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Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.17 08:56:00 - [1] - Quote So, like all of you i red the patchnotes this morning with unconcealed joy. And boy was i disappointed.... I'll stop you right now, i knew this build was about fixing the game more than adding stuff to it but even on that matter, i just dont see much going on. For the record, the PERFORMANCE section has.... one line. Makes sense for a technical fix oriented build.... => No reference to lag => No reference to micro-freeze => No reference to any enhancement in infantry physic model (wall of glass, collision, etc...) => No reference to timeout error => No reference to hard freeze when battle starts => No reference to long long loading time of contact list (unless the "- Optimized non-battle related networking connections" is about that) => No reference to fixing lasers (lack of over-heat on advanced, proto ; range evolution through sharpshooter) => No reference to spawning mechanics enhancement Yet, we get stuff such as : Quote: - Added HMG 'Doom mode'- a new gun camera firing position - Lowered HMG zoom FOV from 65 to 60 degrees - Increased HMG zoom speed by 0.2 seconds - Reduced Burst HMG fire interval => How in hell is that usefull ? or even remotely needed at this time ? What about breach AR then ? And SMG ? getting just a decrease in recoil ? What about range ? Guess it's all about heavies love... also : Quote: - Reduced the damage gap between Standard, Advanced, and Prototype tiers of all handheld weapons Is that serious ? People already play most of the time with militia shotgun, or AR or anything because the difference isnt that big when using damagers. they're actually reducing the gap even MORE. I dont see how that's a progression in gameplay really.... Imo, it's another way to catter, once more, to crybabies. Soon, there'll be no difference between any tier of module\weapon except for their PG\CPU consumption..... And it seems like a very weird decision to make in a build supposed to be fixing things.. I'm not very confident for this coming build... I'll wait and see till i get to actually play it.. But i have a very bad vibe about it. Yet, kudos on fixing the grenade animation, and improving swarm launchers. Even though, it wont be enough imo.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.17 09:02:00 - [2] - Quote Aotherea wrote: yes, let's whine about a free game that gets free expansions that is in beta, because you know, beta testing is nothing but your WORK and you have to expect everything to be delivered to you like you DEMAND it! ah, beta testers. How are you being any helpful there ? i dont think you red anything. "bla bla free, bla bla cant complain" And tbqh, i think i worked A LOT more than you on this beta and game. Ask around.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.17 09:05:00 - [3] - Quote Aotherea wrote: reading patch notes and then saying "im disappoint" aint helpful either. Except that's not the only thing i'm saying. proof again you red nothing but the title....
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.17 09:24:00 - [4] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: I'll stop you right now. Yeah dude.. I think this is what you should do. You see.. Most of us here already know that we are beta testing the game. Those of you who don-¦t should obviously turn to something else. again someone that didnt read anything of the original post. And obviously, no other post in feedback section Where are you as you seem to be such a damn, good beta-tester when gameplay mecanics are being discussed ? where are your feedback thread ? come on, links please.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.17 10:09:00 - [5] - Quote honestly guys. i never expected 16vs16 or much new stuff in the coming build. The build is supposed to be oriented on the technical aspect of the game. And the lack of informations on that matter inside the patchnotes is what disappoints me. Maybe all of the major bugs and issues are fixed but then, why not mention it ?
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.17 10:13:00 - [6] - Quote Yagihige wrote: What i read was that the new build has 4 "variation" maps. So it doesn't really sounds like new maps. Either way, i miss the big 5 point skirmish maps. When they didn't lag, they were cool. it's probably the variations we had during the previous WE event. Wich is good as they were pretty damn good maps. More action packed as they said.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.17 10:28:00 - [7] - Quote and here i was thinking that the purpose of a beta was for a developper to see expectations from the players in order to enhance their game. Foolish me. Beside, if you had red the post, you would have notice it's not about "me wants more guns" or "me wants more game modes"..
