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Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.17 11:11:00 - [31] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Quote: - Reduced the damage gap between Standard, Advanced, and Prototype tiers of all handheld weapons Not opposed to this. As a Tactical Assault Rifle user I pulled a lot of stupid **** that I honestly shouldn't have survived just because I was using an Advanced variant. You don't notice the damage difference until you tie in skills like Weaponry and Assault Rifle Operation. Then that 67.5 damage looks something like 84.4 for every bullet. Exactly. Agreed. And the first time that Laurent was in battle versus me I had a prototype AR and he had a militia AR and one second later and Laurent was off to respawn heaven AKA deadsville. Stop dreaming while awake dude. Can't remember you killing me even once.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2012.12.17 11:11:00 - [32] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: [quote=Laurent Cazaderon]So, like all of you i red the patchnotes this morning with unconcealed joy. And boy was i disappointed.... I'll stop you right now, i knew this build was about fixing the game more than adding stuff to it but even on that matter, i just dont see much going on. For the record, the PERFORMANCE section has.... one line. Makes sense for a technical fix oriented build.... => No reference to lag - Improved projectile behavior in networks with high latency. For your information. Most dropship/tank/LAV missile weapons are projectile based...... LAG being caused by projectiles from vehicles is now better or its fixed. Fixed. Way to speculate. How does fixing the lag of the few projectile weapon fixes the lag in the rest of the game ? How about you PLAY the new build then come back and post about it??
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2012.12.17 11:14:00 - [33] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Quote: - Reduced the damage gap between Standard, Advanced, and Prototype tiers of all handheld weapons Not opposed to this. As a Tactical Assault Rifle user I pulled a lot of stupid **** that I honestly shouldn't have survived just because I was using an Advanced variant. You don't notice the damage difference until you tie in skills like Weaponry and Assault Rifle Operation. Then that 67.5 damage looks something like 84.4 for every bullet. Exactly. Agreed. And the first time that Laurent was in battle versus me I had a prototype AR and he had a militia AR and one second later and Laurent was off to respawn heaven AKA deadsville. Stop dreaming while awake dude. Can't remember you killing me even once. Replication build. You were trying to hide beside a large blaster turret with your team on attack and mine on defense. You died. So?? Everybody dies sooner or later.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.17 11:17:00 - [34] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Replication build. You were trying to hide beside a large blaster turret with your team on attack and mine on defense. You died. So?? Everybody dies sooner or later. Whoah that's old. And was just teasing :D Do we even play together these days ? i dont remember seeing your name in a while.
Musta Tornius BetaMax. 265	Posted - 2012.12.17 11:20:00 - [35] - Quote Where are the obviously not working laser rifle skill fixes? I thought it might have been sorted :(
Bane Nrahk Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2012.12.17 11:22:00 - [36] - Quote French wine all ways. CCP do good and have chesse I give you
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2012.12.17 11:29:00 - [37] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Replication build. You were trying to hide beside a large blaster turret with your team on attack and mine on defense. You died. So?? Everybody dies sooner or later. Whoah that's old. And was just teasing :D Do we even play together these days ? i dont remember seeing your name in a while. Same here just teasing you on the militia ars versus proto since proto kills me all the time when I use militia fits. Give me a yell when you are on to play a match or two in a squad.
D'Finn Rhedlyne Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 266	Posted - 2012.12.17 11:36:00 - [38] - Quote I kinda agree with Laurent, mildly disappointed BUT as has been stated wait until we are testing it out before starting to get all negative about the patches. For all we know, there could be a huge improvement in the smoothness of the game because of the fixing of the smaller problems. Jus' sayin'
SILENTSAM 69 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 421	Posted - 2012.12.17 11:38:00 - [39] - Quote Did we read te same patch notes? Some of those things were addressed, but in different words. By moving things to C++ I think they will improve the wait when loading contacts and such. Also they mentioned reducing instances of hang. This is probably a lot of the little issues we all want fixed.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 219	Posted - 2012.12.17 11:43:00 - [40] - Quote They still haven't added war points for rehacking!? Or hacking vehicles? That is disappointing. And no mention of fixing stacking penalties on damage mods.

