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Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.12.24 04:12:00 -
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Tony Calif and I tried to set up a corp battle between PFBHz and Seraphim with the intent on testing orbitals but due to TZ conflicts we couldn't get it done.
I decided to get a few ROFL pilots on SiSi along with a mixed group of our mercs and we set up a small contract or two just to see the orbitals in action from both sides.
Kane Spero from Imperfects tagged along as did Daniel Jackson of Planet Watchers. Newly manufactured Tactical ammo was passed out to the capsuleers and we proceeded to enjoy the fireworks from orbit and the destruction below.
**Many Bolas died for this intel
We tested all three ammo types: Tactical EMP S, Tactical Hybrid S, Tactical Laser S
Visuals -
EvE side - There wasn't much to see. No animations from turrets from a 3rd party perspective and no fire in the sky as the strike was underway. You can see the conflict below in the form of small explosions on the field and when the strike hit there was a noticeable large explosion within the district on the planet surface.
Dust 514 side - Much larger radius than the MCC precision and the different types of ammunition have notably different effects on the surface.
 EM - Large shower of rounds over a huge area producing what looks like electricity filled bubbles everywhere.
Hybrid - Very similar to the current MCC precision but over a much larger area
Laser - Smaller AOE with big red/orange lazor beams
Damage results-
Without a doubt, all orbital strike variants were much more powerful. EM was noticeably weaker than Laser or Hybrid but did shred all shields in proximity and still very deadly to troops.
Both Laser and Hybrid decimated everything with laser being a bit more concentrated over smaller area. Tanks and LAV's go pop and troops are incinerated. After a few tanks went pop we moved on to CRU's. Numeric results from EvE side battle logs below:
Edited to update with more combat logs. Thanks Daniel !!!!!!
Laser -
(combat) 26747 to Clone Reanimation Unit (Clone Reanimation Unit ) - Gatling Pulse Laser II
(combat) 401 to Laz Ulian Sol [PFBZ] ('Raven' Assault Type-I)- Gatling Pulse Laser II
(combat) 189 to Baloch - Impact [PFBZ] (Baloch - Impact)- Gatling Pulse Laser II
(combat) 1040 to Onikuma - Impact [PFBZ] (Onikuma - Impact)- Gatling Pulse Laser II
(combat) 373 to Onikuma - Impact [PFBZ] (Onikuma - Impact)- Gatling Pulse Laser II
(combat) 117 to RolyatDerTeufel [D3LR] ('Valor' Scout Type-I)- Gatling Pulse Laser II
(combat) 313 to Baloch - Impact [PFBZ] (Baloch - Impact)- Gatling Pulse Laser II
(combat) 663 to Baloch - Impact [PFBZ] (Baloch - Impact)- Gatling Pulse Laser II
(combat) 21780 to Clone Reanimation Unit (Clone Reanimation Unit )- Gatling Pulse Laser II
(combat) 253 to 'Valor' Scout Type-I ('Valor' Scout Type-I)- Gatling Pulse Laser II
(combat) 11967 to Gunnlogi [PFBZ] (Gunnlogi)- Gatling Pulse Laser II
(combat) 226 to Luke Vetri [D3LR] ('Skinweave' Scout)- Gatling Pulse Laser II
(combat) 21184 to Clone Reanimation Unit (Clone Reanimation Unit )- Small Focused Pulse Laser II
Hybrid -
Combat 12066 to Gunnlogi [PFBZ] (Gunnlogi) - 150mm Railgun II
Combat 253 to 'Valor' Scout Type-I ('Valor' Scout Type-I) - 150mm Railgun II
Combat 231 to RolyatDerTeufel [D3LR] ('Dragonfly' Scout [nSv]) - Light Neutron Blaster II
Combat 231 to Charybdis [D3LR] (Charybdis) - Light Neutron Blaster II
EM -
(combat) 114 to Luke Vetri [D3LR] ('Skinweave' Scout) - 280mm Howitzer Artillery I
(combat) 5025 to Clone Reanimation Unit (Clone Reanimation Unit ) - 280mm Howitzer Artillery I
(combat) 141 to RolyatDerTeufel [D3LR] ('Valor' Scout Type-I) - 280mm Howitzer Artillery I
(combat) 631 to Onikuma - Impact [PFBZ] (Onikuma - Impact) - 280mm Howitzer Artillery I
(combat) 398 to Onikuma - Impact [D3LR] (Onikuma - Impact) - 280mm Howitzer Artillery I
(combat) 200 to Laz Ulian Sol [PFBZ] ('Raven' Assault Type-I) - 280mm Howitzer Artillery I
(combat) 546 to Large Blaster Installation (Large Blaster Installation) - 280mm Howitzer Artillery I
(combat) 141 to RolyatDerTeufel [D3LR] ('Valor' Scout Type-I) - 280mm Howitzer Artillery I
(combat) 10220 to Gunnlogi [PFBZ] (Gunnlogi) - 280mm Howitzer Artillery I
(combat) 114 to Luke Vetri [D3LR] ('Skinweave' Scout) - 280mm Howitzer Artillery I
There was no latency with the timing of the strikes. They rain down just as fast as the MCC Precision Strikes.