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.17 10:49:00 - [8] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: [quote=Laurent Cazaderon]So, like all of you i red the patchnotes this morning with unconcealed joy. And boy was i disappointed.... I'll stop you right now, i knew this build was about fixing the game more than adding stuff to it but even on that matter, i just dont see much going on. For the record, the PERFORMANCE section has.... one line. Makes sense for a technical fix oriented build.... => No reference to lag - Improved projectile behavior in networks with high latency. For your information. Most weapons arent projectile based...... They're insta hit with random bullet spread. ARs, SR and most bullet weapons for instance. Meaning that they arent any actual bullets being fired..... So this doesnt apply at all....... Also, if lag was just about weapons, it would be a relief.... but it isnt.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.17 11:02:00 - [9] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: [quote=Laurent Cazaderon]So, like all of you i red the patchnotes this morning with unconcealed joy. And boy was i disappointed.... I'll stop you right now, i knew this build was about fixing the game more than adding stuff to it but even on that matter, i just dont see much going on. For the record, the PERFORMANCE section has.... one line. Makes sense for a technical fix oriented build.... => No reference to lag - Improved projectile behavior in networks with high latency. For your information. Most dropship/tank/LAV missile weapons are projectile based...... LAG being caused by projectiles from vehicles is now better or its fixed. Fixed. Way to speculate. How does fixing the lag of the few projectile weapon fixes the lag in the rest of the game ?
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.17 11:11:00 - [10] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Quote: - Reduced the damage gap between Standard, Advanced, and Prototype tiers of all handheld weapons Not opposed to this. As a Tactical Assault Rifle user I pulled a lot of stupid **** that I honestly shouldn't have survived just because I was using an Advanced variant. You don't notice the damage difference until you tie in skills like Weaponry and Assault Rifle Operation. Then that 67.5 damage looks something like 84.4 for every bullet. Exactly. Agreed. And the first time that Laurent was in battle versus me I had a prototype AR and he had a militia AR and one second later and Laurent was off to respawn heaven AKA deadsville. Stop dreaming while awake dude. Can't remember you killing me even once.

Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.17 11:17:00 - [11] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Replication build. You were trying to hide beside a large blaster turret with your team on attack and mine on defense. You died. So?? Everybody dies sooner or later. Whoah that's old. And was just teasing :D Do we even play together these days ? i dont remember seeing your name in a while.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.17 22:31:00 - [12] - Quote Goat of Dover wrote: fenrir storm wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: +1 CCP for fixing issues, instead of adding more issues on top of the ones you have. Yes because in previous builds things they said were fixed worked right People like laurent are posting because they know the track record of previuos builds and there fixes. But again most are to quick to jump to the defence of ccp, it's better to be critical and be wrong than just agree and end up with a crap game. Maybe we waited 2+ months for these fixes to actually work like they are supposed to. As supposed to them saying okay they are fixed. Oh wait no they are not. On notes to laurent with the breach and SMG not getting range these are CQC weapons why do they need an increase in range. Not trolling asking why in a serious manner to see why you wanted it increased. range or general adjustments as those weapon are pretty much useless at the moment. Dont think i got killed by any of those two in 2 month worth of playing. And when i see 5-¦ change in zoom for HMG i can't help mysefl thinking there were higher priorities. Once again, i'm not mad about not having new stuff. In fact i'm not mad at all. I just wonder why this patchnotes isnt more focused on problems solved. Codex had an intro saying many bugs and other problems were fixed in addition to the rest of the patchnotes. Precursor had a detailled troubleshooting section. And as i, like CCP, expect the game to run smoothly before seeing new features, i'm afraid this patchnotes mirrors the fact that some issues arent fixed at all. But as i said. This is statement on the patchnotes, not the build. I'll judge it in time.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.18 09:42:00 - [13] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: the incredible fanboyism astounds me. The man is raising some legitamite questions in list form, not screaming and crying he didint get want he wants. He merely stated he is disappointed, and yet everyone jumps on to bash him... The "Can I haz ur stuffz" crowd is becoming a bandwagon, its the new in vogue thing to act patient... He isnt being stupid or immature. Laurent just looked at the patch notes and made some observations. He even said he will wait to play it before his final judgement of the patch... Gosh, its like a man can't make any critisiscm without being stomped on... Lay off a little bit, everyone, m'kay? Whoah thanks dude ! Luv you.

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