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Mr Zitro
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:07:00 -
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Yes, why? Because the WARRIORS use it so it has to be broken |
GoD-NoVa
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:09:00 -
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lol i just think the maps are a problem they promote CQC so heavies are better in these situations CCP just needs to give us the large RUSH maps we want |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:11:00 -
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Then they will just murder taxi more. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:13:00 -
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Who are the WARRIORS?
Heavies are fine. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:13:00 -
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Heavy's are fine, maybe slightly OP or UP depending on who's using them. |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:13:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Yes, why? Because the WARRIORS use it so it has to be broken WHAT???? I don't call in trucks anymore because they ruined it. Now you're telling me I can't run a heavy anymore? They need to stop taking good things and using them in such a way that makes everyone else that uses that thing feel dirty.
Maybe they can spam Active Scanners? They still have those in the game, right? |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:17:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Who are the WARRIORS?
Heavies are fine. warriors are the ones that use the most exploitable equipment in the game.
i for one think heavies are fine, they take a huge amount of punishment while dealing it themselves. it's the HMG i have the problem with. there needs to be a warm up period before bullets are vomited out and turning speed when firing it needs to be slower.
tracking a scout suit should be impossible when a heavy is vomiting out ammunition |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:25:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:warriors are the ones that use the most exploitable equipment in the game.
i for one think heavies are fine, they take a huge amount of punishment while dealing it themselves. it's the HMG i have the problem with. there needs to be a warm up period before bullets are vomited out and turning speed when firing it needs to be slower.
tracking a scout suit should be impossible when a heavy is vomiting out ammunition
When a HMG starts to fire it is very inaccurate and as it fires it get more accurate and when using ADS the turning speed is drastically less. The benefit to ADS with the HMG is its cone of fire gets smaller.
Personally I struggle with scouts who know how to move. |
Mr Zitro
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:39:00 -
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Sorry guys but facts are facts, WARRIORS use the easiest classes possible. But much respect towards them :) |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:41:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Sorry guys but facts are facts, WARRIORS use the easiest classes possible. But much respect towards them :)
Says the guy who complains about Armor tanks, yet rolls nothing but |
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:41:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Sorry guys but facts are facts, WARRIORS use the easiest classes possible. But much respect towards them :)
I haven't seen a WARRIORS since codex are you sure they are still around? |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:58:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Sorry guys but facts are facts, WARRIORS use the easiest classes possible. But much respect towards them :) I haven't seen a WARRIORS since codex are you sure they are still around? We had a corp battle about a week after the wipe where four of them showed up, all in heavies. I know Zitro is trolling though. Heavies aren't OP. |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:59:00 -
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I've seen IceCreamKing and Lisa Michelle once in a public match a few weeks ago. It was quite a surprise. I think the majority of their members jumped ship due to all mass hatred for them. As for me, I've never had a problem with the WARRIORS. After all, it's not like they are the only ones to find an exploit and exploit it (grenade spam, instant supply depot heal/reload, etc); they were just more open about it than others. What's funny is if the WARRIORS weren't so open to showing they used the team heal exploit, it probably would of never been reported and fixed as it had been. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:04:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Sorry guys but facts are facts, WARRIORS use the easiest classes possible. But much respect towards them :) I haven't seen a WARRIORS since codex are you sure they are still around?
I was in a match with 5-6 of them yesterday, surprisingly the match ended a loss. |
Mr Zitro
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:18:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Sorry guys but facts are facts, WARRIORS use the easiest classes possible. But much respect towards them :) Says the guy who complains about Armor tanks, yet rolls nothing but Might want to read, I complain about the AV weapons being mainly anti armor but not worries heavies will get nerfed |
Mr Zitro
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:26:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Sorry guys but facts are facts, WARRIORS use the easiest classes possible. But much respect towards them :) I haven't seen a WARRIORS since codex are you sure they are still around? We had a corp battle about a week after the wipe where four of them showed up, all in heavies. I know Zitro is trolling though. Heavies aren't OP. Trolling no, stating facts that heavies are too easy yes just like how ARs and other op weapons were. So nerfing heavies is valid |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:46:00 -
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lol Mr. Z's daily show trip to the forums. Doesn't matter the topic you have a huge following. |
HowDidThatTaste
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:47:00 -
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Heavies need a buff.
The reason everyone notices the heavies right now is cause we have hit our sweet spots. As the build goes longer all the other suits have a hug advantage and ours stays flat.
We have one weapon choice and the ability to use one damage mod maybe two if you can Max out your CPU. While the higher suits for everyone else gives them, many more slots to use allowing mire damage/shield or armor mods.
The heavy suit then gets out paced at the top end for the rest of the time.
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Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:50:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Heavies need a buff.
The reason everyone notices the heavies right now is cause we have hit our sweet spots. As the build goes longer all the other suits have a hug advantage and ours stays flat.
We have one weapon choice and the ability to use one damage mod maybe two if you can Max out your CPU. While the higher suits for everyone else gives them, many more slots to use allowing mire damage/shield or armor mods.
The heavy suit then gets out paced at the top end for the rest of the time.
True. Right now heavies will be rolling over people because they're going to be more survivable for the time being. Once the Type-B's/Proto suits start rolling through on a regular basis it'll tone down. |
Stinker Butt
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:51:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Heavies need a buff.
The reason everyone notices the heavies right now is cause we have hit our sweet spots. As the build goes longer all the other suits have a hug advantage and ours stays flat.
We have one weapon choice and the ability to use one damage mod maybe two if you can Max out your CPU. While the higher suits for everyone else gives them, many more slots to use allowing mire damage/shield or armor mods.