Can't wait to see these used in battles and there is some serious escalation potential in space for the capsuleers. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.12.24 04:17:00 -
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Thank you for this report. |
EVE-Daniel
Liandri Hel-Jumpers
Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2012.12.24 04:26:00 -
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for as far as visuals go, you need to be connected to the planet in order to see any of the visuals
Lasers: a red beam shooting down to the planet (even if grouped they eventually split up in to each of the turrets that u have when entering closer to the surface) once they hit you can see white explosions
Hybrids: u can see it travel to the surface and they have a more medium size bubble explosion
Projectiles: you can see a bunch of bullets begin shot to the planet and they have HUGE sized blue bubble explosions
as far as latency goes, it seemed like it took a little bit from when the strike request was requested to the time it took for us eve players to see it, like 1 time the guy called in a strike and half a minute later the match for them was over but the strike request just got to us eve players |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.24 04:28:00 -
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NICE report Jaiden +1 |
PAUL BERNARD
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
76
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Posted - 2012.12.24 04:43:00 -
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Grouped weapons are just to make things easier for the servers to deal with massive amounts of players firing at the same time. They are separate but grouped for better server speeds :) |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.12.24 06:29:00 -
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There is a chance of a longer wait with the actual strikes, we had Laz called in one and EVE side wasn't sure if we wanted to test a certain ammo type so one strike did take a bit longer then a War Barge strike.
Overall, was a pain to get it set up right with 24 hour timers and non updated standings etc. from the months old mirror on SiSi.
Finally get it all set up and was a blast. Liked the animations and gives a much more diverse reaction to getting an orbital and not able to control which ammo the pilot has without being in comms with them.. That gives pilots the potential to troll dust players like crazy, haha. Need lazor strike to kill that CRU? LOL, how about EMP? |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
2049
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Posted - 2012.12.24 11:17:00 -
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Jaiden Longshot wrote:**Many Bolos died for this intel
They deserved it |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.24 13:15:00 -
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With 12000 damage being applied to Gunlogis we can defo say that a Sagaris would die just as quick
As for ammo types sounds about right and the lazer one does sound awesome to watch tbh |
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GM Vegas
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.24 13:30:00 -
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That is a nice report! Great stuff! |
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Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.12.24 13:30:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:With 12000 damage being applied to Gunlogis we can defo say that a Sagaris would die just as quick
As for ammo types sounds about right and the lazer one does sound awesome to watch tbh
The in-game effect is substantially different and badass as well. |
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Laz Ulian Sol
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
187
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Posted - 2012.12.24 15:14:00 -
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Lol the gunnlogi in the logs cost about 900,000.
It had 10800 shielding and around 1200 armor. I lost three of them to each orbital ammo type. Was good testing but very expensive. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
904
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Posted - 2012.12.24 15:24:00 -
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So. Tanks wont be as OP as all the cryhards said they will be. |
Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
907
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Posted - 2012.12.24 15:38:00 -
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Great post Jaiden. Just wish I had been in faction warfare during the test so I could have fired off some shots from the Moros.
I'll be doing some large batches of all three types of ammo.
Kane Spero EVE-side. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2012.12.24 15:41:00 -
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So, they can only be used in Corp Battles atm? Hmmm... |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.24 16:02:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:So, they can only be used in Corp Battles atm? Hmmm...
would be kinda dumb to have them in hisec pub matches tbh |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1062
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Posted - 2012.12.24 16:14:00 -
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I think EMPs would be better if they shut down vehicles for a little bit. Just imagine dropships falling from the sky. |
Gemini Reynolds
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.24 16:15:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Just imagine dropships falling from the sky.
They already do that well enough on their own though. |
Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
217
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Posted - 2012.12.24 16:23:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:So, they can only be used in Corp Battles atm? Hmmm...
Exactly
The key to setting this up is to pay attention to the system you select for the Corp Battle and which faction you are fighting for, as you will need your EvE pilot to be in that Fac War Militia on SiSi. You also want to be able to relay the location of the battle to the pilot as soon as you set up the contract or accept it. This will give your pilot plenty of time to get in position over the district.
