Yeah DC because you're the only person on the entire game that suggested this fix, you really are a fuckwit you know that? I love SI and Sha but you really are a waste of space and don't think before you type.



The AR recoil change is very welcome by me, it was much needed however i do believe that the tac rifles need a slight deduction in recoil. They are meant to be specialist, medium/long range, single shot, high damage AR's. I think they need either a reduction in recoil or a buff to damage because it's very, very difficult to keep the tac point on something now as a single shot alone raises the scope way off target and obviously if it's a moving target you can't kill anything.

I'm all for having a sensible discussion about this but it's not going to happen while idiots keep trolling AR users and AR users keep crying and not posting anything constructive.

A deduction to recoil and magazine size nerf, say 18 in the 24 round guns and 20 in the 30 round guns is one idea I have in my mind. As it stands, the tact shouldn't even be in the game as a laser rifle or a sniper would perform better

Dude did you not read my whole Post? In particular the part where I said I've played COD and love the iron sights there?

Yes the time off modded controller scrubs is over. And now i say something what other people are saying about missile launchers:
Its fine now how it is, no further change needed.
(Starts melting faces with the Viziam Laser rifle on long range where you can do crap about it)

Mission accomplished. again i proofed that as long you moan about something it will get nerfed. And it wasnt just me who complained about this. And no im against a reduction of recoil simply so that your modded controllers are WASTED money. If you want the old TAC AR back then i want my old missile launchers back. Fair deal i would say dont ya agree? And there is no room of discussion about it cause only those people complain now are the players who have modded controllers. A minority on this game. And guess what? Majority>minority that simple. Well i could aswell go on here and moan that my Elm-7 laser rifle now overheats but i dont do that cause i accept the change and its fine with me.

I was not saying what you should believe last I checked when someone has a certain view and they share it they don't assume that everyone shares that view. As I said I have never played a game with good iron sights only ones that suck and ones that suck a little less. I don't care that you have liked an iron sight in another game if I played it I would tell you that they suck.

Mission accomplished. again i proofed that as long you moan about something it will get nerfed. And it wasnt just me who complained about this. And no im against a reduction of recoil simply so that your modded controllers are WASTED money. If you want the old TAC AR back then i want my old missile launchers back. Fair deal i would say dont ya agree? And there is no room of discussion about it cause only those people complain now are the players who have modded controllers. A minority on this game. And guess what? Majority>minority that simple. Well i could aswell go on here and moan that my Elm-7 laser rifle now overheats but i dont do that cause i accept the change and its fine with me.

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I could be wrong i need to check in the skills list but isn't there a skill that reduces the recoil/dispersion of your handheld weapons, does leveling that to 5 improve the recoil of the TAR at all?

There's no skills for recoil. Never has been. The handling proficiency skill improves damage not weapon handling.

Some weapons have recoil reduction as their "Operations" skill. Assault Rifles are one of those weapons.

It's not significant enough to make a difference though, i've got all my AR skills maxed.

tbh Scrambler Rifles which i keep hearing is like a DMR should be the new TAR and TAR should just be removed. No point having 2 single shot high zoom high dmg ARs

First of all whats your point about things getting nerfed? You're saying you're happy that the AR's got nerfed but you're also saying you was just trying to prove that people who ***** get what they want. So what's your point? AR's needed nerfing or that CCP only listen to people that moan?...

It don't matter if you personally are against a reduction in recoil for TAC's as its not your decision and you don't use them, you use laser rifles, you sound like you're only against it because it gives you an advantage not because you want to balance things correctly. The fact is that as i said, AR did need adjusting and all I'm saying now is that the TAC has been hit too hard and it's unusable, that's more than a balance issue isn't it?...

I can't comment on missile launchers because i didn't use them before or after the changes so it wouldn't be right for me to talk about something i know little about, maybe you could learn from that lesson eh?...

Why do you think that only people use the TAC use modded pads? I was taking a break for a long time while people realised it was possible to abuse the TAC with modded pads and now i'm back i'm using the TAC again without a modded pad because i didn't even realise it was possible till recently, are you that dense that you can't see people using a TAC without using a modded pad? Are you that closed minded? Funny that someone who's apparently a PR guy for a well known corp is so closed minded and such an idiot, maybe you was chose for the job because of how stupid you are? Maybe the plan was to use you just to get fights?

Now if you want to have an actual discussion, like an adult, using facts and figures and not opinions and hear say then you're welcome to, other wise shut up trying to talk about something you've no idea what it is.

I don't even think the Tac rifle should be in the game. Hybrid blasters (what the AR is) are high dps close range weapons, and having a long range version of that is a little odd.

lets just ask CCP nicely for a Caldari infantry rifle that is slower firing than the Gallente version but a better headshot bonus (around 1.75 instead of 1.5 is what i'd prefer) and a longer range.

I want to see more skills with more trade offs instead of what the AR skill set has been for a while - do everything without any weaknesses.

Is the general consensus that the current tact rifle should be removed from the game in favor of a newer weapon type?

Tac Rifle is still fine at short/mid range hip firing. Recoil is good enough to kill the modded controller use i think but still allows to be deadly if you can control your aim.

On the other hand, recoil is crazy through ADS. Making its use at long range pretty painfull. Wich is odd for a long range AR.

I think it's been fixed in the wrong way. RoF should have been cut by half to prevent abuse and make it pretty tricky at short range, and recoil only slightly bigger than any other AR.

I love modded control loser tears!



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Sounds like something got messed up in the code, or something. I mean, I play enough high-recoil shooters that it doesn't really bother me, but I guess I'm in the minority on that one.

I'm not a modded controller user jack@$$. Says that several times throughout the thread *faceplam*

Man where do these people come from.

It's just pubbies thinking they good trolls when really they just copy some of the better ones and hope for the same reaction. Just report his posts as flame baiting/trolling and get him banned from posting. Works for me.

I think the KB/M is in fact easier to use than pad based on the feedback i've had from several people. I think reduced recoil, reduced ammo capacity, cut ROF by 50% and buff DPS by 25% would fix it fine.

Keeps it as a LR, skilled weapon for AR users, stops modded pads from working , makes it useless up close but allows people to still get kills with it so long as they are clever and pick their fights which is what the weapon is all about.