Thats a deer

4 legs and likes to jump around, depending how big it is it may not really damage your car

Seen hit and runs and the car is barely damaged, sometimes a cracked windscreen or a damaged bumper or hood but its not really damage because the car is still fine and works

LAV takes a hit in shields sometimes and slows down but thats it which is fine it doesnt need changing

Since LAVs are 1-hit-kills when they run over infantry, there needs to be some sort of balancing. LAVs should take some damage when they run over infantry. Not a lot; running over infantry should still remain a viable tactic, but LAVs should take enough to keep people from running over 5 players with the same LAV. I think the damage done to the LAV should be based on the mass of the dropsuit, so that hitting scouts do the least damage to the LAV and hitting heavies do the most damage to the LAV.
I also think it should be possible for a heavy to survive an LAV hit with a sliver health left considering that heavies are very well armored, and they are largely designed to handle vehicles.

If you are reading and you're one of those people who is all about "realism", consider that your car can get damaged if you hit a deer. Consider that people hit by cars can survive. Same can apply to scifi armored cars and scifi armored people.

AV grenades usually correct this problem. Its what they're there for.

I would prefer this over the current system of my LAV almost getting destroyed after tapping another vehicle.

But I like driving over and destroying LAVs in my Soma!

I really really hate that. Bump into a friendly HAV, and massive explosion

While joyriders are immensely annoying, getting rid of them is easy enough if you have a decent team. A couple of militia swarms will take care of the problem.

I agree, we are wearing suits of power armor

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Well I don't care for "realism" justification for stuff like this, but if you insist on going that route it'd be relatively easy to imagine any of the suits surviving impact with a LAV. Aside from the shields, aside from the advanced armor, the clones themelves are genetically engineered and cybernetically augmented. They're super-soldiers. They don't quite behave that way in gameplay terms, but in the fiction, I mean, it isn't like they're cloning average jackoffs and using them to house the consciousness of the mercenary characters Dust players represent. It's perfectly reasonable for supersoldiers encased in advanced defensive technology to be a bit hurt but generally fine after being hit by a vehicle.

That said, the important part is that it's crappy gameplay, and the result is people driving around in LAVs with no gunners attempting to get free kills by holding down the forward key. Probably not what one might imagine when envisioning what a Light Assault Vehicle would be used for in Dust.

You actually expanded on my point nicely. people need to have an incentive to use the turrets as the best option for killing and I'm cool with being able to have the passenger shoot a weapon at people as well.

I've thus far managed to not ram blueberry LAVs. They maneuver out of the way too fast.

Yes but then you hit big poppa deer who just stares you down and your car gets ROFL stomped.

I've seen some pretty kittened up cars from hitting deer.

So basically i would love to see the damage done to the lav be based on the dropsuit.

Hit a scout = rofl squish
assualt = some damage not that much
Logi = same as assault
Heavy = you just hit big poppa dear its gonna hurt

Dropsuits are not power armor. They are armor, but only the heavies by lore have the muscular/skeletal enhancements to make them qualify for the word.

The rest of it is just the person under a fancy riot suit.

However, given that your dropsuit has shields and armor that can generally take a shot off a plasma gun I can actually see arguments for your ass getting thrown and living if an LAV hits you.

Not so much if a Sagaris or Soma roll over the top of you.

And I would be cool with having a jeep explode when ramming a fatty. Just because the LAV bumper bugs would scream that it's unfair.

On the subject of LAVs, aside from taking damage from hitting infantry, and reducing collision damage with vehicles, they need to stop doing damn 180 degree turns so easily; that is the most annoying thing about them.

Seems to me a lot of guys already know how to dodge LAV ramming attempts. A well timed sideways jump does the trick. If you catch them by surprise... well, unless you're holding a pea shooter, you would get that kill anyway.

No, pretty sure a free vehicle being able to one-shot anyone it hits is a clear indication that LAVs should be nerfed. But I also did write that their ability to get kills with the gun nobody ever uses (because the bumper is so much more effective) should be buffed. In the end, LAVs shouldn't be free, they shouldn't be able to just insta-gib anyone, but they should also be good enough that people would actually want to spend ISK/SP on them. All-in-all a buff, unless you're not competent enough at multitasking to do anything more than hold down the movement stick and stare in front of you for someone to ram.

EDIT: Another option would just be to increase the speed required for a 1-hit-kill. Its quite easy to run over someone and kill them since not that much speed buildup is needed. its so rare to be hit by an LAV and not die, even if its just a small tap from from an LAV accelerating forward from only 2 meters away. Hitting infantry at low speeds should still do damage, but should not be one-hit-kill.

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That said, I do agree that LAVs should probably take noticeable shield damage from running over people (because the LAV shields are designed to stop stuff with a kinetic energy of a bullet, not that of a 200kg dropsuit at 60km/h). Armor damage... that's up for a debate. I think squished flies on the front bumper.