Thanks again to everyone who helped make this happen. It was very cool to see people from different corps / alliances willing to work together for the benefit of testing.
On a side note - The War Points earned by the squad leader during testing....ridiculous |
PAUL BERNARD
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
76
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Posted - 2012.12.24 16:34:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Great post Jaiden. Just wish I had been in faction warfare during the test so I could have fired off some shots from the Moros.
I'll be doing some large batches of all three types of ammo.
Kane Spero EVE-side.
Its very easy to join FW as needed in sisi to do the testing. Only have to worry about your standings with each faction. You can solo join and leave each one as needed |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.24 16:43:00 -
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This is all good news to my ears, can't wait to see it first hand. |
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Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
217
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Posted - 2012.12.24 16:59:00 -
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Updated with the EM damage combat logs.
Thanks Emjay'B!!!! |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2012.12.24 17:37:00 -
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Did u try t1 guns? Would be interesting to see if there is a damage difference.
Also does just one gun fire? Or is it the group? Does differently grouped weapons cause damage difference?
Does turret type matter? 150mm vs 200mm. Autos vs atri or blasters vs rails?
Just future testing ideas.
no love for missles? Boo. |
PAUL BERNARD
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
76
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Posted - 2012.12.24 17:42:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Did u try t1 guns? Would be interesting to see if there is a damage difference.
Also does just one gun fire? Or is it the group? Does differently grouped weapons cause damage difference?
Does turret type matter? 150mm vs 200mm. Autos vs atri or blasters vs rails?
Just future testing ideas.
no love for missles? Boo.
I told them to do this, however, I am not sure it happened.
Heard "yeah next time" a couple times. |
Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
217
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Posted - 2012.12.24 17:45:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Did u try t1 guns? Would be interesting to see if there is a damage difference.
T1 Hybrids used for EM testing and results are in the logs I just added.
Emjay'B or Daniel would have to reply with regard to the grouped vs individual turret difference. My pilot couldn't join FW immediately due to the current SiSi mirror so I was just observing from space while I had boots on the ground.
Would have been nice to see the bombardment animations, 3rd party perspective, from the ships firing the barrage.
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2012.12.24 17:57:00 -
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So do we think the damages would be higher for em if t2 guns were used? You would hope so, but might not be In the coding yet.
Interested to see further tests. real interested with differences in long vs short range guns.
Also wouldn't u think lasers would be doing the em damage? Considering that how it is in eve for the most part. |
Trip X99
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2012.12.24 18:01:00 -
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PAUL BERNARD wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:Did u try t1 guns? Would be interesting to see if there is a damage difference.
Also does just one gun fire? Or is it the group? Does differently grouped weapons cause damage difference?
Does turret type matter? 150mm vs 200mm. Autos vs atri or blasters vs rails?
Just future testing ideas.
no love for missles? Boo. I told them to do this, however, I am not sure it happened. Heard "yeah next time" a couple times.
Used an arty thrasher with t1 guns, put one strike down with grouped weapons, and put a strike down with ungrouped weapons and didn't see much of a change in damage between the two.
tried to put one more strike in before the end of the match with more of an interval between activating weapons, and got to my fourth gun activating before the strike request disappeared in space.
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Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2012.12.24 18:27:00 -
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How many warpoints were required to enable the strikes? |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.24 18:34:00 -
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Telcontar Dunedain wrote:How many warpoints were required to enable the strikes?
same amount as regular WB strikes i think |
h3lenK3ller
Doomheim
13
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Posted - 2012.12.24 18:40:00 -
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Also during this testing, Slap26 and I found out that ramming semi-expensive tanks at full speed... no one will win! |
PAUL BERNARD
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
76
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Posted - 2012.12.24 18:54:00 -
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Trip X99 wrote:PAUL BERNARD wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:Did u try t1 guns? Would be interesting to see if there is a damage difference.
Also does just one gun fire? Or is it the group? Does differently grouped weapons cause damage difference?
Does turret type matter? 150mm vs 200mm. Autos vs atri or blasters vs rails?
Just future testing ideas.
no love for missles? Boo. I told them to do this, however, I am not sure it happened. Heard "yeah next time" a couple times. Used an arty thrasher with t1 guns, put one strike down with grouped weapons, and put a strike down with ungrouped weapons and didn't see much of a change in damage between the two. tried to put one more strike in before the end of the match with more of an interval between activating weapons, and got to my fourth gun activating before the strike request disappeared in space.
yes but firing the same amount of guns, just ungrouped, isnt what we want to know.
Obviously its the same because its the same number of weapons firing |
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