No, still low on SP. I'm sitting at around 750k. Got some gun skills like sharp shooter and reload speed to level 2, AR OP to 3 for GEK, then worked on mechanics for armor increase, and now almost got shield control unlocked to boost my shield amount too. I could probably fit 2 3% damage mods on my guy but IDK.. never thought it'd be much of a difference, guess I should at least check it out.

I'm sure at that point the burst would be pretty boss though.

Not with two 3% mods it won't be. The advanced burst with 3 damage mods is, however. The burst AR is unique in that the ROF increases for the enhanced models. I ran an Allotek with 3 damage mods at the end of the last build and it was insane how much damage that thing could put out. Although it left me paper-thin and was too expensive for anything other than lolz.

Long story short the advanced burst with maybe 2 complex damage mods can be pretty beastly if you know you're going to be engaging at the maximum range for an AR. For normal CQC they're kind of crappy, though.

As to the OP the Breach is good at hip firing and the Tactical has a small clip? I guess? I dunno, they're about as useful as the assault HMG.

Agreed, if by "standard" you mean the 60 bullet full auto rifles.

The TAC is useless at any range due to its high recoil, as I see it, its only useful on my "Another Fat Bastard" alt where I use it as a multi purpose gun, mostly because I never run out of ammo with it. Its kind of sad that the AR that is supposed to be best at long range works best in CQC as a low damage large clip sort of gloryfied pistol. They could simply have left it alone except for the ROF, which would have made modded controllers useless.

The Bursts? I dunno, I used them for a while last build, and although you can put out 300+ damage per burst its just not my cup of tea. I have never managed to get consistent results in cqc.

Don't even get me started on the Breach....

And you don't like damage mods? Guess thats simply your way. The only real alternative to using them is to shield tank a character, which I don't really see the point of over-doing. At the end of previous build I ran a proto suit with a Duvolle and 4 proto damage mods. Yes my total HP was only 412, which isn't much for a proto assault suit, but the way I could drop people with it....

In my opinion its just way more fun to play a glass cannon than a tank. Not "smart" or very economical perhaps.You will die easily but if you play well, you can drop a blob of 8 before they even start doing any serious damage on you. Being squishy also ads a thrill to the game cause you know you're voulnerable. If I don't get that adrenaline pumping I get when I am alone against 3-4 people or have poeple engaging me from different angles simultaneously, this becomes an even more bland and boring shooter than it already is. Fun = most important!

The burst AR needs to be a THREE ROUND BURST, LOW DAMAGE, WITH LITTLE TO ZERO RECOIL.

the breach AR has been worthless since post E3. The breach AR needs HIGHER CLIPSIZE, INCREASED RANGE, and an INCREASE IN DAMAGE if CCP for whatever reason decided to keep the stupidly slow RoF.

The Tac AR became the weapon of skilled players after CCP decided to nerf the creodron. Kids cried mod controllers, when they were getting killed by people using damage mods with it. The Tac AR currently needs a reduction in recoil.

BTW CCP bring back the camera for all the AR's your half assed ironsights are still ********.

Because kids like you abused the living hell out of them for as long as you possibly could, and they finally got around to trying to balance them, and now all you can do is make 3-5 threads a week complaining about it?

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How do you abuse an assault rifle? They are almost the only skillful gun to use.
CCP didn't balance them AR's at all. They just made some variants unusable.

You shouldn't have to run damage mods to make a weapon deadly. I've been playing DUST since pre-replication, and have never ran damage mods. I've consistently held a 10+ KDR with multiple 70+ kill games as an infantry player on every build of this game. Damage mods are honestly for sissies that don't have much gun game, and can't strafe to win a gun fight. If i had my way damage mods never would have existed for any weapon in this game, because they destroy any real sense of weapon balance.

The passive bonuses acquired by SP is more than enough to put people down. It's a bit ridiculous that the only AR worth using is the standard variant. All the other AR's are downright terrible, and basically worthless.

The burst AR needs to be a THREE ROUND BURST, LOW DAMAGE, WITH LITTLE TO ZERO RECOIL.

the breach AR has been worthless since post E3. The breach AR needs HIGHER CLIPSIZE, INCREASED RANGE, and an INCREASE IN DAMAGE if CCP for whatever reason decided to keep the stupidly slow RoF.

The Tac AR became the weapon of skilled players after CCP decided to nerf the creodron. Kids cried mod controllers, when they were getting killed by people using damage mods with it. The Tac AR currently needs a reduction in recoil.

BTW CCP bring back the camera for all the AR's your half assed ironsights are still ********.

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