Yes, why? Because the WARRIORS use it so it has to be broken

Who are the WARRIORS?

Heavies are fine.

warriors are the ones that use the most exploitable equipment in the game.

i for one think heavies are fine, they take a huge amount of punishment while dealing it themselves. it's the HMG i have the problem with. there needs to be a warm up period before bullets are vomited out and turning speed when firing it needs to be slower.

tracking a scout suit should be impossible when a heavy is vomiting out ammunition

Sorry guys but facts are facts, WARRIORS use the easiest classes possible. But much respect towards them :)

Sorry guys but facts are facts, WARRIORS use the easiest classes possible. But much respect towards them :)

I haven't seen a WARRIORS since codex are you sure they are still around?

I haven't seen a WARRIORS since codex are you sure they are still around?

Says the guy who complains about Armor tanks, yet rolls nothing but

We had a corp battle about a week after the wipe where four of them showed up, all in heavies. I know Zitro is trolling though. Heavies aren't OP.

Heavies need a buff.

The reason everyone notices the heavies right now is cause we have hit our sweet spots. As the build goes longer all the other suits have a hug advantage and ours stays flat.

We have one weapon choice and the ability to use one damage mod maybe two if you can Max out your CPU. While the higher suits for everyone else gives them, many more slots to use allowing mire damage/shield or armor mods.


The heavy suit then gets out paced at the top end for the rest of the time.

Heavies need a buff.

The reason everyone notices the heavies right now is cause we have hit our sweet spots. As the build goes longer all the other suits have a hug advantage and ours stays flat.

We have one weapon choice and the ability to use one damage mod maybe two if you can Max out your CPU. While the higher suits for everyone else gives them, many more slots to use allowing mire damage/shield or armor mods.


The heavy suit then gets out paced at the top end for the rest of the time.

Heavies need a buff.

True. Right now heavies will be rolling over people because they're going to be more survivable for the time being. Once the Type-B's/Proto suits start rolling through on a regular basis it'll tone down.

Heavies need a buff.

The reason everyone notices the heavies right now is cause we have hit our sweet spots. As the build goes longer all the other suits have a hug advantage and ours stays flat.

We have one weapon choice and the ability to use one damage mod maybe two if you can Max out your CPU. While the higher suits for everyone else gives them, many more slots to use allowing mire damage/shield or armor mods.


The heavy suit then gets out paced at the top end for the rest of the time.

Problem is 90% of poeple think they can just stand still or run towards heavys and kill them..... then die and complain. There are plenty of guys out there who just move behind cover throw a grenade run a little and kill the heavy from range unless the heavy has the sense not to chase.

Its all down to player skill a good assault will run circles and hardly ever be in the HMG "sweet spot" damage range and a bad one just stands still and shoots. Same with bad heavys they will stand in the open shooting across the map and wonder why they die to assaults all the time.

It will be a neverending story of complains between AR and Heavies calling a nerf on each other.

Problem is 90% of poeple think they can just stand still or run towards heavys and kill them..... then die and complain. There are plenty of guys out there who just move behind cover throw a grenade run a little and kill the heavy from range unless the heavy has the sense not to chase.

Its all down to player skill a good assault will run circles and hardly ever be in the HMG "sweet spot" damage range and a bad one just stands still and shoots. Same with bad heavys they will stand in the open shooting across the map and wonder why they die to assaults all the time.

It will be a neverending story of complains between AR and Heavies calling a nerf on each other.

Cept the problem is you cant exactly run away from a heavy either. The HMG range is extremly long range and getting distance in poor cover zones is not going to happen.

LOL at heavies think their good at the game when they a need +800HP and a pray spray weapon by definition


HMG has +2000 RPM with 16-17 damage per shot; add that with a Instant hit mechanic system and you got one OP weapon on your hands... Oh I forgot to add that the weapon becomes more accurate the longer you fire.
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BTW this is the definition of a unskilled weapon

If you don't have at least a 5.0 KDR with a heavy then your just bad

LOL at heavies think their good at the game when they a need +800HP and a pray spray weapon by definition


HMG has +2000 RPM with 16-17 damage per shot; add that with a Instant hit mechanic system and you got one OP weapon on your hands... Oh I forgot to add that the weapon becomes more accurate the longer you fire.
^
BTW this is the definition of a unskilled weapon

If you don't have at least a 5.0 KDR with a heavy then your just bad

leave the heavys alone
there soppot to be powerful there heavys . they are soppot to kill assaults easly that there job
there weakness is the snipers get some sniper on your team you crybabys
i am talking to you Mr Zitro your are the worst of them all you just want to be a god

Most heavies don't have that 5 kdr simply because heavies sacrifice a VERY important part of an FPS. Movement.
Movement speed is extremely important.

As for the HMG thing... It's the only thing us heavies have going for us

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You sir are a bad troll

Really last time I checked Heavies could use every weapon THAT I could use... but wait that is all you got, or maybe its the weapon you got, because you suck with every other because that requires some skill

You logic is as broken as the HMG

Really last time I checked Heavies could use every weapon THAT I could use... but wait that is all you got, or maybe its the weapon you got, because you suck with every other because that requires some skill

You logic is as broken as the HMG

Heavies need a buff.

The reason everyone notices the heavies right now is cause we have hit our sweet spots. As the build goes longer all the other suits have a hug advantage and ours stays flat.

