DUST Search - It's annoying. Open beta is open beta

Beast Beastlington wrote:

Regis Mk V wrote:

Geth Massredux wrote:

I know this is irrelevant. But seriously it's annoying as hell. Open beta is still beta. Everytime I read a new thread or post somebody wants this and that especially expecting something new when its not the final release.
IT'S NOT THE FINAL RELEASE YET.
I say how about you wait and see.
Dust is clearly still in the works.

Just had to say this.

You don't put an open beta out when a game like this is in it's current state. Because Open beta is the last phase before a release and to be honest if we don't get a much better build soon you better believe the new comers will trash this game more than I have. This is why I say Dust should've been a PC game or CCP should've put more care in the FPS side of this game everything feels rushed.

Dust is great on paper sounds like an awesome game but that's about it.

This is absolutely true. I think it's madness to open the beta up when the build is in it's current state. It's not running anywhere near 30fps for starters. It's a bad commercial move for CCP and I think it's going generate a lot of bad publicity.

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Geth Massredux ZionTCD Legacy Rising 62	Posted - 2013.01.15 22:33:00 - [1] - Quote I know this is irrelevant. But seriously it's annoying as hell. Open beta is still beta. Everytime I read a new thread or post somebody wants this and that especially expecting something new when its not the final release. IT'S NOT THE FINAL RELEASE YET. I say how about you wait and see. Dust is clearly still in the works. Just had to say this.
Kovak Therim ZionTCD Legacy Rising 158	Posted - 2013.01.15 22:53:00 - [2] - Quote I know it's still a beta and you know it is, but what about the influx of newbies who think that the open beta = MP demo? I expect many rage posts & topics.
3nder Wigg1n Keepers of the Sacred Cloth 27	Posted - 2013.01.15 22:55:00 - [3] - Quote Geth Massredux wrote: I know this is irrelevant. But seriously it's annoying as hell. Open beta is still beta. Everytime I read a new thread or post somebody wants this and that especially expecting something new when its not the final release. IT'S NOT THE FINAL RELEASE YET. I say how about you wait and see. Dust is clearly still in the works. Just had to say this. Indeed, and CCP has said many times that the game will continue to evolve even years after final release.
Kovak Therim ZionTCD Legacy Rising 158	Posted - 2013.01.15 22:58:00 - [4] - Quote Can a game that continues to evolve and expand ever truly be "finished?" I just hope that new players grasp this. CCP has plans to make the move to the PS4 at some point. They clearly have high hopes for Dust and I hope to remain along for the ride.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1029	Posted - 2013.01.15 23:00:00 - [5] - Quote offiicial go live isn't going to be much more then this. So don't get your hopes up
D'Finn Rhedlyne Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 266	Posted - 2013.01.15 23:08:00 - [6] - Quote Free Beers wrote: offiicial go live isn't going to be much more then this. So don't get your hopes up Agreed. Consider this that Hadron Collider of the gaming world. Many, many years from development to actual doing what it was destined to do.
Geth Massredux ZionTCD Legacy Rising 62	Posted - 2013.01.15 23:40:00 - [7] - Quote Ye after we get a final release the best part is that it's not over. Like all other console shooters, dust will continue
Regis Mk V Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 109	Posted - 2013.01.16 00:27:00 - [8] - Quote Geth Massredux wrote: I know this is irrelevant. But seriously it's annoying as hell. Open beta is still beta. Everytime I read a new thread or post somebody wants this and that especially expecting something new when its not the final release. IT'S NOT THE FINAL RELEASE YET. I say how about you wait and see. Dust is clearly still in the works. Just had to say this. You don't put an open beta out when a game like this is in it's current state. Because Open beta is the last phase before a release and to be honest if we don't get a much better build soon you better believe the new comers will trash this game more than I have. This is why I say Dust should've been a PC game or CCP should've put more care in the FPS side of this game everything feels rushed. Dust is great on paper sounds like an awesome game but that's about it.
Mr Belvedear Gentlemen's Foreign Legion Gentlemen's Agreement 2	Posted - 2013.01.16 00:31:00 - [9] - Quote EVE is still in open beta.
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1899	Posted - 2013.01.16 01:40:00 - [10] - Quote Well...it basically is the release, since they've stated that they don't intend to do any more character wipes, unless something drastic happens.

Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2013.01.16 01:40:00 - [11] - Quote Regis Mk V wrote: Geth Massredux wrote: I know this is irrelevant. But seriously it's annoying as hell. Open beta is still beta. Everytime I read a new thread or post somebody wants this and that especially expecting something new when its not the final release. IT'S NOT THE FINAL RELEASE YET. I say how about you wait and see. Dust is clearly still in the works. Just had to say this. You don't put an open beta out when a game like this is in it's current state. Because Open beta is the last phase before a release and to be honest if we don't get a much better build soon you better believe the new comers will trash this game more than I have. This is why I say Dust should've been a PC game or CCP should've put more care in the FPS side of this game everything feels rushed. Dust is great on paper sounds like an awesome game but that's about it. This is absolutely true. I think it's madness to open the beta up when the build is in it's current state. It's not running anywhere near 30fps for starters. It's a bad commercial move for CCP and I think it's going generate a lot of bad publicity.
EternalRMG ZionTCD Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2013.01.16 02:17:00 - [12] - Quote this is basicaly the release of the game there will never be full game because this game is meant to evolve to have constant changes for exAMple eve online is still in open beta no has ever said " yes today after open beta we can release the game" open beta for this game is = game release why? because its open to everyone and as you know this is the final whipe so if you would release this game in 2 months those new player would have a huge disadvantage so you have to consider open beta as the release
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2013.01.16 02:22:00 - [13] - Quote Beast Beastlington wrote: Regis Mk V wrote: Geth Massredux wrote: I know this is irrelevant. But seriously it's annoying as hell. Open beta is still beta. Everytime I read a new thread or post somebody wants this and that especially expecting something new when its not the final release. IT'S NOT THE FINAL RELEASE YET. I say how about you wait and see. Dust is clearly still in the works. Just had to say this. You don't put an open beta out when a game like this is in it's current state. Because Open beta is the last phase before a release and to be honest if we don't get a much better build soon you better believe the new comers will trash this game more than I have. This is why I say Dust should've been a PC game or CCP should've put more care in the FPS side of this game everything feels rushed. Dust is great on paper sounds like an awesome game but that's about it. This is absolutely true. I think it's madness to open the beta up when the build is in it's current state. It's not running anywhere near 30fps for starters. It's a bad commercial move for CCP and I think it's going generate a lot of bad publicity. cosign
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2013.01.16 02:54:00 - [14] - Quote That's not to mention the absolute panning it got from Eurogamer last year. Nothing has changed since then. I just don't think CCP have a clue what to do with it from a gameplay perspective. They have all this wonderful stat-bollocks attached to a really sub par shooting experience. I just can't see very many people sticking around...and we all know what happens to games that don't generate revenue....
Firestorm Zulu Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2013.01.16 03:21:00 - [15] - Quote Beast Beastlington wrote: That's not to mention the absolute panning it got from Eurogamer last year. Nothing has changed since then. I just don't think CCP have a clue what to do with it from a gameplay perspective. They have all this wonderful stat-bollocks attached to a really sub par shooting experience. I just can't see very many people sticking around...and we all know what happens to games that don't generate revenue.... Bingo
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 673	Posted - 2013.01.16 05:51:00 - [16] - Quote Kovak Therim wrote: I know it's still a beta and you know it is, but what about the influx of newbies who think that the open beta = MP demo? I expect many rage posts & topics. Blame dice/EA for officially tarnishing the beta reputation. Had they not ha e released that pathetic demo with beta label then people may still trust the word 'beta', unfortunately there's no way to convince the new people who pile into the open beta next week that it is just that.....a beta....not a demo.
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2013.01.16 06:24:00 - [17] - Quote If people see something with the game that they don't like, they should be telling CCP and us about it. That's the purpose of this forum. If you want to white knight CCP's game and rush to their honour whenever someone dares to point out a flaw in Dust, the problem is on you. People who say "WELL IT'S BETA" in response to the qualms people raise with Dust are doing far less to help the issue that the people with the qualms themselves.
Michael Cratar Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 179	Posted - 2013.01.16 07:58:00 - [18] - Quote Regis Mk V wrote: You don't put an open beta out when a game like this is in it's current state. Because Open beta is the last phase before a release and to be honest if we don't get a much better build soon you better believe the new comers will trash this game more than I have. This is why I say Dust should've been a PC game or CCP should've put more care in the FPS side of this game everything feels rushed. Dust is great on paper sounds like an awesome game but that's about it. Yup. This game might get trashed to the point where it might not recover if it stays the way it is now. Seriously, they don't have every gun type for each faction yet. Smh.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.16 09:45:00 - [19] - Quote Once we go into open beta im taking a break from the forum while the stupidity stabilizes. I INTEND to write a fairly tongue in cheek merc intro bit using a lot of military gallows humor, but we shall see if my new EVE corp teaching me how to survive and thrive in null and the sheer joy of shooting the crap out of you bastards will distract me from this lofty goal.
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 176	Posted - 2013.01.16 10:04:00 - [20] - Quote I just have this sick feeling that sony will throttle ccp to the point of killing this game and we won't get ha;f of what we have been wanaiting for because of sony not ccp I'm not saying this is mag2 , far from it. But 9/10 of the people on this thread witnessed what sony did with zipper. Thank god that sony doesn't own ccp. But that sick feeling remains because of the ps3 exclusivity invovled I keep my fingers crossed that ccp will be able to liive up to their promises and sony will just sit back and take gheir cut.

Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2013.01.16 10:09:00 - [21] - Quote Zipper was closed because they failed to deliver the goods with SOCOM 4. It was a commercial flop.
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 176	Posted - 2013.01.16 10:24:00 - [22] - Quote Beast Beastlington wrote: Zipper was closed because they failed to deliver the goods with SOCOM 4. It was a commercial flop. You can believe that is the only reason if you want. I however saw huge restraints given to zipper... but as far as game sales go mag sucked hard according to vgcharts.com... I agree Uncharted 2.5 SOCOM of lost duty sucked balls but you saw it happening about 8 months into mag being commercial, sony kept zipper from hotfixing, and put deadlines on when a patch got put out. Zipper was also a horrible dev company, as far as bugs go CCP however is like a bueatiful naked mermaid riding a f***ing leviathan while shooting lightening bolts at its enemies ... in comparison
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 35	Posted - 2013.01.16 10:40:00 - [23] - Quote Kovak Therim wrote: Can a game that continues to evolve and expand ever truly be "finished?" I just hope that new players grasp this. CCP has plans to make the move to the PS4 at some point. They clearly have high hopes for Dust and I hope to remain along for the ride. Something like this needs to be worked into CCP's marketing to make these average shooter players realize they arent needing to buy a new game in 6months to a year, that Dust514 is a living breathing machine !
crazy space 2100046106 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2013.01.16 11:08:00 - [24] - Quote Free Beers wrote: offiicial go live isn't going to be much more then this. So don't get your hopes up No, listen. By release we will have commander mode. We will have the ability to buy installations and place them on the battle field. They were in the menus since launch, It's coming but they cleaned up the UI for Open beta. But it's a core feature, and devs were talking like it was allready go to good. They must be adding polish and game testing to game sure it's working 100%. And I'm glad they aren't rushing and pushed release back from Dec. But I think CCP need to at least tell us what the plan is for open beta. They can just say there will be nothing new. I don't get the point of hiding the plan for whats going to happen at such a critical moment as open beta. Do we have to wait for the day before hand to get some news? Also we will get two more dropsuits types, so that's exciting. What I don't get is why not release some screenshots to tease us? Something must be pushing the deadlines back.
LogiBra IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 20	Posted - 2013.01.16 15:19:00 - [25] - Quote Michael Cratar wrote: Regis Mk V wrote: You don't put an open beta out when a game like this is in it's current state. Because Open beta is the last phase before a release and to be honest if we don't get a much better build soon you better believe the new comers will trash this game more than I have. This is why I say Dust should've been a PC game or CCP should've put more care in the FPS side of this game everything feels rushed. Dust is great on paper sounds like an awesome game but that's about it. Yup. This game might get trashed to the point where it might not recover if it stays the way it is now. Seriously, they don't have every gun type for each faction yet. Smh. Who cares about factions? We just need something else to do besides grind SP then log off...