Re-FLeX Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 152	Posted - 2012.12.17 12:49:00 - [41] - Quote Just jump onto the bandwagon and buy an SSD already.... most of these issues you're talking about cant be resolved this way.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.12.17 13:01:00 - [42] - Quote Obv didnt read the UI part or even half of the patch notes tbh
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2012.12.17 13:05:00 - [43] - Quote I see a failure to read on the OP's part.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.12.17 14:05:00 - [44] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: So, like all of you i red the patchnotes this morning with unconcealed joy. And boy was i disappointed.... I'll stop you right now, i knew this build was about fixing the game more than adding stuff to it but even on that matter, i just dont see much going on. For the record, the PERFORMANCE section has.... one line. Makes sense for a technical fix oriented build.... => No reference to lag => No reference to micro-freeze => No reference to any enhancement in infantry physic model (wall of glass, collision, etc...) => No reference to timeout error => No reference to hard freeze when battle starts => No reference to long long loading time of contact list (unless the "- Optimized non-battle related networking connections" is about that) => No reference to fixing lasers (lack of over-heat on advanced, proto ; range evolution through sharpshooter) => No reference to spawning mechanics enhancement Yet, we get stuff such as : Quote: - Added HMG 'Doom mode'- a new gun camera firing position - Lowered HMG zoom FOV from 65 to 60 degrees - Increased HMG zoom speed by 0.2 seconds - Reduced Burst HMG fire interval => How in hell is that usefull ? or even remotely needed at this time ? What about breach AR then ? And SMG ? getting just a decrease in recoil ? What about range ? Guess it's all about heavies love... also : Quote: - Reduced the damage gap between Standard, Advanced, and Prototype tiers of all handheld weapons Is that serious ? People already play most of the time with militia shotgun, or AR or anything because the difference isnt that big when using damagers. they're actually reducing the gap even MORE. I dont see how that's a progression in gameplay really.... Imo, it's another way to catter, once more, to crybabies. Soon, there'll be no difference between any tier of module\weapon except for their PG\CPU consumption..... And it seems like a very weird decision to make in a build supposed to be fixing things.. I'm not very confident for this coming build... I'll wait and see till i get to actually play it.. But i have a very bad vibe about it. Yet, kudos on fixing the grenade animation, and improving swarm launchers. Even though, it wont be enough imo. I feel pretty underwhelmed too, I am hoping they aren't posting everything they did, but I guess we will have to wait and see. Not to be a whiner. But I was kind of expecting more, at least new maps and guns. We waited how many weeks for this? How long is it going to take them to add the pilot and crusader dropsuits? How long for racial variants for each and every dropsuit? At this pace, it will be 2014 before we are out of closed beta... Lol
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 320	Posted - 2012.12.17 14:16:00 - [45] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Yagihige wrote: What i'm disappointed most with is there apparently isn't that much new content yet. I know the new weapons are coming but i see no mention of maps or even if the 5 objective skirmish maps are fixed and back. Also, no progression on the interaction with EVE yet. There are new maps Heavies didn't get love just because HMG got useless buffs. We really really needed our proto suits to be more affordable so we can compete against players like the imperfects who don't have a single heavy in there ranks for a reason. This build - huge disappointment. But maybe the new maps will be cool >_> I lold...really though.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.17 14:24:00 - [46] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: So, like all of you i red the patchnotes this morning with unconcealed joy. And boy was i disappointed.... I'll stop you right now, i knew this build was about fixing the game more than adding stuff to it but even on that matter, i just dont see much going on. For the record, the PERFORMANCE section has.... one line. Makes sense for a technical fix oriented build.... => No reference to lag => No reference to micro-freeze => No reference to any enhancement in infantry physic model (wall of glass, collision, etc...) => No reference to timeout error => No reference to hard freeze when battle starts => No reference to long long loading time of contact list (unless the "- Optimized non-battle related networking connections" is about that) => No reference to fixing lasers (lack of over-heat on advanced, proto ; range evolution through sharpshooter) => No reference to spawning mechanics enhancement Yet, we get stuff such as : Quote: - Added HMG 'Doom mode'- a new gun camera firing position - Lowered HMG zoom FOV from 65 to 60 degrees - Increased HMG zoom speed by 0.2 seconds - Reduced Burst HMG fire interval => How in hell is that usefull ? or even remotely needed at this time ? What about breach AR then ? And SMG ? getting just a decrease in recoil ? What about range ? Guess it's all about heavies love... also : Quote: - Reduced the damage gap between Standard, Advanced, and Prototype tiers of all handheld weapons Is that serious ? People already play most of the time with militia shotgun, or AR or anything because the difference isnt that big when using damagers. they're actually reducing the gap even MORE. I dont see how that's a progression in gameplay really.... Imo, it's another way to catter, once more, to crybabies. Soon, there'll be no difference between any tier of module\weapon except for their PG\CPU consumption..... And it seems like a very weird decision to make in a build supposed to be fixing things.. I'm not very confident for this coming build... I'll wait and see till i get to actually play it.. But i have a very bad vibe about it. Yet, kudos on fixing the grenade animation, and improving swarm launchers. Even though, it wont be enough imo. I feel pretty underwhelmed too, I am hoping they aren't posting everything they did, but I guess we will have to wait and see. Not to be a whiner. But I was kind of expecting more, at least new maps and guns. We waited how many weeks for this? How long is it going to take them to add the pilot and crusader dropsuits? How long for racial variants for each and every dropsuit? At this pace, it will be 2014 before we are out of closed beta... Lol just an fyi but racial suits for every type was never coming at launch
Kiiran-B Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 45	Posted - 2012.12.17 14:29:00 - [47] - Quote Where can I find the notes, Laurent?
