarish, because EVE warship guns hit harder than the NPC warbarge guns. A LOT harder.
It'll be real nice when or if dreadnaughts can be used. |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.16 23:12:00 -
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Purple Creeper wrote:Okay, here's a question: Do they exist in new eden space and vulnerable to attack?
Just like the npc ran market in 2003, I believe this system should and will be replaced.
Sure....doubt many high sec corps are going to buy their own warbarges. But, if you have pub matches. And there will be pub matches. Who supplies the warbarge for the strikes? Also, if someone does supply a warbarge for random public matches. You going to offer your services to keep that fleet of 6 to 8 random tornados from insta ganking that expensive warbarge of theirs?? |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.16 23:25:00 -
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Purple Creeper wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:Purple Creeper wrote:So I want to start a real thread about this. Here are my thoughts from the first topic which was locked indefinitely:
As someone who has lost several well-built tanks to OBs, I don't like being torched by magically placed beams of destruction with imaginary points.
I wouldn't be annoyed if I at least knew the OB came from an EVE ship hanging in orbit 100% of the times I get striked. A little effort and coordination to match what I put into driving tanks.
Right now they seem over used and unrealistic. They literally appear from nowhere, come from nothing, and destroy everything. Gay.
Purple Creeper wrote:What war barge? EVE did away with most npc crap early on, DUST should too. OBs should be from player ships only, not a made up war barge. Or does it come from an invisible pink unicorn shooting rainbows out its butt? With that said OBs should totally be multicolored and touched up with some sparkles and glitter. Hell, rain down some pixies while your at it. They'll magically heal all troops on the battlefield. Dust already supports the functions you are insisting are nonexistent. You need to be participating in corp battles/factional warfair, in witch (to my understanding, corecct me I am wrong) all OB's are player originated. What you are suggesting isn't ever going to happen in pub matches, so get over it. Your "real thread" doesn't seem very realistic to me, not even in the slightest. Well then, lets hope public matches are removed. Right now they're a necessary evil to acquire sufficient sp and isk.
Except in that case you end up pushing people out of the game that may not be interested in joining a corp or getting into meaningful major fights.
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Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.16 23:28:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:Octavian Vetiver wrote: Sure....doubt many high sec corps are going to buy their own warbarges. But, if you have pub matches. And there will be pub matches. Who supplies the warbarge for the strikes?
depends on the corp, it doesn't take much to fit a catalyst or another type of destroyer class ship with small guns. i'm already printing hybrid ammunition for mine. and we had 8 in orbit for a corp battle. shame the enemy corp was a single player and we couldn't earn enough WP to get the ability to use it. we even ignored him and try to let him cap points but he just sat on the red line and sniped.
Except he wants the warbarges player operated. That means manufacturing or buying one. Or having it so the player has access to the npc corps barge, which in the end would make no sense anyways. |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.16 23:37:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:Octavian Vetiver wrote: Except he wants the warbarges player operated. That means manufacturing or buying one. Or having it so the player has access to the npc corps barge, which in the end would make no sense anyways.
ah sorry got the two confused. warbarges are the planet side ship not the one in space.
That's the mobile control center, the warbarge is that ship in orbit everyone starts in before a fight. Also, where vehicles and all that are stored. Look to the right when you're in the war room . Right behind the team list screen next to some catwalks you'll see an RDV. |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.16 23:40:00 -
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Purple Creeper wrote:Nobody likes those players anyway. Random blues make the game unplayable half the time. I say good riddance.
I figure pub matches will decline once other types factor into gameplay and take over. Kinda like: "you still play pub matches? N00B"
We also don't want this being so niche that CCP goes into the hole . Shuts it down, and then proceeds to have to cut back EVE on top of it. |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.16 23:43:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:without NPC warbarges, DUST players are completely at the mercy of EVE players, both in terms of fire support and in terms of delivery to a tactical hotspot where we can actually have matches and fight.
This
Is
a
bad
idea.
There's a lot of morons in EVE who are actively wanting DUST to fail because it's not on the PC. Or because they don't want something other than internet spaceships to matter. Or because they're jerks.
There's a lot more who don't see any reason to give a crap about DUST, and thusly will not participate in assisting us in any way.
The few who care are mostly here in beta, and the ones remaining are not enough to insure that there will be good fights to be had for us. DUST will stagnate and die if we have to rely on Podpoppers to do anything.
While I would train warbarges, I think that corps with a warbarge pilot in orbit should get some pretty awesome boosts to their game, and the warbarge pilots be rewarded along with their ground forces for taking the risk of flying a ship that's about as optimized for space combat as a brick covered in sandpaper.
I'd train warbarges, but by all the names of every deity in the human race it better have the tank of a carrier at least....except that means DD would still turn it to scrap. |
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