We have one weapon choice and the ability to use one damage mod maybe two if you can Max out your CPU. While the higher suits for everyone else gives them, many more slots to use allowing mire damage/shield or armor mods.


The heavy suit then gets out paced at the top end for the rest of the time.

You have 0 kills, 0 deaths, 0.00 kd/r, 0 war points and a 0.00 w/l ratio. Post with your main.

A heavy shotty is plain dumb.

I used to feel the same way, but the more I think about it, the more I feel that a heavy with a Breach shotgun, good aim, and a couple damage mods would actually be pretty damn fearsome, so long as he had a few guys in the squad with nano hives.

I gained a new found respect for the breach, that thing is NASTY. I just wish it was 3 shot, instead of 2.

Heavy machineguns are meant to be powerful, I fired my friend's gattlingun(don't ask, he got it, he said it literally fell out of the sky when he used to live near an military airport) and it cut thru nearly everything we set out as targets, a rusted buike, beer bottles and trees and they got 3rd worlded right before our eyes. so my point being is the guns are meant to eviscerate anything its looking at and the heavies we usually encounter are likely reinforced with friends or are used to using them.

Heavy machineguns are meant to be powerful, I fired my friend's gattlingun(don't ask, he got it, he said it literally fell out of the sky when he used to live near an military airport) and it cut thru nearly everything we set out as targets, a rusted buike, beer bottles and trees and they got 3rd worlded right before our eyes. so my point being is the guns are meant to eviscerate anything its looking at and the heavies we usually encounter are likely reinforced with friends or are used to using them.

tracking a scout suit should be impossible when a heavy is vomiting out ammunition

LOL at heavies think their good at the game when they a need +800HP and a pray spray weapon by definition


HMG has +2000 RPM with 16-17 damage per shot; add that with a Instant hit mechanic system and you got one OP weapon on your hands... Oh I forgot to add that the weapon becomes more accurate the longer you fire.
^
BTW this is the definition of a unskilled weapon

If you don't have at least a 5.0 KDR with a heavy then your just bad

Lol all the heavies want to be stronger? Good troll the only possible change I can understand is the slots changing on the suits. The rest would be nerfs

Hmmm... Ill try it when I get on (weekend ) I'm a bit skeptical though. Without the speed to lessen the gap between you and an enemy, I don't think the shotgun would be all that useful.

Again ill experiment. The LAV with shotty heavy will be extremely good though i think.

Pretty much this, its said in an abrasive way looks kinda trollish but it basically stole the words from my head.

No. To hell with scout suits. If you die to a HMG in a scout suit you should also be insta-gibbed upon respawning, so as to punish you for attempting to take on a heavy+HMG head-on. There should be no room in this game for scout suits to prance around in the middle of a close-range firefight and expect to survive the first few seconds of it.

I have to disagree on this, having been a shotgun scout for a very long time. It's all about abusing your speed and mobility to hop over and around their line of fire, while tearing through their armor in 2-3 shots. If anything, I think shotgun scouts vs HMG Heavies are possibly the most balanced "matchup" there is right now, it feels very dynamic when both players are playing to their classes strengths. Also, HMGs do basically no damage up close to scouts, unless they literally sit still for you.

I don't know about other heavies, but if I actually see a shotgun scout moving past my lethal range and into theirs, I drop to my SMG. It seems much easier to kill them up close that way, for me anyways.

LOL at heavies think their good at the game when they a need +800HP and a pray spray weapon by definition


HMG has +2000 RPM with 16-17 damage per shot; add that with a Instant hit mechanic system and you got one OP weapon on your hands... Oh I forgot to add that the weapon becomes more accurate the longer you fire.
^
BTW this is the definition of a unskilled weapon

If you don't have at least a 5.0 KDR with a heavy then your just bad

Says the guy who complains about Armor tanks, yet rolls nothing but

Hmmm... Ill try it when I get on (weekend ) I'm a bit skeptical though. Without the speed to lessen the gap between you and an enemy, I don't think the shotgun would be all that useful.

Again ill experiment. The LAV with shotty heavy will be extremely good though i think.

Heavies need a buff.

The reason everyone notices the heavies right now is cause we have hit our sweet spots. As the build goes longer all the other suits have a hug advantage and ours stays flat.

We have one weapon choice and the ability to use one damage mod maybe two if you can Max out your CPU. While the higher suits for everyone else gives them, many more slots to use allowing mire damage/shield or armor mods.


The heavy suit then gets out paced at the top end for the rest of the time.

tracking a scout suit should be impossible when a heavy is vomiting out ammunition

Realism and competitive shooters do not work well together...

Actually... Real world tactics and combined arms combat theory apply themselves to DUST stupidly well. So I think the game itself disagrees with you.

Pure, pointless and dumb crap

Actually... Real world tactics and combined arms combat theory apply themselves to DUST stupidly well. So I think the game itself disagrees with you.

+1 this is correct. Heavies have a higher base for suits and HMGs. Then combine that with small maps, ******* aweful spawning mechanics, and iron sights only on AR's with damage nerf and you get this.

90% of deaths are to heavies or nades. so when in Rome

lol i just think the maps are a problem
they promote CQC so heavies are better in these situations
CCP just needs to give us the large RUSH maps we want

SOONtm