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.12.17 16:23:00 - [48] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: So, like all of you i red the patchnotes this morning with unconcealed joy. And boy was i disappointed.... I'll stop you right now, i knew this build was about fixing the game more than adding stuff to it but even on that matter, i just dont see much going on. For the record, the PERFORMANCE section has.... one line. Makes sense for a technical fix oriented build.... => No reference to lag => No reference to micro-freeze => No reference to any enhancement in infantry physic model (wall of glass, collision, etc...) => No reference to timeout error => No reference to hard freeze when battle starts => No reference to long long loading time of contact list (unless the "- Optimized non-battle related networking connections" is about that) => No reference to fixing lasers (lack of over-heat on advanced, proto ; range evolution through sharpshooter) => No reference to spawning mechanics enhancement Yet, we get stuff such as : Quote: - Added HMG 'Doom mode'- a new gun camera firing position - Lowered HMG zoom FOV from 65 to 60 degrees - Increased HMG zoom speed by 0.2 seconds - Reduced Burst HMG fire interval => How in hell is that usefull ? or even remotely needed at this time ? What about breach AR then ? And SMG ? getting just a decrease in recoil ? What about range ? Guess it's all about heavies love... also : Quote: - Reduced the damage gap between Standard, Advanced, and Prototype tiers of all handheld weapons Is that serious ? People already play most of the time with militia shotgun, or AR or anything because the difference isnt that big when using damagers. they're actually reducing the gap even MORE. I dont see how that's a progression in gameplay really.... Imo, it's another way to catter, once more, to crybabies. Soon, there'll be no difference between any tier of module\weapon except for their PG\CPU consumption..... And it seems like a very weird decision to make in a build supposed to be fixing things.. I'm not very confident for this coming build... I'll wait and see till i get to actually play it.. But i have a very bad vibe about it. Yet, kudos on fixing the grenade animation, and improving swarm launchers. Even though, it wont be enough imo. I feel pretty underwhelmed too, I am hoping they aren't posting everything they did, but I guess we will have to wait and see. Not to be a whiner. But I was kind of expecting more, at least new maps and guns. We waited how many weeks for this? How long is it going to take them to add the pilot and crusader dropsuits? How long for racial variants for each and every dropsuit? At this pace, it will be 2014 before we are out of closed beta... Lol just an fyi but racial suits for every type was never coming at launch ... Dafuq. Thats a disgrace considering the massive array of ships EVE has for each ship type... I mean, we are talking about... 7 dropsuit types (heavy, scout, logi, assault, pilot, crusader/squad leader, and commander) times 4 races, times 7 levels of dropsuits (1 militia, + 3 more tiers with 2 per tier) So 196 dropsuits. Seems like a lot yes, but you only need 28 distinct models for each dropsuit. I would be happy if they focused an entire patch on just getting every one of those dropsuits out there. It will br a severe disappointment to me if only Caldari have developed an Assault suit... Bleh. I hope your mistaken Mav, I could have sworn they planned to have all of them in at launch, during some IRC conversation or something.
fahrenheitM Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 212	Posted - 2012.12.17 16:26:00 - [49] - Quote Will they use the same "memory excuse" that Zipper did?
