I get plenty of gun action at range my AR isn't going to kill a close range ******. Thats why you get some 2sec timing explosive nades ^^

I believe last recorded sighting of people standing face to face shooting each other without considering any possible tactical advantage before doing so was World War One.

I believe last recorded sighting of people standing face to face shooting each other without considering any possible tactical advantage before doing so was World War One.

I believe last recorded sighting of people standing face to face shooting each other without considering any possible tactical advantage before doing so was World War One.

All I've been seeing is Nade on Gun action since the new build. Saw a guy with proto everything toss 3 nades before he killed himself tonight.

I mean I honestly LMAO but where has the gun game gone?

"Oh sh!t an enemy!!! *TOSS NADES!!!* YEAH IN YO FACE!"

C'mon...I miss the 1v1 gun on gun. This nade spam is getting a bit old.

IMO, now don't flame me, or say I'm a scrub, it's just an opinion, but militia nades are too strong for being free (with blue print) or too cheap.

It does 400hp, with a max of 2, which if you throw it well enough = to 800 hp for free!

I can't blame people for the nade spam, since it's free. So no hating on the peeps that toss a couple nades before actually firing your gun... just lol.

Gun on Gun action in this beta has been the most boring thing I've ever experienced in any FPS from day one! Of course I know this isn't the OP complaint, but just something I wanted to point out.

As far as the nade spamming goes...meh...haven't noticed it all that much myself. But then, I'm usually constantly on the move, running toward or away from the enemy while trying to strafe at the same time, so maybe I'm just avoiding the nades...don't really know.

I do hope they start working on making the gun action a little more exciting soon. It's been 6 months and IMO the gun game is just as boring today as it was the first time I played. Needs more indication that you're being hit and more notification that you're close to death...something to give you the feeling of urgency. The way it is now (and always has been) I hardly even notice I'm being hit by bullets and then just drop over dead...seemingly out of the blue.

Another thing I think needs improved upon here (and I'm still low level so maybe it's better with higher ranked weapons) is the ARs. Most weapons in the game are highly deadly (even at this level), yet my trusty AR feels like shooting a BB gun, it takes so many bullets to kill someone. I don't have nearly as difficult a time killing my enemies with other weapons but it takes some fancy footwork to stay alive long enough to land enough AR bullets to kill my enemies in a 1 on 1.

I have to wonder are you looking at your whole screen when you play or just the center or perhaps are you even looking at your screen at all?

earlier than that try BEFORE the american revolutionary war
because in WW1 they had trenches

All I've been seeing is Nade on Gun action since the new build. Saw a guy with proto everything toss 3 nades before he killed himself tonight.

I mean I honestly LMAO but where has the gun game gone?

"Oh sh!t an enemy!!! *TOSS NADES!!!* YEAH IN YO FACE!"

C'mon...I miss the 1v1 gun on gun. This nade spam is getting a bit old.

IMO, now don't flame me, or say I'm a scrub, it's just an opinion, but militia nades are too strong for being free (with blue print) or too cheap.

It does 400hp, with a max of 2, which if you throw it well enough = to 800 hp for free!

I can't blame people for the nade spam, since it's free. So no hating on the peeps that toss a couple nades before actually firing your gun... just lol.

Lol. Look at all these losers who get spammed by nades.



Srsly.


You should be happy people are "spamming" nades. Why? Because you can shoot a hole through their armor as they're pulling back to launch it or as they're cooking it.

Lol. Look at all these losers who get spammed by nades.



Srsly.


You should be happy people are "spamming" nades. Why? Because you can shoot a hole through their armor as they're pulling back to launch it or as they're cooking it.

"losers"? Really? Why hef to be mad? It's only a game...

Gun on Gun action in this beta has been the most boring thing I've ever experienced in any FPS from day one! Of course I know this isn't the OP complaint, but just something I wanted to point out.

As far as the nade spamming goes...meh...haven't noticed it all that much myself. But then, I'm usually constantly on the move, running toward or away from the enemy while trying to strafe at the same time, so maybe I'm just avoiding the nades...don't really know.

I do hope they start working on making the gun action a little more exciting soon. It's been 6 months and IMO the gun game is just as boring today as it was the first time I played. Needs more indication that you're being hit and more notification that you're close to death...something to give you the feeling of urgency. The way it is now (and always has been) I hardly even notice I'm being hit by bullets and then just drop over dead...seemingly out of the blue.

Another thing I think needs improved upon here (and I'm still low level so maybe it's better with higher ranked weapons) is the ARs. Most weapons in the game are highly deadly (even at this level), yet my trusty AR feels like shooting a BB gun, it takes so many bullets to kill someone. I don't have nearly as difficult a time killing my enemies with other weapons but it takes some fancy footwork to stay alive long enough to land enough AR bullets to kill my enemies in a 1 on 1.

I bet no one would complain if flux grenades were used more to deplete shields,making for easier gun kills.

...Oh what am I taking about. People would still complain anyway,just like they do for every single thing in this beta.

And I think you will probably need to search a little further back in battle history than WWI to find something like that. Perhaps somewhere around the 18th Century and America's Revolutionary War with England....that's when we first introduced the English to the Guerrilla tactics we learned from the Natives. Before that time battles were expected to maintain a certain level of dignity, order, civility and refinement....No surprises and no unexpected behavior.

earlier than that try BEFORE the american revolutionary war
because in WW1 they had trenches

Nova, I'm right there with you about all the information the UI gives to you about both you and your target's status. In a lot of situations, however, it comes a little late to do much good.

At the risk of being a bit off topic...

I truly suck so I started recording my battles to see how I could get better. I found out that the visual ques for damage and status come significantly later than the damage actually happens. I believe this leads to the often mentioned "All things being equal, the guy that gets in the first shot wins" phenomenon. The OP might actually been reacting to some variation of "By the time I knew I was getting shot I was dead".

On a side note, with shields, armour, actual skill differences, weapon damage, yada, yada all things are never equal but the UI (for everyone I suspect) does report things a bit too long after the fact.