Geth Massredux ZionTCD Legacy Rising 62	Posted - 2013.01.16 15:58:00 - [26] - Quote LogiBra wrote: Michael Cratar wrote: Regis Mk V wrote: You don't put an open beta out when a game like this is in it's current state. Because Open beta is the last phase before a release and to be honest if we don't get a much better build soon you better believe the new comers will trash this game more than I have. This is why I say Dust should've been a PC game or CCP should've put more care in the FPS side of this game everything feels rushed. Dust is great on paper sounds like an awesome game but that's about it. Yup. This game might get trashed to the point where it might not recover if it stays the way it is now. Seriously, they don't have every gun type for each faction yet. Smh. Who cares about factions? We just need something else to do besides grind SP then log off... I agree. Im not getting anywhere with 75 sp. they should make it to where you grind sp then the skill cap restarts a few hours later.
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2013.01.16 15:58:00 - [27] - Quote Free Beers wrote: offiicial go live isn't going to be much more then this. So don't get your hopes up many of the textures look like mud, I play the game and it looks like mud vision
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2013.01.16 20:33:00 - [28] - Quote There is no material for the open beta to test yet. Most ppl believe that Dust is a sub-par FPS but what saves it is that it's supposed to be an immersive MMO with politics and metagame and elements of territorial control. Those latter parts is what has drawn ppl to the game but guess what. They dont exist. All we have is a handful of small maps and a few **** corps that enjoy deploying into a pub ambush game. CCP have been talking about MMO things with hunderds/thousands of randomly generated maps on different planets to gain control of for years but as of yet there is no sign of any of this. Speaking from a commercial angle, consoles are a highly commercial media. Console players expect finished products on release. This mentality is hugely different from the world of PC gaming where ppl often gravitate to the DIY and indie projects that sometimes undergo long years of evolution after release. When people say things like "hey look: EvE itself is just a beta that has been going for 10 years" I believe this irritates most console players to no end. As a console player I dont understand the concept of a game that's a never-ending beta where no one has any thought of what a finished product is supposed to be. I am not even talking about the idea of charging ppl money for this experience. Summary: the game is not ready for public beta mostly because of a lack of content and not so much because of the current technical bugs. I predict that this 'beta/release' idea will be a disappointment for all involved parties.
VirtualxBucaneer ROGUE SPADES 44	Posted - 2013.01.16 20:36:00 - [29] - Quote Can't wait to see the new wave of kiddies in rage in the forums.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2013.01.16 20:39:00 - [30] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: Beast Beastlington wrote: Zipper was closed because they failed to deliver the goods with SOCOM 4. It was a commercial flop. You can believe that is the only reason if you want. I however saw huge restraints given to zipper... but as far as game sales go mag sucked hard according to vgcharts.com... I agree Uncharted 2.5 SOCOM of lost duty sucked balls but you saw it happening about 8 months into mag being commercial, sony kept zipper from hotfixing, and put deadlines on when a patch got put out. Zipper was also a horrible dev company, as far as bugs go CCP however is like a bueatiful naked mermaid riding a f***ing leviathan while shooting lightening bolts at its enemies ... in comparison Fanboyhood! Charge, the enemy is breaking rank! On a serious note. If Zipper or MAG were so horrible, how come there is still an army of supporters and die hard fans out there even a year after the company kicked the bucket. CCP realizes how many players from MAG it can attract - hence the fanservice with the MAG BPO militia suits.



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