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.12.17 16:27:00 - [50] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: I'm not very confident for this coming build... I'll wait and see till i get to actually play it.. But i have a very bad vibe about it. Yet, kudos on fixing the grenade animation, and improving swarm launchers. Even though, it wont be enough imo. To quote the fanboys;- Its a beta ! Dust 2514

Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.12.17 16:38:00 - [51] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: just an fyi but racial suits for every type was never coming at launch Incorrect. Had an interview with CCP Cmdr_Wang and CCP Pokethulu a while back and they confirmed this and Amarrian/Minmatar vehicles/turrets for 2013. We're at version 0.7 - we've still got three more builds to go before we even think about release.
Lion Redstar ZionTCD Legacy Rising 66	Posted - 2012.12.17 16:42:00 - [52] - Quote I'm with Caz on this. The patchnotes are either incomplete or it's just the way CCP makes their announcements. Too cryptically. We need more details on the Performance. We need more communication from the devs about the real problems that are reported. Except one weekly post about bugs and requests, we don't get any feedback. It's like we are talking to the walls. There are a lot of things that need explained. There are things that we, the beta testes, don't know if are bugs or work as intended. I am gonna wait for the patch to come live but from the patchnotes I don't have high hopes. Also.. what was wrong with the damage gap between weapons? I could understand to make it bigger but c'mon, really? You reduce it? Now why should someone pay twice the price for a weapon and not getting even 20% more dps? Same thing applies to suits, except the slot layout and PG/CPU there is not much difference between the classes to worth the isk. Even 10HP more to shield/armor on each class lvl would make a difference. But who am I to say "buff" when everyone say "nerf", after all I'm just a beta tester.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1031	Posted - 2012.12.17 16:50:00 - [53] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: just an fyi but racial suits for every type was never coming at launch Incorrect. Had an interview with CCP Cmdr_Wang and CCP Pokethulu a while back and they confirmed this and Amarrian/Minmatar vehicles/turrets for 2013. We're at version 0.7 - we've still got three more builds to go before we even think about release. that doesn't mean at go live it mean in the year 2013
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.12.17 16:53:00 - [54] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: just an fyi but racial suits for every type was never coming at launch Incorrect. Had an interview with CCP Cmdr_Wang and CCP Pokethulu a while back and they confirmed this and Amarrian/Minmatar vehicles/turrets for 2013. We're at version 0.7 - we've still got three more builds to go before we even think about release. that doesn't mean at go live it mean in the year 2013 How long do you honestly think we're going to be in beta dude..?
lordjanuz Norwegian Dust514 Corporation 88	Posted - 2012.12.17 16:57:00 - [55] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Free Beers wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: just an fyi but racial suits for every type was never coming at launch Incorrect. Had an interview with CCP Cmdr_Wang and CCP Pokethulu a while back and they confirmed this and Amarrian/Minmatar vehicles/turrets for 2013. We're at version 0.7 - we've still got three more builds to go before we even think about release. that doesn't mean at go live it mean in the year 2013 How long do you honestly think we're going to be in beta dude..? November 2013.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.12.17 16:59:00 - [56] - Quote lordjanuz wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Free Beers wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: just an fyi but racial suits for every type was never coming at launch Incorrect. Had an interview with CCP Cmdr_Wang and CCP Pokethulu a while back and they confirmed this and Amarrian/Minmatar vehicles/turrets for 2013. We're at version 0.7 - we've still got three more builds to go before we even think about release. that doesn't mean at go live it mean in the year 2013 How long do you honestly think we're going to be in beta dude..? November 2013. And thereby...?
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.12.17 16:59:00 - [57] - Quote Imagine if beta testers are like really employers with pay, and you get the patch notes being delivered to you and you get disappointed. LOL. CCP: Here are the patch notes. Beta Tester: I'm dissapointed. CCP: ???
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.17 17:00:00 - [58] - Quote Why is anyone here concerned about this? For me, I see a change there regarding the trajectories that are meant to address latency issues which cause a huge problem with hit detection. People have consistently reported problems with the UI and I see notes regarding changes to the UI. As for those complaining about lack of content, why are you surprised? CCP and those of us who interacted with them learned that much of the new patch will be about addressing certain issues and that there will be very little in terms of new content.
Nstomper Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0 205	Posted - 2012.12.17 17:03:00 - [59] - Quote i rarely lagg my connection is that beast
lordjanuz Norwegian Dust514 Corporation 88	Posted - 2012.12.17 17:03:00 - [60] - Quote CHROMOSOME PATCH NOTES. Version 0.7 aaa i figured it out, its not the full list, waiting for CHROMOSOME PATCH NOTES. Version 1.0



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