The heavy suit then gets out paced at the top end for the rest of the time.
Agree, 100% |
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Tiel Syysch
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:52:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Heavies need a buff.
Says the fatty that everyone is already scared of. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:54:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:Heavies need a buff.
The reason everyone notices the heavies right now is cause we have hit our sweet spots. As the build goes longer all the other suits have a hug advantage and ours stays flat.
We have one weapon choice and the ability to use one damage mod maybe two if you can Max out your CPU. While the higher suits for everyone else gives them, many more slots to use allowing mire damage/shield or armor mods.
The heavy suit then gets out paced at the top end for the rest of the time.
True. Right now heavies will be rolling over people because they're going to be more survivable for the time being. Once the Type-B's/Proto suits start rolling through on a regular basis it'll tone down.
+1 this is correct. Heavies have a higher base for suits and HMGs. Then combine that with small maps, ******* aweful spawning mechanics, and iron sights only on AR's with damage nerf and you get this.
90% of deaths are to heavies or nades. so when in Rome |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:55:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Heavies need a buff.
The reason everyone notices the heavies right now is cause we have hit our sweet spots. As the build goes longer all the other suits have a hug advantage and ours stays flat.
We have one weapon choice and the ability to use one damage mod maybe two if you can Max out your CPU. While the higher suits for everyone else gives them, many more slots to use allowing mire damage/shield or armor mods.
The heavy suit then gets out paced at the top end for the rest of the time.
So basically, all buffs to heavies have to come later on down the pipe. We do NOT need low end buffs, because if you're dying more than a few times per match as a heavy right now, you're probably doing something wrong. I hear you though, that heavies get outpaced, especially when you take the cost into consideration.
Thankfully we've got a nice chunk of time before we'll really start seeing that, but still, it definitely needs looking into. |
Mr Zitro
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Posted - 2013.01.16 23:41:00 -
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Heavies don't want to be nerf. No one wants what they spec into nerfed but they are stronger and easier than any other infantry. So either buff weapons back to where the use to be or nerf heavies |
Wooden Pints
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.16 23:48:00 -
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Problem is 90% of poeple think they can just stand still or run towards heavys and kill them..... then die and complain. There are plenty of guys out there who just move behind cover throw a grenade run a little and kill the heavy from range unless the heavy has the sense not to chase.
Its all down to player skill a good assault will run circles and hardly ever be in the HMG "sweet spot" damage range and a bad one just stands still and shoots. Same with bad heavys they will stand in the open shooting across the map and wonder why they die to assaults all the time.
It will be a neverending story of complains between AR and Heavies calling a nerf on each other. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.01.16 23:50:00 -
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Wooden Pints wrote:Problem is 90% of poeple think they can just stand still or run towards heavys and kill them..... then die and complain. There are plenty of guys out there who just move behind cover throw a grenade run a little and kill the heavy from range unless the heavy has the sense not to chase.
Its all down to player skill a good assault will run circles and hardly ever be in the HMG "sweet spot" damage range and a bad one just stands still and shoots. Same with bad heavys they will stand in the open shooting across the map and wonder why they die to assaults all the time.
It will be a neverending story of complains between AR and Heavies calling a nerf on each other.
Cept the problem is you cant exactly run away from a heavy either. The HMG range is extremly long range and getting distance in poor cover zones is not going to happen. |
Mr Zitro
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Posted - 2013.01.17 00:03:00 -
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Wooden Pints wrote:Problem is 90% of poeple think they can just stand still or run towards heavys and kill them..... then die and complain. There are plenty of guys out there who just move behind cover throw a grenade run a little and kill the heavy from range unless the heavy has the sense not to chase.
Its all down to player skill a good assault will run circles and hardly ever be in the HMG "sweet spot" damage range and a bad one just stands still and shoots. Same with bad heavys they will stand in the open shooting across the map and wonder why they die to assaults all the time.
It will be a neverending story of complains between AR and Heavies calling a nerf on each other. Everything has a counter, that doesn't change the fact they need a nerf/weapons need a buff. Half this player base is more than stupid. That doesn't change how easy they are on small bunched up maps. TARs problem were the damage mods, missiles were just crazy, and heavies are the maps. The others got nerfed why shouldn't heavies? Just cause you use them |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
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Posted - 2013.01.17 00:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cept the problem is you cant exactly run away from a heavy either. The HMG range is extremly long range and getting distance in poor cover zones is not going to happen.
Extremely long range? Yeah my HMG always gets the snipers across the map...
There are many times I think I am in range with the HMG and get killed by a Militia AR because most my bullets will miss at range. |
High Commander' Rhnz
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.17 00:18:00 -
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LOL at heavies think their good at the game when they a need +800HP and a pray spray weapon by definition
HMG has +2000 RPM with 16-17 damage per shot; add that with a Instant hit mechanic system and you got one OP weapon on your hands... Oh I forgot to add that the weapon becomes more accurate the longer you fire. ^ BTW this is the definition of a unskilled weapon
If you don't have at least a 5.0 KDR with a heavy then your just bad |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.01.17 00:35:00 -
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High Commander' Rhnz wrote:LOL at heavies think their good at the game when they a need +800HP and a pray spray weapon by definition
HMG has +2000 RPM with 16-17 damage per shot; add that with a Instant hit mechanic system and you got one OP weapon on your hands... Oh I forgot to add that the weapon becomes more accurate the longer you fire. ^ BTW this is the definition of a unskilled weapon
If you don't have at least a 5.0 KDR with a heavy then your just bad
Post with your main. |
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