DUST Search - It's annoying. Open beta is open beta

Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:

Ludvig Enraga wrote:

There is no material for the open beta to test yet. Most ppl believe that Dust is a sub-par FPS but what saves it is that it's supposed to be an immersive MMO with politics and metagame and elements of territorial control. Those latter parts is what has drawn ppl to the game but guess what. They dont exist. All we have is a handful of small maps and a few **** corps that enjoy deploying into a pub ambush game. CCP have been talking about MMO things with hunderds/thousands of randomly generated maps on different planets to gain control of for years but as of yet there is no sign of any of this.

Speaking from a commercial angle, consoles are a highly commercial media. Console players expect finished products on release. This mentality is hugely different from the world of PC gaming where ppl often gravitate to the DIY and indie projects that sometimes undergo long years of evolution after release. When people say things like "hey look: EvE itself is just a beta that has been going for 10 years" I believe this irritates most console players to no end. As a console player I dont understand the concept of a game that's a never-ending beta where no one has any thought of what a finished product is supposed to be. I am not even talking about the idea of charging ppl money for this experience.

Summary: the game is not ready for public beta mostly because of a lack of content and not so much because of the current technical bugs. I predict that this 'beta/release' idea will be a disappointment for all involved parties.

Right, right,right!
The PS3 game called Home never says BETA.....er wait!!
It makes MONEY so its still there.

Dust 514 has sold a lot of merc packs so it has made money.
There will be more content to the game so heres a quick question?:
Whats a custom paintjob design dropsuit worth to you?
Custom Merc quarters?

Folks like paying for custom/vanity items in every game.

As far as game content its also under production but please bear in mind that Dust 514 has major advantages over MAG:

Funded by EVE versus MAG that was kneecapped in funding.
Free to play versus MAG that asked for a 60 dollar entry ticket.

DLC/merc packs that folks buy versus MAGs DLC that folks went meh! about!

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Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2013.01.16 20:33:00 - [1] - Quote There is no material for the open beta to test yet. Most ppl believe that Dust is a sub-par FPS but what saves it is that it's supposed to be an immersive MMO with politics and metagame and elements of territorial control. Those latter parts is what has drawn ppl to the game but guess what. They dont exist. All we have is a handful of small maps and a few **** corps that enjoy deploying into a pub ambush game. CCP have been talking about MMO things with hunderds/thousands of randomly generated maps on different planets to gain control of for years but as of yet there is no sign of any of this. Speaking from a commercial angle, consoles are a highly commercial media. Console players expect finished products on release. This mentality is hugely different from the world of PC gaming where ppl often gravitate to the DIY and indie projects that sometimes undergo long years of evolution after release. When people say things like "hey look: EvE itself is just a beta that has been going for 10 years" I believe this irritates most console players to no end. As a console player I dont understand the concept of a game that's a never-ending beta where no one has any thought of what a finished product is supposed to be. I am not even talking about the idea of charging ppl money for this experience. Summary: the game is not ready for public beta mostly because of a lack of content and not so much because of the current technical bugs. I predict that this 'beta/release' idea will be a disappointment for all involved parties.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2013.01.16 20:39:00 - [2] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: Beast Beastlington wrote: Zipper was closed because they failed to deliver the goods with SOCOM 4. It was a commercial flop. You can believe that is the only reason if you want. I however saw huge restraints given to zipper... but as far as game sales go mag sucked hard according to vgcharts.com... I agree Uncharted 2.5 SOCOM of lost duty sucked balls but you saw it happening about 8 months into mag being commercial, sony kept zipper from hotfixing, and put deadlines on when a patch got put out. Zipper was also a horrible dev company, as far as bugs go CCP however is like a bueatiful naked mermaid riding a f***ing leviathan while shooting lightening bolts at its enemies ... in comparison Fanboyhood! Charge, the enemy is breaking rank! On a serious note. If Zipper or MAG were so horrible, how come there is still an army of supporters and die hard fans out there even a year after the company kicked the bucket. CCP realizes how many players from MAG it can attract - hence the fanservice with the MAG BPO militia suits.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2013.01.19 06:19:00 - [3] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: There is no material for the open beta to test yet. Most ppl believe that Dust is a sub-par FPS but what saves it is that it's supposed to be an immersive MMO with politics and metagame and elements of territorial control. Those latter parts is what has drawn ppl to the game but guess what. They dont exist. All we have is a handful of small maps and a few **** corps that enjoy deploying into a pub ambush game. CCP have been talking about MMO things with hunderds/thousands of randomly generated maps on different planets to gain control of for years but as of yet there is no sign of any of this. Speaking from a commercial angle, consoles are a highly commercial media. Console players expect finished products on release. This mentality is hugely different from the world of PC gaming where ppl often gravitate to the DIY and indie projects that sometimes undergo long years of evolution after release. When people say things like "hey look: EvE itself is just a beta that has been going for 10 years" I believe this irritates most console players to no end. As a console player I dont understand the concept of a game that's a never-ending beta where no one has any thought of what a finished product is supposed to be. I am not even talking about the idea of charging ppl money for this experience. Summary: the game is not ready for public beta mostly because of a lack of content and not so much because of the current technical bugs. I predict that this 'beta/release' idea will be a disappointment for all involved parties. Right, right,right! The PS3 game called Home never says BETA.....er wait!! It makes MONEY so its still there. Dust 514 has sold a lot of merc packs so it has made money. There will be more content to the game so heres a quick question?: Whats a custom paintjob design dropsuit worth to you? Custom Merc quarters? Folks like paying for custom/vanity items in every game. As far as game content its also under production but please bear in mind that Dust 514 has major advantages over MAG: Funded by EVE versus MAG that was kneecapped in funding. Free to play versus MAG that asked for a 60 dollar entry ticket. DLC/merc packs that folks buy versus MAGs DLC that folks went meh! about! You misunderstood what I meant when i was talking about charging money for beta experience. I did not mean to say it's impossible; I was saying that it's wrong and unethical. When they charged money for merc pack it was on a promise that this was gonna be eventually put in the player's wallet on game release. If CCP offered Merc pack and said that it's only good for the never ending beta I would have never bought it.\ As far as game funding goes and comparison to MAG - ziper was owned and eventually disbanded by Sony who have in relative terms a bottomless account. How much money was put toward the development is a totally different matter. MAG was knecapped but we have not seen and probably will never see the money figures put toward development of DUST. So this whole comparison is not based in fact because we just dont have the facts.